First of all, I'm not trying to force my point of view on anyone.
Ok,but when you say that the other members are ignoring everything you are disrespecting them.
I respect your opinion so i only demand the same kind of treatment.
But Goku's head-start on them this time was enormous, even without Super Saiyan. For the record, I wouldn't expect Goku to make blinding progress training for the Androids either.
That's what keep us apart,i think Goku improved tremendously a lot more than the humans.
I mean that Earth is a colossal step down. It's all well and good that they learned and incorporated stuff into their training, but the tools they have available are more limited.
No, it isn't,i already explained you that they have kaio's style which means weighted clothing and those specials weights that we see Goku using in the Buu saga..That's kaio way of training which is more or less the same as training on a gravity chamber or even better.
If he surpassed the Freeza that it took a Super Saiyan to kill...that'd be even more incredible.
No,i only said that they would need to come above Freeza's supressed power which is in the millions.
Shit, if they'd made as much progress in the time they had like you suggest--in Earth's environment no less--he shouldn't have passed up on 2 years in the Room of Spirit and Time. But I guess he's only allowed to make that sort of progress between arcs?
Shit what?I never said that, i said they progressed a few millions while Piccolo touched the ssj realm hundreds of millions.Base sayans IMo would have 20 or 30 millions( just some random numbers to make you happy).
So their progress is still small when compared to base sayans or Piccolo.
Later,Piccolo fused with kami and all the ssj surpassed Piccolo by far,so shit it doesn't make any sense to compete against such adversity.
What you're telling me is that despite Kaio telling them that training with him on his planet for 158 days is like training on Earth for several thousand years*, they could actually make better progress than that on Earth thanks to what they learned. Please forgive me if I find that to be a bit of a stretch of the imagination. I still think it'd be incredible if they just got themselves into the millions by the Androids' arrival.
He meant that doing regular training on the Earth without his way of training(style) was less effective.Keep in mind that Goku and Piccolo are training in the earth too.
I was thinking about this, and I can't help but think about Goku having trouble flying with 40 tons of weights on him in the Buu saga.
That's an inconsistency Goku should be able to handle those weights easily.
Piccolo and the humans were useless against Nappa and Vegeta,but they still were in the thousands at the time.That's the reason why V -jump gives 75 000 to Krillin in namek.
There is always some kind of proportion in their evolution until ssj.,ie,hundreds of millions and that's the only thing they complain as something unattainable.
But to think of it, we only get to know a very few at the Saiyan saga.
