Dragon Box vol 5 discussion

[SSVegetto]

Just curious, but isn't illegal to post the entire episode online... in frames? Seriously, what is up with all the screen-caps? I would expect people to understand the DBox is a quasi-perfect release, but to cream your pants over every volume?

In any case, looking forward to getting it in two weeks from Amazon. I am a patient man and the free delivery day shipping is always good. Amazon Prime FTW!

That is ironic coming from you. But seriously you are my Japanese DBZ Dragonbox hero! Thanks.

[Fox666]

She's called Eraza in the subtitles, not sure if that was used in the orange bricks.

I would say this shot in particular really shows how aged the film is. Look at Gohan's hair, it's almost become a shade of red. Of course I would say that is preferred to crushed blacks, but this isn' too pleasing either.

Actually the entire image is sort of reddish

I you apply a reverse color filter in Photoshop, this is what you get

[Son_Gohan]

She's called Eraza in the subtitles, not sure if that was used in the orange bricks.

*snip*

And she does look a little more red than everyone else.

Thanks.

I don't want to be a wet blanket, but I have to say this again. The colours on the DBOX footage are quite faded and discolored due to the aging of the master films. They are incorrect and not how they originally looked. This is the fact that Toei confirmed. You have to refer to the colour coordinations or the cels to check the original colours.

Yeah, when looking at an original cel of the scene, the colors look way off:



Is this difference entirely attributed to aging or did Toei actually do some altering to the colors for the Dragon Box release?

[Daimo-Rukiri]

This is from what I remember and what was on my vhs tapes, yea can totally say it's shifted to the read Can still be properly remastered though.


I certainly don't remember the kid under gohan with red hair, it was totally brown!

I don't have time to remaster it right now but this is going in the right direction, totally going to have fun with this when my set arrives Tuesday.

[Metalwario64]

This is from what I remember and what was on my vhs tapes, yea can totally say it's shifted to the read Can still be properly remastered though.

I certainly don't remember the kid under gohan with red hair, it was totally brown!

I don't have time to remaster it right now but this is going in the right direction, totally going to have fun with this when my set arrives Tuesday.

...Now you've made it look like the... what was it? The Arabic release of Dragon Ball? The one with the green haze?

When removing the color casts on the Dragon Box footage, never do it on blacks or else that's what you get. It's best to do it on whites, which gives the effect the filter's intended for, like so:

Color Cast removed


Original

It's a bit subtle, but comparing them side by side shows that it is overall an improvement.

Here's a comparison image I made using "bands" of each image so that you can compare the colors throughout certain portions of the image to see the differences more clearly. Footage is labeled accordingly:

[The Time Traveller]

At the scene where everyone is surprised by Goku turning Super Saiyan during the Anoyoichi Tournament.



Broli, why are you so surprised? You're a Super Saiyan right now!

And hey Tori-bot and two Freeza henchmen.

[Daimo-Rukiri]

This is from what I remember and what was on my vhs tapes, yea can totally say it's shifted to the read Can still be properly remastered though.

I certainly don't remember the kid under gohan with red hair, it was totally brown!

I don't have time to remaster it right now but this is going in the right direction, totally going to have fun with this when my set arrives Tuesday.

...Now you've made it look like the... what was it? The Arabic release of Dragon Ball? The one with the green haze?

When removing the color casts on the Dragon Box footage, never do it on blacks or else that's what you get. It's best to do it on whites, which gives the effect the filter's intended for, like so:

Color Cast removed


Original

It's a bit subtle, but comparing them side by side shows that it is overall an improvement.

Here's a comparison image I made using "bands" of each image so that you can compare the colors throughout certain portions of the image to see the differences more clearly. Footage is labeled accordingly:

I understand, twas a quickie. Plus that was nothing more of a mask that'd be used to correct the colors, and still using the original as a forground. Would be allot easier if I had access to film.

[The Time Traveller]

Found a few more cameos I think...



Another Freeza Henchman, and what looks like Crono from Chrono Trigger and I think some Dragon Quest characters, but I've not played Dragon Quest so I dunno...

And check out the Great Saiyaman wannebe at the top.

[Fox666]

The guy on bottom right looks familiar... I think it's the protagonist from Kajika manga

[The Time Traveller]

Looks more like one of the Dragon Quest characters I reckon. Kajika came out after DB finished.

Also, MORE!



It's Super Saiyan Tori-bot!
A Coola Henchman!
Ackman from Go! Go! Ackman!
And Android 14!

[VegettoEX]

The guy from before that suspiciously looks like Chrono leads me to believe the frog is... uhh... Frog.

[The Time Traveller]

Subtitles call him Furog but that's close enough.

Dragon Ball had a load of strange cameos like the Stay Puft Marshmallow man from Ghost Busters, it's cool seeing so many characters randomly littering the background.

[VegettoEX]

Nah, not the fighter in the tournament, but the frog dude in the audience there.

[The Time Traveller]

Olivue, Torbee, Malaiko and Tapica are in that shot too (pan) so that has to be the same Frog/Furog.

[VegettoEX]

Well, shit. Huh. Gohan's there, too. So I guess I just give up.

[PuppetDoctor]

The guy with the sword with the purple mushroom style haircut looks like a mini version of Trunks. These images from the audience are great.

[jjgp1112]

Dude in the second cap is clearly Gohan if he kept training under Piccolo without any of Goku's influence for a few more years

[The Time Traveller]

The guy with the sword with the purple mushroom style haircut looks like a mini version of Trunks. These images from the audience are great.

I pointed him out, he looks exactly like Ackman from Go! Go! Ackman!

Also, this is me grasping at straws, I FOUND FREEZA! AND HE'S GREEN WITH ENVY?!

[PuppetDoctor]

The guy with the sword with the purple mushroom style haircut looks like a mini version of Trunks. These images from the audience are great.

I pointed him out, he looks exactly like Ackman from Go! Go! Ackman!

Oh, I never read that manga or knew about it so I didn't know you meant it looked like Ackman. They do look alike though.

Green Freeza is a great find.

[laserkid]

I can recognize a few of those people



1. Dragon Quest IV Maya ( http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/rep ... Maya_1.jpg )
2. Dragon Quest II hero ( http://www.dqshrine.com/dq/dq1-2/dq1-2poster.jpg )
3. Crono (dur )
4. Dragon Quest V hero ( http://www.woodus.com/den/gallery/graph ... a/hero.png )
5. Dragon Quest IV Hero (female version) ( http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/dragon ... 4-hero.jpg )