How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?

[VegettoEX]

What we're trying to get at with you is that, before you even registered, you twice agreed to a set of rules that contained things like posting as a friendly, awesome fan and posting things with substance.

So far, what you seem to have been contributing are lashing-out statements, or in this case, just a single word. That's... just not a substantial post. It's not really worth making. We'd love to hear more from you. Did you learn something new? What was brought to the table you never thought about before? Do you have something else to add?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

So... you still believe that Pure Boo is stronger?

Absolutely, nothing there implies that he is weaker.

Then stay in the dark. You should at least admit that there are implications, but saying that there is nothing...

[Bussani]

Well, he said that nothing "there" implies he was weaker. Where's "there"? In the examples Darkprince410 and I gave? In that case, I guess he'd be right. Beyond that, though, I do think there are implications that Evil Buu was stronger. Amuro's probably tired of hearing this one, too, but Goku did say that he and Vegeta would be killed if they tried to fight him. Now, you could assume he was lying, but you could just as easily assume that he wasn't, and I'd still consider it an implication. In addition to that, when Buu reverts to his pure form, Goku says: "We did it! This way, we might be able to manage something." I find it hard to believe that he'd say this if all they'd succeeded in doing was making him smaller and more powerful than he was as Evil Buu.

At the end of the day, however, it all depends on how you interpret these lines. I can't say for sure that one interpretation is right and another is wrong. All I have is an opinion, just like everyone else.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I know that there could be different interpretations of the lines... But I also want good reasons on how one will interpret those lines. Saying that there is nothing in the manga that implies Pure Boo < Evil Boo is walking in the dark on purpose.

[Amuro Ray]

What we're trying to get at with you is that, before you even registered, you twice agreed to a set of rules that contained things like posting as a friendly, awesome fan and posting things with substance.

So far, what you seem to have been contributing are lashing-out statements, or in this case, just a single word. That's... just not a substantial post. It's not really worth making. We'd love to hear more from you. Did you learn something new? What was brought to the table you never thought about before? Do you have something else to add?

Is this normal for you to micromanage every post your members make? I'm sorry that I'm pressed for time and made a very simple remark, would you rather me have stated, "Yes, I agree with this answer?" I feel like you (and the other moderators) have been watching my every post since I've been here, this is certainly not the type of forum environment I'm used to, so maybe I'm not a good fit here.

No need to ban me, I'll take my own leave and allow someone else to answer the remaining questions.

[dbzfan7]

So... you still believe that Pure Boo is stronger?

Absolutely, nothing there implies that he is weaker.

Then stay in the dark. You should at least admit that there are implications, but saying that there is nothing...

Pretty much. I support Gohan>>SSJ3 Gotenks=<>Super Boo>>>>SSJ3 Goku>Kid Boo, but I can admit there is a few things going for Kid Boo, but most of the info and blatant statements say otherwise.

[VegettoEX]

No-one's talking about banning you yet. Sure, I mentioned strikes against accounts, but if everyone just chills and enjoys the company and conversation with their fellow fans, there's no reason why that even has to come up again.

And yes, it's... I wouldn't say "common", but I'd say "normal"... for the moderation team to jump into a conversation when tempers flare up and people aren't being totally awesome to each other. We take pride it being just that: awesome to each other. We want everyone to have a great time, read incredibly engaging posts, have great conversations with each other, and take something new home at the end of the day that they hadn't thought of before.

Normally, that just happens 'cuz everyone wants that and we don't need to do anything else to encourage it other than just BEING here...!

[Duo]

Is this normal for you to micromanage every post your members make? I'm sorry that I'm pressed for time and made a very simple remark, would you rather me have stated, "Yes, I agree with this answer?" I feel like you (and the other moderators) have been watching my every post since I've been here, this is certainly not the type of forum environment I'm used to, so maybe I'm not a good fit here.

No need to ban me, I'll take my own leave and allow someone else to answer the remaining questions.

I think you're feeling much too antagonized. Do you really expect one to believe you've never been on a message board where one word posts are discouraged?

I'm also still a little stuck on how you think there's /nothing/ that implies Chibi Buu is weaker. Darkprince and others really laid out some thoughtful responses for you - why not dig into them (when you have the time) and really show why those points are invalid?

[Hitiro]

Pretty much. I support Gohan>>SSJ3 Gotenks=<>Super Boo>>>>SSJ3 Goku>Kid Boo, but I can admit there is a few things going for Kid Boo, but most of the info and blatant statements say otherwise.

I'd have it pretty much the same as you except a little change. Gohan>>Evil Boo>SSJ3Gotenks>>>SSJ3 Goku>Pure Boo. The reason? Evil Boo only mentions Gohan being stronger than him.

Chapter: 498 (DBZ 304), P2.3-4
Boo: “Far, far, waa~~aay far away, I felt a strong power…I won’t allow anyone to have a power stronger than mine…”

Maybe I'm just being too narrow in my view when he says this. But it seems to me Gotenks had the upper hand due to his techniques, not due to how much power he had. Kind of like how Tienshinhan was only holding Semi-Perfect Cell back because of his Kikoho technique. Plus Evil Boo probably sensed his power growing when he got out of the RoSaT. So he purposely didn't beat SSJ3 Gotenks as he was going to absorb him when Gohan arrived so he could beat him.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Evil Boo only mentions Gohan being stronger than him.

Which conflicts with Piccolo's statement, who said that Gotenks was stronger, or at least equal. Maybe Boo was annoyed by Gohan because Gohan was way more powerful than him, while Gotenks was about equal (or slightly stronger).

[Duo]

I don't believe Buu felt that Gotenks could pose a threat to his life, especially given how durable Buu is.

[dbzfan7]

Pretty much. I support Gohan>>SSJ3 Gotenks=<>Super Boo>>>>SSJ3 Goku>Kid Boo, but I can admit there is a few things going for Kid Boo, but most of the info and blatant statements say otherwise.

I'd have it pretty much the same as you except a little change. Gohan>>Evil Boo>SSJ3Gotenks>>>SSJ3 Goku>Pure Boo. The reason? Evil Boo only mentions Gohan being stronger than him.

Chapter: 498 (DBZ 304), P2.3-4
Boo: “Far, far, waa~~aay far away, I felt a strong power…I won’t allow anyone to have a power stronger than mine…”

Maybe I'm just being too narrow in my view when he says this. But it seems to me Gotenks had the upper hand due to his techniques, not due to how much power he had. Kind of like how Tenshinhan was only holding Semi-Perfect Cell back because of his Kikoho technique. Plus Evil Boo probably sensed his power growing when he got out of the RoSaT. So he purposely didn't beat SSJ3 Gotenks as he was going to absorb him when Gohan arrived so he could beat him.

I wrote in my equation that Super Boo is possibly above Gotenks. I think I have him under Gotenks power wise, but Gotenks for the most part can't kill Super Boo as his regeneration is too great and their powers are too close. This means Super Boo can outlast Gotenks and kill the boys which makes Gotenks not a massive threat to him like Gohan was.

[dbzfan7]

Pretty much. I support Gohan>>SSJ3 Gotenks=<>Super Boo>>>>SSJ3 Goku>Kid Boo, but I can admit there is a few things going for Kid Boo, but most of the info and blatant statements say otherwise.

I'd have it pretty much the same as you except a little change. Gohan>>Evil Boo>SSJ3Gotenks>>>SSJ3 Goku>Pure Boo. The reason? Evil Boo only mentions Gohan being stronger than him.

Chapter: 498 (DBZ 304), P2.3-4
Boo: “Far, far, waa~~aay far away, I felt a strong power…I won’t allow anyone to have a power stronger than mine…”

Maybe I'm just being too narrow in my view when he says this. But it seems to me Gotenks had the upper hand due to his techniques, not due to how much power he had. Kind of like how Tenshinhan was only holding Semi-Perfect Cell back because of his Kikoho technique. Plus Evil Boo probably sensed his power growing when he got out of the RoSaT. So he purposely didn't beat SSJ3 Gotenks as he was going to absorb him when Gohan arrived so he could beat him.

I wrote in my equation that Super Boo is possibly above Gotenks. I think I have him under Gotenks power wise, but Gotenks for the most part can't kill Super Boo as his regeneration is too great and their powers are too close. This means Super Boo can outlast Gotenks and kill the boys which makes Gotenks not a massive threat to him like Gohan was.

[Saiga]

The way I see it, is that while Gotenks is stronger than Boo, they're on the same level. Gohan however, is on a completely different level than both and so the difference between Gotenks and Boo doesn't compare.

[Godo]

I see it as Gotenks being slightly stronger than Super Buu, to the extent that his power is high enough to defeat him with a little effort.
The only thing that stops him doing so, is Buu's regeneration.

I believe the same with SSJ3 Goku vs. Kid Buu. In this case their power is much more even, and Goku can't defeat him due to regeneration and also due to constant loss of power.

Gohan, on the other hand, outclasses them all. To compare his power, one would put him between Super Buu and his higher forms rather than in Gotenks and Goku's league.

[Hitiro]

I've always believed Gotenks is weaker than Evil Boo, its just his techniques are powerful enough to make that difference vanish. We've seen instances where weaker characters have had the upperhand due to more powerful techniques. Piccolo's Makankosappo against Raditz. Tienshinhan's Shin Kikoho against Semi-Perfect Cell. And even Vegeta's Final Flash against Perfect Cell.

[Duo]

What's most important, really, is that Ssj3 Gotenks and Buu were fighting at around the same level. We'll never know more specifically than that, and that's ok, isn't it?

[Amuro Ray]

Well, he said that nothing "there" implies he was weaker. Where's "there"? In the examples Darkprince410 and I gave? In that case, I guess he'd be right. Beyond that, though, I do think there are implications that Evil Buu was stronger. Amuro's probably tired of hearing this one, too, but Goku did say that he and Vegeta would be killed if they tried to fight him. Now, you could assume he was lying, but you could just as easily assume that he wasn't, and I'd still consider it an implication. In addition to that, when Buu reverts to his pure form, Goku says: "We did it! This way, we might be able to manage something." I find it hard to believe that he'd say this if all they'd succeeded in doing was making him smaller and more powerful than he was as Evil Buu.

At the end of the day, however, it all depends on how you interpret these lines. I can't say for sure that one interpretation is right and another is wrong. All I have is an opinion, just like everyone else.

You could assume he was lying because he is later seen fighting a Stronger form of Buu and holding his own. Say what you want about him being the "most dangerous" it's HEAVILY implied that he is stronger - from Kaio's fear of him being "unpredictable" is meaningless on it's own when taking it out of context (especially considering the other 2 forms of Buu attempted to destroy the Earth as well) to Goku and Vegetas comments. Nothing stated from this point foward implies any sort of drop in power.

When the Boys first see Gohan, I could be wrong, but don't they mistake his power for Goku's? Also - since when were the boys a good gauge of power, when we factor in how they underestimated Majin Buu multiple times.

The Anime and the Manga both mirror eachother when the you stop trying to prove a theory that is obviously false.

[Draken]

Well, he said that nothing "there" implies he was weaker. Where's "there"? In the examples Darkprince410 and I gave? In that case, I guess he'd be right. Beyond that, though, I do think there are implications that Evil Buu was stronger. Amuro's probably tired of hearing this one, too, but Goku did say that he and Vegeta would be killed if they tried to fight him. Now, you could assume he was lying, but you could just as easily assume that he wasn't, and I'd still consider it an implication. In addition to that, when Buu reverts to his pure form, Goku says: "We did it! This way, we might be able to manage something." I find it hard to believe that he'd say this if all they'd succeeded in doing was making him smaller and more powerful than he was as Evil Buu.

At the end of the day, however, it all depends on how you interpret these lines. I can't say for sure that one interpretation is right and another is wrong. All I have is an opinion, just like everyone else.

You could assume he was lying because he is later seen fighting a Stronger form of Buu and holding his own. Say what you want about him being the "most dangerous" it's HEAVILY implied that he is stronger - from Kaio's fear of him being "unpredictable" is meaningless on it's own when taking it out of context (especially considering the other 2 forms of Buu attempted to destroy the Earth as well) to Goku and Vegetas comments. Nothing stated from this point foward implies any sort of drop in power.

When the Boys first see Gohan, I could be wrong, but don't they mistake his power for Goku's? Also - since when were the boys a good gauge of power, when we factor in how they underestimated Majin Buu multiple times.

The Anime and the Manga both mirror eachother when the you stop trying to prove a theory that is obviously false.

Not to be disrespectful, but from reading your arguments in this thread, I wish you'd stop being so... Well, blind to other peoples' perspectives. Saying absolutely NOTHING implies backing up the other persons' point of view is a pretty narrow view on a very broad and debatable subject, and probably why the discussion elevated to what it was before admins stepped in.

In my opinion, his power was mistaken for Goku's 1) Because they had similar ki anyways and
2) It was the strongest ki they felt, and automatically assumed it'd have to be Goku.

Many other arguments stated multiple times before in this very thread that you've responded to that took their evidence from very credible sources also imply Kid Buu < Super Buu. But I do respect your POV and many other people would agree with you. I personally don't, but can acquiesce the fact that you do.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

The guidebooks state that Ultimate Gohan is stronger than SS3 Goku. They also state that base Gotenks is as strong as base Gohan (Boo arc), and that Fusion makes the individual several dozens of times stronger (meaning that Gotenks is several dozens of times stronger than Goten, Gohan, or Trunks). Base Goku isn't many times stronger than base Gohan in Boo arc, so that makes base Gotenks way stronger than base Goku as well. So, Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks is way stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku, and we know that Ultimate Gohan is even stronger than Gotenks from both manga & anime.
And the guidebooks also state that Pure Boo is weaker than Evil Boo.

PS: The guidebooks are more reliable sources than the anime.