Why is SSJ God so powerful?

[TheGmGoken]

Of course I know that, just in terms of feats.

Birsu and SSG Goku's punches caused shockwaves

[TheMightyOzaru]

Of course I know that, just in terms of feats.

They haven't done anything of worth in terms of feats. We know from back story that Beers can destroy stars, but that's about it.

[Son Edo]

Should have stopped at Super Saiyan 3.

[TheGmGoken]

Should have stopped at Super Saiyan 3.

Should had stopped at SSJ. With SSJ2 being half saiyans only....

[Son Edo]

That's an interesting opinion, I never thought about super Saiyan 2 being exclusive to half saiyans.

[ZombieVito]

It was a set up joke just like how Piccolo couldn't stop Gotenks from flying off. A lot of people have Base Gotenks lower than Piccolo when keeping power levels in check, and yet Piccolo couldn't catch him. Piccolo also believed Gotenks was stronger. The whole thing was a set up gag since even Piccolo bought it. And he's smarter than Goku and Vegeta.

How the hell is this possible. I have never got Piccolo >> Base Gotenks.

[TheGmGoken]

That's an interesting opinion, I never thought about super Saiyan 2 being exclusive to half saiyans.

To me it only made sense. Seems like half saiyans got more emotions and it just feels right. Like how Half saiyans are just more stronger(If they trained) than full Saiyans.

[KentalSSJ6]

Of course I know that, just in terms of feats.

Birsu and SSG Goku's punches caused shockwaves

That happens in nearly every major fight. From Goku VS Freeza to Goku and Gohan VS Cell. Its their blows breaking the sound barrier and colliding with each other.

[TheGmGoken]

Of course I know that, just in terms of feats.

Birsu and SSG Goku's punches caused shockwaves

That happens in nearly every major fight. From Goku VS Freeza to Goku and Gohan VS Cell. Its their blows breaking the sound barrier and colliding with each other.

When did Gohan vs Cell cause shockwaves?

[KentalSSJ6]

I played it safe and said Goku AND Gohan cause I wasent really sure if Gohan and Cell actually caused shockwaves in their fight. But yeah the waves are prominent in nearly every major fight of DBZ.

[TheGmGoken]

I played it safe and said Goku AND Gohan cause I wasent really sure if Gohan and Cell actually caused shockwaves in their fight. But yeah the waves are prominent in nearly every major fight of DBZ.

When did Goku and Freeza cause shockwaves in the manga? Not counting transforming or powering up.

[KentalSSJ6]

If your bringing up the manga then why bring up the shockwaves shown with Goku vs Bills whos battle isnt in the manga?

[TheGmGoken]

If your bringing up the manga then why bring up the shockwaves shown with Goku vs Bills whos battle isnt in the manga?

Because BoG was wrote as if it was part of the manga serialization

[KentalSSJ6]

Ok, so by that logic the Goku and Freeza fight along with the Goku vs Cell fight follow the same serialization and therefore the shockwaves should be irrelevant in this matter whether they were in the manga or not.

[TheGmGoken]

Ok, so by that logic the Goku and Freeza fight along with the Goku vs Cell fight follow the same serialization and therefore the shockwaves should be irrelevant in this matter whether they were in the manga or not.

You misunderstood. Toriyama(I'll post the quote later) said he wrote the film as if it was apart of the manga serialization. The anime is NOT the manga and was written as an adaption. Not as if it was apart of the manga serialization.

[Zephyr]

You're citing these little theatrical effects as if Toriyama sat down and painstakingly made sure that Toei animated each teeny tiny individual little effect exactly how he would imagine himself having penned it 15 years ago.

Also, didn't Toriyama take an already written script/screenplay, and modify it to his liking? I don't think that really constitutes "this is what that never-drawn next chapter always looked like in my head!"

[TheGmGoken]

You're citing these little theatrical effects as if Toriyama sat down and painstakingly made sure that Toei animated each teeny tiny individual little effect exactly how he would imagine himself having penned it 15 years ago.

Also, didn't Toriyama take an already written script/screenplay, and modify it to his liking? I don't think that really constitutes "this is what that never-drawn next chapter always looked like in my head!"

No I'm not. I'm just saying the movie was made as if it was apart of the manga serialization. That's all. It may have coame off wrong. But from I understood. KentalSSJ said(N a nutshell) BoG visuals doesn't count cause it wasn't in the manga. That's all I'm saying.

[Zephyr]

No I'm not. I'm just saying the movie was made as if it was apart of the manga serialization. That's all. It may have coame off wrong. But from I understood. KentalSSJ said(N a nutshell) BoG visuals doesn't count cause it wasn't in the manga. That's all I'm saying.

Oh okay, my bad.

But it's still a kind of shaky assertion to say that BoG is exactly what Toriyama wanted the next chapter in the manga to be, regardless of that quote says, due to the very nature of him having modified an already written script.

Unless we're talking about the character behavior and such.

[TheGmGoken]

No I'm not. I'm just saying the movie was made as if it was apart of the manga serialization. That's all. It may have coame off wrong. But from I understood. KentalSSJ said(N a nutshell) BoG visuals doesn't count cause it wasn't in the manga. That's all I'm saying.

Oh okay, my bad.

But it's still a kind of shaky assertion to say that BoG is exactly what Toriyama wanted the next chapter in the manga to be, regardless of that quote says, due to the very nature of him having modified an already written script.

Unless we're talking about the character behavior and such.

Well it depends on how you take the interview to be honest. Some can debate that he meant change it up a little so it would't be a common Toei movie. Other can say he was he was just making sure the movie wasn't bad. There are many ways to take the quote.

[Rocketman]

Some can debate that he meant change it up a little so it would't be a common Toei movie. Other can say he was he was just making sure the movie wasn't bad.

And he failed miserably on all accounts.