Goku's mother...appearing soon?!

[KentalSSJ6]

I think people are really blowing this out of proportion. We know her name, and her personality. Thats it. We dont know if Goku's nature is gonna be changed to getting it from his mom so everyone chill till we get more details.

[dprez]

This is just more to know. This doesn't necessarily take anything away from Goku's simple background. Although I'm not a huge fan of his mother being "nice", and didn't even know about "nice" saiyans stated to exist in BoG until this thread. I prefer to see the saiyans as the ruthless barbarians they've been shown to be. As cunning and sophisticated as they can be, they are still monsters. His mother is not this at all it seams. I can see how this would work just fine even if it contradicts what I view saiyans to be. It doesn't really rub me the wrong way or anything, but I agree that simply a name would be enough. I don't really want to know she was peaceful or whatever like Goku was after he bumped his head. It's all fine and good but meh... I love learning the name at least!

The more the merrier. I love how Jaco is a Dragon Ball prequel and if his mother is a small part of it near the end then that's just fabulous.

[dbzfan7]

I think people are really blowing this out of proportion. We know her name, and her personality. Thats it. We dont know if Goku's nature is gonna be changed to getting it from his mom so everyone chill till we get more details.

So when are the Saiyan tea parties and the Saiyan hippies showing up....

[TheGmGoken]

It makes me question if Toriyama even remembers how Goku became a good person.

As TheDevilsCorpse mentioned, Jaco shows quite well that he still remembers.

I just don't see why some of you have to blow this so far out of proportion.

It's not out of proportion. Certain things should't be answered. That's what people liked about DBZ. Hell most fiction has ONE parent for main character. Gine is also a soft and not a fan of fighting. Sounds like Tarble. Hell they COULD make a small reference saying some of Goku's traits come from his mother which would't be contradicting anything nor would it not contradict anything. It's one of those things that just "WTF!". Though I hope Gine got Goku's smile. In the whole anime-manga. Every Saiyan that appeared(Even in movies) they all be ruthless and fighters. All talking about Saiyan Pride. All of sudden we got these Saiyans that are good? WHY!? WHY ARE THEY NEEDED!? Kinda ruins the Saiyans race and make Goku not an outsider. Hell GOOD Saiyans(And Saiyans that don't like to fight) are basically EARTHLINGS. Not Saiyans aren't special if they're good.

What's next? Freeza race gets a background story? How about the Kaio!? The creators of the universe? Whis? Maybe Krillin days in his temple. How about the creation of Shenlong? Grandpa Gohan special?

I think people are really blowing this out of proportion. We know her name, and her personality. Thats it. We dont know if Goku's nature is gonna be changed to getting it from his mom so everyone chill till we get more details.

It's the fact that all these years she wasn't needed. Her personality is just one more random ass Saiyan that's GOOD. Seriously. GOOD SAIYANS EVERYWHERE now a days. Remember when Saiyans was special? Remember how brutal they were? Growing up as a kid. I watched Nappa beat the shit out of Tien. I sure of hell wasn't thinking "WOW! Imagine the Good people!". No I was thinking "Goku is so different" and "WOW these Saiyans are fucking brutal".

[Rukura]

It was never something I really needed to know, but something I was always kinda curious about. I don't mind the mystery being revealed at all. Not exactly gonna be itching to know who Vegeta's mother is after this.

Anyone else wondering why Toriyama went for a Japanese vegetable name pun?

[Eddie]

Who cares who Goku's mom is?

Some people apparently do, and it seems Toriyama cared enough to oblige them.

Toriyama didn't care for what damn near 10 years? What makes him suddenly announce the name of Goku's mother. 10 years to late IMHO. Imagine if all fiction does that.

I know, right? That would be like Wolverine getting his birth name confirmed in an origin series years decades after his debut. That would be like finding out who Obi-Wan Kenobi's master was over 20 years from the release of Star Wars. That would be like JK Rowling writing a screenplay about the Harry Potter world telling the untold story of some random fictional dude that wrote a textbook. Thank God fiction never does that.

[dbzfan7]

So when do we hear that Vegeta's mom was a nice Saiyan too..and that she and Goku's mom hung out.

Vegeta: It's like a nice saiyan bargain sale.

[KentalSSJ6]

So when do we hear that Vegeta's mom was a nice Saiyan too..and that she and Goku's mom hung out.

Vegeta: It's like a nice saiyan bargain sale.

Plot twist, Goku and Vegeta's moms were sisters.

[TheGmGoken]

I know, right? That would be like Wolverine getting his birth name confirmed in an origin series years decades after his debut. That would be like finding out who Obi-Wan Kenobi's master was over 20 years from the release of Star Wars. That would be like JK Rowling writing a screenplay about the Harry Potter world telling the untold story of some random fictional dude that wrote a textbook. Thank God fiction never does that.

Yup. You named 3 characters out of everything in fiction. Perfect. Guess that means every fiction should do it. Yup cause unlike these 3 GOku's mother and her personality is so irrelevant it's not even funny. I guess TTGL creators should reveal Simon's parents name. Or how about Kamina being Simon's cousin instead of "Blood Brothers"

[dbzfan7]

So when do we hear that Vegeta's mom was a nice Saiyan too..and that she and Goku's mom hung out.

Vegeta: It's like a nice saiyan bargain sale.

Plot twist, Goku and Vegeta's moms were sisters.

And they were lesbians..seriously let's pile this shit up.

[KentalSSJ6]

So when do we hear that Vegeta's mom was a nice Saiyan too..and that she and Goku's mom hung out.

Vegeta: It's like a nice saiyan bargain sale.

Plot twist, Goku and Vegeta's moms were sisters.

And they were lesbians..seriously let's pile this shit up.

Yo Scarz, you writing all this down?

[penguintruth]

I know, right? That would be like Wolverine getting his birth name confirmed in an origin series years decades after his debut. That would be like finding out who Obi-Wan Kenobi's master was over 20 years from the release of Star Wars. That would be like JK Rowling writing a screenplay about the Harry Potter world telling the untold story of some random fictional dude that wrote a textbook. Thank God fiction never does that.

And all of that was stupid. Just like this.

[Eddie]

I know, right? That would be like Wolverine getting his birth name confirmed in an origin series years decades after his debut. That would be like finding out who Obi-Wan Kenobi's master was over 20 years from the release of Star Wars. That would be like JK Rowling writing a screenplay about the Harry Potter world telling the untold story of some random fictional dude that wrote a textbook. Thank God fiction never does that.

Yup. You named 3 characters out of everything in fiction. Perfect. Guess that means every fiction should do it. Yup cause unlike these 3 GOku's mother and her personality is so irrelevant it's not even funny. I guess TTGL creators should reveal Simon's parents name. Or how about Kamina being Simon's cousin instead of "Blood Brothers"

Okay then...

It's like Tolkien naming characters that are barely even implied to exist in his original work. It's like making a background character in Mortal Kombat II the big bad of the series. Hell, it's almost exactly like giving Reeve "I control a stupid robot cat" Tuesti's mother (who's never mentioned in Final Fantasy VII) a name and backstory. These things happen in fiction. All. The. Time.

[TheGmGoken]

I know, right? That would be like Wolverine getting his birth name confirmed in an origin series years decades after his debut. That would be like finding out who Obi-Wan Kenobi's master was over 20 years from the release of Star Wars. That would be like JK Rowling writing a screenplay about the Harry Potter world telling the untold story of some random fictional dude that wrote a textbook. Thank God fiction never does that.

Yup. You named 3 characters out of everything in fiction. Perfect. Guess that means every fiction should do it. Yup cause unlike these 3 GOku's mother and her personality is so irrelevant it's not even funny. I guess TTGL creators should reveal Simon's parents name. Or how about Kamina being Simon's cousin instead of "Blood Brothers"

Okay then...

It's like Tolkien naming characters that are barely even implied to exist in his original work. It's like making a background character in Mortal Kombat II the big bad of the series. Hell, it's almost exactly like giving Reeve "I control a stupid robot cat" Tuesti's mother (who's never mentioned in Final Fantasy VII) a name and backstory. These things happen in fiction. All. The. Time.

No they don't. I'm talking about the MAJORITY OF FICTION. Not some examples you throw out. I can name more mystery stuff than stuff that was stupid but confirmed. Making a character the big bad is NOTHING like this. Hell DBZ is slowly showing more and more of what made DBZ special. THe mystery. This is about Goku's mother not some new character who's big and bad. How often do you see in fiction the other parent being reveal? Especially 10+ years......after series ended.

[Scarz]

There's a side of me that wants to be against the whole "Goku having a mom" thing. I understand that the series need some mystery behind it. Especially things that happened in the past (like what Vegeta did before arriving to earth under Freeze regime). But after the BoG movie and the Bardock special, I'm just a little more accepting than I used to be. Maybe it's because I have to be, there's really nothing we can do to stop Goku's mom from appearing. It's just what it is for now. Sure it might tick some fans off, but at least the old manga and anime are still in tacked. Toriyama or Toei can add to franchise and story as much as they want but it wont effect your enjoyment of the parts that you like (at least I hope not).

Plot twist, Goku and Vegeta's moms were sisters.

And they were lesbians..seriously let's pile this shit up.

Yo Scarz, you writing all this down?

*scribbles notes*

[Akumaito Beam]

I know, right? That would be like Wolverine getting his birth name confirmed in an origin series years decades after his debut. That would be like finding out who Obi-Wan Kenobi's master was over 20 years from the release of Star Wars. That would be like JK Rowling writing a screenplay about the Harry Potter world telling the untold story of some random fictional dude that wrote a textbook. Thank God fiction never does that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxU2eqZtYmc

Man fuckin' poetry how does THAT work?

[Eddie]

Now you're trying to make it overly specific, for one thing. Let me simplify this. What we're dealing with here is retroactive continuity. In more common terms, it's a retcon. I'm not telling you that you have to enjoy a retcon. I'm just explaining that retcons are a thing that happen in damn near every long running bit of fiction ever made. I threw out a handful of examples, sure, but I wasn't saying those were the only instances of retconning ever. What am I supposed to do, post a 10,000 word essay?

It's also worth noting that Toriyama actually did this sort of thing during the original serialization. Ranfan received a named husband, for example.

[Herms]

Anyone else wondering why Toriyama went for a Japanese vegetable name pun?

Same reason he gave Nappa a Japanese vegetable pun: because...well, why wouldn't he? There's no big rule saying Saiyans should be named after the English words for vegetables, despite what some people seem to think.

[goku the krump dancer]

I think people are really blowing this out of proportion. We know her name, and her personality. Thats it. We dont know if Goku's nature is gonna be changed to getting it from his mom so everyone chill till we get more details.

I agree. I mean, this reveal hasn't really changed anything other than now we know his mother's name and a bit of her personality. You guys are wilding out over assumptions granted I did say if what you all are thinking comes to pass I'll be heated as well, but thats IF that happens. All we can so is speculate and chances are much like this announcement in of itself Toriyama will throw us another curve ball.

Though I do have a question. If she's supposed to be sweet and gentle, what was she doing on the battle field to be injured so many times? Perhaps Sweet and Gentle by Saiyan standards means she probably neglected to kill babies or something.

[Akumaito Beam]

It's also worth noting that Toriyama actually did this sort of thing during the original serialization. Ranfan received a named husband, for example.

I would even consider Raditz himself and all the Saiyan baggage he brought with him a retcon of sorts. Or at the very least it was a goofy ass pull no more dumb than Table.