Live-action movie trailer

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:14 pm

I don't think anyone ever said it was not real. I never said that.

Anyway, I still don't think this looks bad at all. It looks a bit darker than I thought it would. I honestly am happy with that though, I imagined it looking like power rangers, but instead it almost looks like a modern super hero movie. And honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if a Z sequel gets made even if this doesn't do all that well, considering Punisher 2 is coming out, and that movie flat out sucked, and bombed. And Fantastic 4 one didn't do all that well either, and it got a sequel.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:16 pm

MisterFlashdude wrote:It wouldn't have been that difficult to write a plot that blended the Pilaf, Red Ribbon, and Piccolo storylines together. Pilaf could've been involved exactly the way he was in the manga, by being the idiot who frees Piccolo. Instead of some eclipse.
And you can't look at Gollum and tell me they can't make a retarded little gremlin for the Dragonball movie.

But it doesn't really matter. It's all "could've been" now.

Yeah and you have ended up with something between the Chronicles of Narnia and the Lord of the Rings.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:18 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:Yeah and you have ended up with something between the Chronicles of Narnia and the Lord of the Rings.

Don't forget "the Cat in the Hat."

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:19 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:Ultimate Spidey's "changes" have a good deal of similarities to those of this movie, come to think of it.

As someone who follows both the 616 continuity and the Ultimate universe, I'm going to have to call bullshit on this one.

USM despite a lot of changes, Peter is still in high school (though so are Mary Jane and Gwen Stacey

) Uncle Ben still dies and it still keeps the spirit and tone of Spiderman in tact, none of the characters are indistinguishable from their original counterparts, and though the story takes different twists and turns, the majority of the time it's referencing the original in some way.

I'm not saying the movie is going to be horrible, but they are not the same kind of adaption, one is faithful to the original source material, one isn't.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:28 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:Yeah and you have ended up with something between the Chronicles of Narnia and the Lord of the Rings.
Don't forget "the Cat in the Hat."

Come on now The Cat in the Hat was pretty good given its genre.

Old Doc Seuss entertained me as a kid.

To be honest I want this movie to succeed even though it resembles a film from the mid to late 90’s. I want to see how they treat Vegeta in the sequel if he actually shows up if there is a sequel to this one. Then if they screw up his design and personality, I will criticize along with the others.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:31 pm

For Vegeta, all they have to do is find someone slightly older than Chatwin, who can play a good snoody asshole.
And yes, if they do make a sequel, Vegeta will most likely be the lead villain.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:37 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
MisterFlashdude wrote:It wouldn't have been that difficult to write a plot that blended the Pilaf, Red Ribbon, and Piccolo storylines together. Pilaf could've been involved exactly the way he was in the manga, by being the idiot who frees Piccolo. Instead of some eclipse.
And you can't look at Gollum and tell me they can't make a retarded little gremlin for the Dragonball movie.

But it doesn't really matter. It's all "could've been" now.
Yeah and you have ended up with something between the Chronicles of Narnia and the Lord of the Rings.

Seriously. Then you'd have to explain why Pilaf exists and who he is, who the Red Ribbon are, as well as Piccolo. All as an intro to Piccolo? That sounds like hours of waste to the plot. If you go the cameo route, you lose the option to use those characters in later possible sequels.

I say avoid bad writing and get straight to Piccolo.

snaku · Post by **snaku** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:37 pm

Wow. That was awful. Really awful.

This doesn't look Street Fighter the Movie bad, this looks Mortal Kombat Annihilation bad.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:41 pm

Ha ha ha oh man, this is going to be fucking awesome.

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:43 pm

Dayspring wrote:Then you'd have to explain why Pilaf exists and who he is, who the Red Ribbon are

...
Did they do that in the actual series?

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:47 pm

omegacwa wrote:For Vegeta, all they have to do is find someone slightly older than Chatwin, who can play a good snoody asshole.
And yes, if they do make a sequel, Vegeta will most likely be the lead villain.

Yeah, Jet Li should fit the bill nicely.

MisterFlashdude · Post by **MisterFlashdude** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:48 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:
Dayspring wrote:Then you'd have to explain why Pilaf exists and who he is, who the Red Ribbon are
...
Did they do that in the actual series?

Wow, that's exactly what I was about to say.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:49 pm

erghh no.

Also, to the guy who said this looks like Mortal Kombat Annihilation has no idea what they are talking about. This trailer/promo thing alone is worth watching a zillion times over. How dare you compare this movie to that cash in piece of crap. Maybe you should go an watch that "movie" again, cause I think you must have gone blind and not realized how awful that movie truly is.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:51 pm

omegacwa wrote:erghh no.

This trailer/promo thing alone is worth watching a zillion times over.

*Puts hands on hips and gives a fake grin* Oh You

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:53 pm

I meant in comparison to watching MK:A once.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:54 pm

Captain Awesome wrote:USM despite a lot of changes, Peter is still in high school (though so are Mary Jane and Gwen Stacey )

Peter is romantically involved with Mary Jane waaay sooner than he's "supposed" to. Seems like a more serious "offense" than the idea of Movie-Chi-chi getting Movie-Goku to understand love shortly before their marriage instead of shortly after.

Uncle Ben still dies

Unlike 616 Ben, he's actually around for a while before dying, long enough for the readers to care about him. Kind of like Movie-Gohan. Also as far as Movie-Gohan is concerned, his new role in the story is an improvement, since it actually serves some sort of purpose in the overall plot. But he still dies early.

and it still keeps the spirit and tone of Spiderman

Dragon Ball has ki blasts, demons and monsters in a fantastic, beautiful world, and a somewhat naive and innocent hero in the middle of it who is initially unaware of his dark, destructive origins. The movie has all that too, just with slightly different visuals behind them. Only significant difference is that the movie is portraying it with human actors instead of pen-and-paper 2D ones.

in fact, none of the characters are indistinguishable from their original counterparts

See Ultimate Gobby. And most of the other super-characters. In fact, the one character in Ultimate Spidey who most visually resembles his original self is the young protagonist. Kind of like the DragonBall movie.

, and though the story takes different twists and turns, the majority of the time it's referencing the original in some way.

Like how despite having a few story tweaks like the Eclipse factoring in somehow, Piccolo's connection with Goku, and an irrelevantly-short portion in a high-school, DragonBall will still depict Son Goku and his friends going on a journey in order to collect the seven DragonBalls in an attempt to prevent Piccolo from using them to rule the world?

I'm not saying the movie is going to be horrible, but they are not the same kind of adaption, one is faithful to the original source material, one isn't.

I'm not guaranteeing it'll be amazing, either. But I'm going to be judging it based on how well it's produced or acted in, not based on how close it sticks to the original. Because that's just how these kind of movies work.

Both the DragonBall movie and Ultimate Spider-Man are updated "retellings" of their original material. One of them is a little closer to the source than the other, but neither one are meant to be the same thing as the original.

Dayspring wrote:Seriously. Then you'd have to explain why Pilaf exists and who he is, who the Red Ribbon are, as well as Piccolo. All as an intro to Piccolo? That sounds like hours of waste to the plot. If you go the cameo route, you lose the option to use those characters in later possible sequels.

I say avoid bad writing and get straight to Piccolo.

I agree. Piccolo is the "main" DragonBall villain that most audiences are concerned about and would much rather see. You don't "need" Pilaf to get to Piccolo any more than you "need" Zarbon and Dodoria to introduce Freeza.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:56 pm

considering they ditched Pilaf and Shuu as Piccolo cronies, but left Mai, do you think they will ditch Kui, Zarbon and Dodoria, for.... Appule. Cause that would be awesome.

MisterFlashdude · Post by **MisterFlashdude** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:59 pm

omegacwa wrote:considering they ditched Pilaf and Shuu as Piccolo cronies, but left Mai, do you think they will ditch Kui, Zarbon and Dodoria, for.... Appule. Cause that would be awesome.

I think the only reason they included Mai was because she was the only female Dragonball villain they could find.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:00 pm

omegacwa wrote:considering they ditched Pilaf and Shuu as Piccolo cronies, but left Mai, do you think they will ditch Kui, Zarbon and Dodoria, for.... Appule. Cause that would be awesome.

Depending on how much time they dedicate towards Freeza, I could see them dropping everyone but Ginyu, and possibly Zarbon and Dodoria. Either that or include the entire Ginyu Force, but with everyone but Ginyu himself in much smaller roles.

MisterFlashdude wrote:I think the only reason they included Mai was because she was the only female Dragonball villain they could find.

As well as an homage to Pilaf, it seems.

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:00 pm

SSJ Kaboom said: As well as an homage to Pilaf, it seems.

Why is she the one that frees him from the jar in the movie?