Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:44 pm

Kakarot9001 wrote:About Freeza New Form, can everybody agree how cool would be a form like that for him? Better than that Gold crap for sure
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That is bloody horrific. :thumbdown:

I'll take Golden Freeza over that anyday.
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Post by fadeddreams5 » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:04 pm

Kakarot9001 wrote:About Freeza New Form, can everybody agree how cool would be a form like that for him? Better than that Gold crap for sure
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I like it way better than Gold Frieza, but it needs a lot of work. First of all, those generic red demon eyes need to go. Secondly, a recoloring is also in order. Some pink in there, like in his first three forms. Or maybe his actual skin should be pinkish red. Third, perhaps a slight height increase. Fourth, those horns on his head... doesn't work for me. Finally, the shoulder pads should be smaller and actually cover his shoulders.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:05 pm

Was just having a bit of fun with the new trailer and this: http://imgur.com/vidgif
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Looks like a pretty nifty piece of animation. :)

EDIT: And a few more, because why not...
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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:13 pm

All I know is I can tell my clients they can get away with so much shit now. Simple and tweaked is the new "but it's cinematic". It's gonna make the design process so much easier now. Poor people don't even need to think too much now.

Wonder how King Cold's new form would look if they gave him one like they did Freeza?
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Post by Ajay » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:15 pm

DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:Was just having a bit of fun with the new trailer and this: http://imgur.com/vidgif
Looks like a pretty nifty piece of animation. :)
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Post by snaku » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:26 pm

AjayLikesGaming wrote:
DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:Was just having a bit of fun with the new trailer and this: http://imgur.com/vidgif
Looks like a pretty nifty piece of animation. :)
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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:27 pm

Here's one I made of Earth going boom:

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:30 pm

What are the chances this movie ends with the Earth blowing up and a "To be continued..."?
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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:31 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:What are the chances this movie ends with the Earth blowing up and a "To be continued..."?
Very unlikely. I'd doubt they'd ever end on a "TO BE CONTINUED" note.
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Post by snaku » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:32 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:What are the chances this movie ends with the Earth blowing up and a "To be continued..."?
I sincerely doubt that shot from the trailer is of the Earth blowing up, probably another case of misdirection like the Vegeta heel turn. I think Toei is just trying to subvert expectations, so the actual movie ends up being a surprise.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:33 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:What are the chances this movie ends with the Earth blowing up and a "To be continued..."?
I'm sure that's a vision or transition effect to full you.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:37 pm

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fadeddreams5 wrote:What are the chances this movie ends with the Earth blowing up and a "To be continued..."?
Very unlikely. I'd doubt they'd ever end on a "TO BE CONTINUED" note.
I feel this movie's ending will lead into a third. I have a hunch.
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Post by Chuquita » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:43 pm

I'm currently supporting the cliffhanger theory. (Also the sub-theory to that about how the reason they didn't use Shida or Tate this time is because this is the lead-in to an even bigger extravaganza in the next movie, the 20th movie, and that's where they'll give it a bigger production time/bring in the big guns of their animation team).
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Post by Big Momma » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:51 pm

A cliffhanger would be pretty great. And it makes me wonder what a third movie could possibly be about... :think:

Hopefully they dive more into the "12 Universes" thing.

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Big Momma wrote:Even when Uub was originally shown he wasn't as strong as Kid Buu. Goku is excited about his potential to become even stronger than that.
Are you sure? Goku who had atained god power received a kick from Oob that made his arm tremble? How Oob is not that strong? Goku even said that someone that is not him (Oob) could win the tournament, making that Oob is in fact powerful but Goku with godly powers could easily defeat him... Hope Toriyama explain that in the 3rd movie lol
There's no rule saying Uub couldn't have gotten a good kick in. As people have said before, you're too focused on things like BL and "Who is stronger than who". Even if, at the end of the day, Goku was stronger than Uubs level at that tournament, that doesn't mean Uub couldn't have gotten a good kick in there. And Uub got that kick in after he was riled up by Goku, so it was pretty much in a fit of rage he got that burst of power. It was done to show the potential that he had.

But, I don't really see it being explained in any movies. Because it doesn't really matter. It's a minuscule detail that could simply be explained as "Uub was made angry so he got a quick power boost, exposing some of his potential.". Outside of the universe the explanation is that the ending was written years ago. God Form, Beerus, and all that wasn't even a thought back then. It's being written now as a fun/interesting way to bring back Dragon Ball. If you're expecting him to go in and tie up all these loose ends, you're just going to be disappointed.
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I hate using Toriyama's name like this. And I want to say of course I don't know 100% how the man thinks or does things. But, based on the interviews I've read and what I've seen in his work, he's pretty much always done things simply and gone against expectations out of spite. This is the man who, when people complained that his style was getting too angular around the later arcs and wanted him to go back to his more rounded style, drew things even more angular and straight just to spite them. The man who, as I quoted before, purposefully made SSG less impressive to mess with expectations.

I wouldn't be surprised if his form was gold only to tie in with the film coming out during Golden Week (Someone brought that up earlier). Even outside of that, though, and I can't stress this enough: He's not lazy simply because there's not much to the form. Laziness implies a lack of motivation, effort, or direction to complete the task at hand. He could have easily come up with some new 5th form Cooler copycat design or whatever, he did design Cooler's original 5th form design, after all. And, again, I'm not certain of the way he does things, but I just imagine he already knew people "expected" something along the vein of Coolers 5th form (If he even remembers it) and purposefully did something on the other side of the spectrum. Or purposefully kept the physical changes to a minimum. Because he knew that's what people expected.

Again, this is all just based on interviews.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:02 am

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All I know is I can tell my clients they can get away with so much shit now. Simple and tweaked is the new "but it's cinematic". It's gonna make the design process so much easier now.
I hate using Toriyama's name like this. And I want to say of course I don't know 100% how the man thinks or does things. But, based on the interviews I've read and what I've seen in his work, he's pretty much always done things simply and gone against expectations out of spite. This is the man who, when people complained that his style was getting too angular around the later arcs and wanted him to go back to his more rounded style, drew things even more angular and straight just to spite them. The man who, as I quoted before, purposefully made SSG less impressive to mess with expectations.

I wouldn't be surprised if his form was gold only to tie in with the film coming out during Golden Week (Someone brought that up earlier). Even outside of that, though, and I can't stress this enough: He's not lazy simply because there's not much to the form. Laziness implies a lack of motivation, effort, or direction to complete the task at hand. He could have easily come up with some new 5th form Cooler copycat design or whatever, he did design Cooler's original 5th form design, after all. And, again, I'm not certain of the way he does things, but I just imagine he already knew people "expected" something along the vein of Coolers 5th form (If he even remembers it) and purposefully did something on the other side of the spectrum. Or purposefully kept the physical changes to a minimum. Because he knew that's what people expected.

Again, this is all just based on interviews.
And I've seen the interviews. He killed Vegeta out of spite before when someone asked him not to do that. I ain't asking for a 5th form Cooler clone, I'm asking for something I could never think of. Something no one could think of. Plenty of people can think of this. I've told a few artists who come to me to not go all the way into new territory, but at least try to have a design that stands on it's own. This coming for characters based of their other designs, or existing characters. When I see this, I see lots of people cheering, cause now their jobs have become so much easier. All it takes to make something special, is to tweak an existing design. As I've said before (but not here) a good transformation is one that can stand on it's own to bring whatever emotion comes to a scene (in this case intimidation), or a design that could easily be used for another character of the same species. Take SSJ Goku, change his clothes, and you could pass him off as a new character if Goku never got transformations. The SSJ design for him is good enough to be a new character (Though that wouldn't work for people like Vegeta or Adult Gohan).

At this point I could tell anyone I work with to just take an existing design, tweak it, change the colours up, and they could either call it a new form or character. They woudn't even have to try to think of something on their own to be fresh.
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Post by SaiyanZ » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:11 am

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SaiyanZ wrote:I don't like the title "Golden Freeza". Should be "God Freeza" or something
"Golden Freeza" works in the context of the evolution that Freeza goes through. "God Freeza" would just be unnecessary name for the new form.
I disagree. They should've called Goku "Red Goku" then. It just sounds like a Hasbro toy name or something
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:13 am

Keep in mind though that we still don't actually know for a fact - unless I've missed something - that Freeza's power-up entails God ki or anything of the sort at all. It's just very highly assumed that it does.
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Post by SaiyanZ » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:14 am

Gyt Kaliba wrote:Keep in mind though that we still don't actually know for a fact - unless I've missed something - that Freeza's power-up entails God ki or anything of the sort at all. It's just very highly assumed that it does.
That is true. Still, some other name besides Golden Freeza should've been used. Or if they can't think of anything, don't name it anything yet
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Post by Bullza » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:19 am

That shot of Earth seemingly exploding was the most surprising thing about the trailer. On the one hand I figure it is a vision probably something to do with the Oracle Fish as in the Dragon Ball world the Earth already exploded a few years prior and it's perfectly intact by the end of the series so would they really bother doing all that again?

On the other hand there's that shot of Beerus and Whis in space surrounded by debris so I dunno.

I wouldn't mind it ending on a cliffhanger like how some of the Marvel films do but I don't want it to have a "To be continued" type ending where I'm going have to wait two years to see what happens next.

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