Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Dyno]

can you resolve me this puzzle please? are these movies canon with manga and not with the anime series?

if i understand correctly manga canon is:

dragon ball minus/jaco - dragon ball manga - bog - fnf

toei canon is:

the father of goku - db anime - dbz anime - dbgt anime

i think this because i don't understand how jaco can shows up in this "canon" movie...

Bardock vs Freeza in the TV Special is also "manga canon". But... We won't start another "canon/filler" thread yet again, shall we?

[Kakarot9001]

can you resolve me this puzzle please? are these movies canon with manga and not with the anime series?

if i understand correctly manga canon is:

dragon ball minus/jaco - dragon ball manga - bog - fnf

toei canon is:

the father of goku - db anime - dbz anime - dbgt anime

i think this because i don't understand how jaco can shows up in this "canon" movie...

I think I prefer way more TOEI Canon than that... Toriyama trying to making Minus canon is absurd

[Hellspawn28]

Also I like some of GT and Toriyama is trying to ignore it, sad

I don't see how that's a bad thing. GT was a total mess and I rather see Toriyama ignore in order to create new ideas in the franchise. It's not like GT is going to remove on the face of the Earth. GT characters will still appear in video games. I think GT will be view as a AU series similar how DB Movies 1-4 and DBZ Movies 1-13 are view as AU films (With Movie 9 and 13 being debatable to fit into the timeline or not) if GT is ignore for good.

[Low Tone G]

What facts do you guys like/dislike so far regarding the movie?

+ Goku and Vegeta training with Whis
+ Goku and Vegeta not going Super Saiyan because it's useless(I hope Vegeta got SSJ-God off-screen and had a sparring match with Goku and was able to absorb its power)
+ Jaco in the film
+ Freeza to know about Majin Buu and Beerus
+ Beerus in the film
+ Goku's and Vegeta's new outfits
+ Other members to be useful again
+ Sorbet to plan to find the Namkiens instead of choosing the Earth from the beginning
+ Sorbet to have a mystical ring apparantly useful in combat(any maybe for more than that)
+ Double-eye scouters
+ Maximum The Hormone's F song
+ Freeza's Golden Evolution's aura
+ A better animation than of BoG's

- Freeza to be the main villain instead of some new character
- Freeza having a body in the Hell
- Freeza to reach Vegetto+ level in 4 months
- Freeza to acheive Godlike power on his own
- Freeza's minions to have power to match the Z-warriors
- Freeza to get resurrected in pieces still being alive for a relatively long time
- Gohan to go Super Saiyan
- Trunks' and Goten's apparent absence
- Pilaf and Co. to be in the movie - it's really boring now
- Apparently the story isn't at all original, it's a mirrored version of Namek saga, but now it can turn in favor of Vegeta instead of Goku
- Lack of any signs of the multiverse issue from BoG to dive in
- Inconsistencies of Freeza's power level of true form to be on par with God Goku(God power absorbed) when it was implied that the God Ki can not be matched by normal Ki.
- A planet to explode, just like in the case of Namek back then
- Momoiro Clover Z to sing and dub those angels from Hell
- To be srceened in 3D and 4DX

0(neutral) Krillin to have shaved head
0 Freeza's Golden Evolution's design
0 To be screened in IMAX.

So 13 positive opinions 15 negative opinions and 3 netural ones.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

- Freeza's minions to have power to match the Z-warriors

I wouldn't be so sure. Sorbet was the leader of Freeza's army, and Tagoma, Sorbet's personal bodyguard, was around as strong as Dodoria & Zarbon, and he was supposed to be impressive. I predict that the reason Piccolo was affected by that red guy's hits was because the soldiers are so many that tired Piccolo, which made him weaker.

- Inconsistencies of Freeza's power level of true form to be on par with God Goku(God power absorbed) when it was implied that the God Ki can not be matched by normal Ki.

How was this implied? If it really was, how was Goku & Piccolo stronger than Kami? How was Nappa stronger than Kaio? How was Dabra stronger than Kaioshin?

[Marco Polo]

Bardock vs Freeza in the TV Special is also "manga canon". But... We won't start another "canon/filler" thread yet again, shall we?

More like Bardock vs Freeza from the manga is manga canon. Just because Toriyama was inspired by the TV Special doesn't make the TV Special canon in any way.

[Dyno]

More like Bardock vs Freeza from the manga is manga canon. Just because Toriyama was inspired by the TV Special doesn't make the TV Special canon in any way.

Pay attention and read properly, I said specifically "Bardock vs Freeza" scene, I didn't say the whole TV Special.

[Marco Polo]

More like Bardock vs Freeza from the manga is manga canon. Just because Toriyama was inspired by the TV Special doesn't make the TV Special canon in any way.

Pay attention and read properly, I said specifically "Bardock vs Freeza" scene, I didn't say the whole TV Special.

But that's my point. Only the panel in the manga is canon. We don't know if the rest of the scene happened in a similar way to the one in the TV Special.

[sintzu]

The story isn't at all original, it's a mirrored version of Namek saga, but now it can turn in favor of Vegeta instead of Goku

As a Vegeta fan I couldn't have asked for anything better.

[Zelvin]

I wouldn't be so sure. Sorbet was the leader of Freeza's army, and Tagoma, Sorbet's personal bodyguard, was around as strong as Dodoria & Zarbon, and he was supposed to be impressive. I predict that the reason Piccolo was affected by that red guy's hits was because the soldiers are so many that tired Piccolo, which made him weaker.

I don't even see that as a possibility. At this stage Piccolo should be on the same standing as SPC, if not higher. Freeza's average goons could all be annihilated by even Vegeta after his fight with Recoome. Any of the main Z-fighters at this stage should be able to wipe out Freeza's entire army as easily as Cell wiped out the Earth military. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIhKswWkn5k

The only way any of Freeza's men could even remotely be a threat is if some of them followed along the same routes as Abo and Cado from the special episode, individuals who'd gone off the grid and become stronger on their own to rival Freeza's previous levels. And even then, they'd be babycakes to Piccolo.


So those in special armor would have to be even stronger, and the Z-crew would have to be outnumbered by such figures to even be in any kind of trouble. Thus far the scene of Piccolo getting hurt and being in trouble just makes no sense.

[Low Tone G]

- Freeza's minions to have power to match the Z-warriors

I wouldn't be so sure. Sorbet was the leader of Freeza's army, and Tagoma, Sorbet's personal bodyguard, was around as strong as Dodoria & Zarbon, and he was supposed to be impressive. I predict that the reason Piccolo was affected by that red guy's hits was because the soldiers are so many that tired Piccolo, which made him weaker.

- Inconsistencies of Freeza's power level of true form to be on par with God Goku(God power absorbed) when it was implied that the God Ki can not be matched by normal Ki.

How was this implied? If it really was, how was Goku & Piccolo stronger than Kami? How was Nappa stronger than Kaio? How was Dabra stronger than Kaioshin?

Piccolo to get exhausted by 1000+ soldiers who supposed to be on Raditz level when he is SSJ+ Tier, it's simply ridiculous. Piccolo should be able kill them all at once, I really hope that the Z- warriors will get stolen of their power somehow, so that's why they become weak enough to be beaten.

It stands to reason to mention that Kami isn't a God(even if the names states it), he is just a random Namekian with some special skills. Maybe King Kai is a God, but only a God of Creation, the same goes to Kaioshin.

[Kakarot9001]

That God Ki was one of the lamest thing ever introduced in the series... It means that only Gods Of Destruction have a Godly Ki? What the f*ck

How about the Kais, Grand Kai and Kaioshin? They're all Gods but none of them have this "Godly Ki"

and other people saying that normal Ki can't match a Godly Ki is pure speculation... I would like to know if Beerus "Godly Ki" could handle a SSJ4 Gogeta, for sure.

[KaiserNeko]

"These scenes of Piccolo/Gohan/(Insert Character) taking damage make no sense!"

Watch the movie.

Watch the movie and see if it does then.

Seriously, this point can only be parroted so many times before it becomes borderline asinine. Obviously it's weird that these soldiers are doing damage. We don't know why yet, though. So until we see the movie, I legitimately don't understand the point of consistently bringing it up as a point of concern. It's as if people want something to hate about the movie, without having even seen it.

[Herms]

It's stands to reason to mention that Kami isn't a God(even if the names states it), he is just a random Namekian with some special skills. MAybe King Kai is God, but only a God of Creation, the same goes to Kaioshin.

No, "Kami" is simply the Japanese word for "God", and the character is called "God" because he's a god, the God of Earth specifically. This is a basic fact of the series that's stated many time. Likewise, Kaio is repeatedly and unambiguously identified as a god throughout the series, as is Kaioshin (whose name means "God of the Kaio"). Toriyama noted in the lead-up to BoG that gods are a staple of his manga, and he made Beerus a cat to set him apart from the loads of gods that had previously appeared in DB. It's true that DB has a weird, quirky idea of what counts as a god, and Toriyama's upfront in saying he likes the gods in his stories to turn out to be a bit shit and hardly different than regular people. But that's simply what "god" means in DB terms, and the series is very clear that the stupid Namekians guy is a god in as much a sense as Beerus is.

[Bullza]

So apparently Ponyo holds the record for the widest release in Japan for a domestic movie at 481 screens. If Revival of F really is released in 640-650 screens then it has smashed a long standing record.

[sintzu]

If Revival of F really is released in 640-650 screens then it has smashed a long standing record.

It's really good to see that they have this kind of confidence in the movie.

[miguelnuva1]

That God Ki was one of the lamest thing ever introduced in the series... It means that only Gods Of Destruction have a Godly Ki? What the f*ck

How about the Kais, Grand Kai and Kaioshin? They're all Gods but none of them have this "Godly Ki"

and other people saying that normal Ki can't match a Godly Ki is pure speculation... I would like to know if Beerus "Godly Ki" could handle a SSJ4 Gogeta, for sure.

Beerus has better feat statements than Gogeta.

[Herms]

If Revival of F really is released in 640-650 screens then it has smashed a long standing record.

It's really good to see that they have this kind of confidence in the movie.

I think it's a good sign too, but on the flipside, if this ends up flopping it might be something of a fiasco.

[Friezacooler]

Beerus has better feat statements than Gogeta.

What statements?

[sintzu]

If this ends up flopping it might be something of a fiasco.

With the pre release tickets selling 30% more then BOG' I don't think it'll come to that.