Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:59 pm

GoldLiger wrote:Because of how Goku went into SSG PROVING that HE CAN TRANSFORM INTO THAT STATE IN BOG. Eliminating the use of the form when the reason the Earth still stands is a plothole that will be retconned.
Goku transformed into a SSG again because he absorbed the immense of God Ki from Beerus' attack that was going to destroy the world. And he only did become a SSG for a few seconds before returning to his base form. And Goku did it unconsciously.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:02 pm

Bra in GT. She's clearly depicted as a 16 year old teenager, yet she's 9-11, right? lol
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Herms » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:04 pm

GoldLiger wrote:Because as it is stated in the databooks: "Kuririn no longer waxes his head because he got married to C18 and the choice was because of love."
What book is that supposed to be from?

Anyway, in the main series Gohan explains (in a 4th wall breaking speech directly to the audience) that Kuririn stopped shaving his head because he gave up on martial arts. The explanation in the promotional material for the new movie is that Kuririn has shaved his head once more in order to regain his fighting spirit, which fits with Gohan's explanation as to why he had stopped shaving his head.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Bra in GT. She's clearly depicted as a 16 year old teenager, yet she's 9-11, right? lol
She's depicted as dressing like a teenager. Whether she actually physically looks like a teenager is a matter of debate, especially given Toriyama's way of depicting character ages, and the way manga/anime characters often look older than they're supposed to be. I mean, I've been reading through all of Ranma for the past few months, and there Ranma/Akane/Ryoga/etc are all repeatedly said to be 16, but they all look arguably a bit older than that, and definitely older than Bra looks in GT. And Yusuke and friends in Yu Yu Hakusho are supposed to be 14, and also look older than GT Bra. I know it's a bit silly to compare characters from different series with different art styles, but I think it shows that the idea of Bra being much younger than 16 in GT isn't completely crazy and out of left field.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:06 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:Bra in GT. She's clearly depicted as a 16 year old teenager, yet she's 9-11, right? lol
Just because somebody act like a teenager doesn't mean they physically are. Goku acts like a child well into his adult years but does that make him biologically a child?

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Post by Big Momma » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:07 pm

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Because as it is stated in the databooks: "Kuririn no longer waxes his head because he got married to C18 and the choice was because of love."

Kuririn doesn't need to shave his head to be a good fighter as shown in the Tarble Special.
And, from the sound of #18's VA, he chooses to shave it again because of love (Or, rather, it just leads to a tender moment).
I doubt he will be shaving his hair because he thinks it will make him a better fighter (Unless they throw in some kind of "Aerodynamics" joke).
Did you NOT see Bulla's official design in GT by Akira Toriyama? That is why facts made before events can't be taken into context if they DON'T match the creators design. He probably forgot to update his facts after making the designs.
Yes, I did. And she doesn't even look that old. Not older than Pan, at least. The only reason people think that is because of the actual outfit.

It's GT, anyway. Why should it matter?
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:10 pm

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fadeddreams5 wrote:Bra in GT. She's clearly depicted as a 16 year old teenager, yet she's 9-11, right? lol
Just because somebody act like a teenager doesn't mean they physically are. Goku acts like a child well into his adult years but does that make him biologically a child?
Besides her personality, there's also the clothes she wears, and the fact that she's hit on by older teenagers too, if I'm not mistaken. It's creepy. Reminds me of those beauty pageants for little girls.

An adult acting like a child is cute. Just shows his ignorance/innocence. =P
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by GoldLiger » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:11 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
GoldLiger wrote:Because of how Goku went into SSG PROVING that HE CAN TRANSFORM INTO THAT STATE IN BOG. Eliminating the use of the form when the reason the Earth still stands is a plothole that will be retconned.
Goku transformed into a SSG again because he absorbed the immense of God Ki from Beerus' attack that was going to destroy the world. And he only did become a SSG for a few seconds before returning to his base form. And Goku did it unconsciously.
Dude did you not really see the movie. He became a God BEFORE absorbing Beerus' attack. Anyone here can tell you that lol.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:11 pm

So movie movie movie...erm. Any guess as to who will be next on the blog? I guess it's gonna be either Goku or the staff again.
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Post by GoldLiger » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:12 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:Bra in GT. She's clearly depicted as a 16 year old teenager, yet she's 9-11, right? lol
She is 8 since she is one year younger than Pan was and Pan is 9 years old at the start of GT.
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Post by Captain Space » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:13 pm

So I'm like the only one who didn't think that Goku absorbed the attack and just thought he briefly flashed back into SSJG and hence blocked it then.
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Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:13 pm

GoldLiger wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:Bra in GT. She's clearly depicted as a 16 year old teenager, yet she's 9-11, right? lol
She is 8 since she is one year younger than Pan was and Pan is 9 years old at the start of GT.
Holy shit. lol.
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Post by Sandubadear » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:15 pm

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GoldLiger wrote:Because of how Goku went into SSG PROVING that HE CAN TRANSFORM INTO THAT STATE IN BOG. Eliminating the use of the form when the reason the Earth still stands is a plothole that will be retconned.
Goku transformed into a SSG again because he absorbed the immense of God Ki from Beerus' attack that was going to destroy the world. And he only did become a SSG for a few seconds before returning to his base form. And Goku did it unconsciously.
He transformed first, and then absorbed. And even saying he "absorbed" isn't correct, because if he absorbed, he wouldn't be so exausted after that.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:21 pm

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Lord Beerus wrote:
GoldLiger wrote:Because of how Goku went into SSG PROVING that HE CAN TRANSFORM INTO THAT STATE IN BOG. Eliminating the use of the form when the reason the Earth still stands is a plothole that will be retconned.
Goku transformed into a SSG again because he absorbed the immense of God Ki from Beerus' attack that was going to destroy the world. And he only did become a SSG for a few seconds before returning to his base form. And Goku did it unconsciously.
He transformed first, and then absorbed. And even saying he "absorbed" isn't correct, because if he absorbed, he wouldn't be so exausted after that.
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Crap, you're right. :oops:

I guess I mistook the blue aura that first appeared as interpretation for Goku beginning to absorb Beerus' attack.

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Post by GoldLiger » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:22 pm

And, from the sound of #18's VA, he chooses to shave it again because of love (Or, rather, it just leads to a tender moment).
I doubt he will be shaving his hair because he thinks it will make him a better fighter (Unless they throw in some kind of "Aerodynamics" joke).
Yes, I did. And she doesn't even look that old. Not older than Pan, at least. The only reason people think that is because of the actual outfit.
It's GT, anyway. Why should it matter?
The whole 18 thing was because of the script by the NOW older AT. Same AT who forgot about Shenron's wish capabilities and quantities. Same AT who forgot the difference between SS2 and SS3. Same AT who forgot that Marron is 7/8 years old and can feed herself. Same AT who counter acts HIS OWN MOVIE PLOT stating that all the good saiyans died with the original Saiyan God but later makes Gine a good mother and Bardock a caring father which that in itself counteracts how Saiyan are an supposed to be an evil race at that time.
Captain Space wrote:So I'm like the only one who didn't think that Goku absorbed the attack and just thought he briefly flashed back into SSJG and hence blocked it then.
Goku went God again then Absorb Beerus' attack.
I guess I mistook the blue aura that first appeared as interpretation for Goku beginning to absorb Beerus' attack.
We all make mistakes but AT's mistakes become retcon facts later on.
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fadeddreams5 wrote:Bra in GT. She's clearly depicted as a 16 year old teenager, yet she's 9-11, right? lol
She is 8 since she is one year younger than Pan was and Pan is 9 years old at the start of GT.
Holy shit. lol.
That is why I said that the databook at the time was incorrect. Along with the fact he didn't correct it after designing Bulla because he probably forgot because of personal issues.
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Post by Sandubadear » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:27 pm

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fadeddreams5 wrote:Bra in GT. She's clearly depicted as a 16 year old teenager, yet she's 9-11, right? lol
She is 8 since she is one year younger than Pan was and Pan is 9 years old at the start of GT.
Pan is 10 and Bra is 9. They were born in 779 and 780 respectively, and GT happens in 789.
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Post by Captain Space » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:28 pm

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Captain Space wrote:So I'm like the only one who didn't think that Goku absorbed the attack and just thought he briefly flashed back into SSJG and hence blocked it then.
Goku went God again then Absorb Beerus' attack.
There's nothing in that scene to indicate that. The attack sorta went away. No reason that couldn't be him just, y'know, stopping it with his own ki.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:34 pm

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Except that Kuririn's reason to wax his hair was because of his monk status. When he MARRIED C18 he didn't need to wax anymore. Unless you want to tell me he divorces C18 then please use a manga continuity reason why he would shave his head when most police officers have at the most a military haircut(which I tell you is really short hair basically what BoG Kuririn had).
Why can't the dude just shave his head because he wants to? Why the hell does everything need some kind of complex explanation?
Because as it is stated in the databooks: "Kuririn no longer waxes his head because he got married to C18 and the choice was because of love."

Kuririn doesn't need to shave his head to be a good fighter as shown in the Tarble Special.
You can't possibly be this rigid about a haircut, can you? Since when does deciding to let your hair grow out again stipulate that you'll never want to shave it down again for any number of reasons?
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Post by GoldLiger » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:35 pm

Sandubadear wrote:
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fadeddreams5 wrote:Bra in GT. She's clearly depicted as a 16 year old teenager, yet she's 9-11, right? lol
She is 8 since she is one year younger than Pan was and Pan is 9 years old at the start of GT.
Pan is 10 and Bra is 9. They were born in 779 and 780 respectively, and GT happens in 789.
GT started in year 787. Because remember that they had to get the black star dragonballs first only for baby to use it again to regain his home planet so another year till the Earth went BOOM. Also GT in the JAPANESE version is officially stated to take place FIVE YEARS AFTER THE FINAL CHAPTER OF DB.
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Post by Dyno » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:36 pm

GT started in 789 and ended in 790.

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Post by GoldLiger » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:37 pm

Captain Space wrote:
GoldLiger wrote:
Captain Space wrote:So I'm like the only one who didn't think that Goku absorbed the attack and just thought he briefly flashed back into SSJG and hence blocked it then.
Goku went God again then Absorb Beerus' attack.
There's nothing in that scene to indicate that. The attack sorta went away. No reason that couldn't be him just, y'know, stopping it with his own ki.
Dude you saw that Goku got the God Energy(blue aura), went SSG, and then started absorbing Beerus' attack. Look at the scene again.
Dyno wrote:GT started in 789 and ended in 790.
Did you forget about the whole dragon ball hunt? Another wish and Earth blowing up? That is 2 years. Plus that 789 is the US version of the events. The japan version states 5 years after EoZ.
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