Unpopular DB opinions
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
Yeah, Movie 7 is my vote for worst. I think even Broly has more personality than Super Android 17.
Another thing is that I don't really understand the Future Gohan hype at all, not much difference between someone like him and Tenshinhan.
Another thing is that I don't really understand the Future Gohan hype at all, not much difference between someone like him and Tenshinhan.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
- DBZAOTA482
- Banned
- Posts: 6995
- Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:04 pm
- Contact:
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
1. I dunno if I'd say it's the worst. It's definitely a sub-par movie but it had some of the best tracks by Shunsuke Kikuchi. Movie 11, on other hand, has no redeeming qualities to speak of.Kid Buu wrote:Yeah, Movie 7 is my vote for worst. I think even Broly has more personality than Super Android 17.
Another thing is that I don't really understand the Future Gohan hype at all, not much difference between someone like him and Tenshinhan.
2. I think it's because the anime made cooled him up a bit.
Anyways, speaking of Gohan:
-I fucking hate Ultimate Gohan, and I don't see why people like him. He should be called Ultimate Jackass. Seriously, you'd think the kid would learn from the events of the Cell Games that it's a bad idea to purposely prolong the battle against the enemy but nooo... he had to bathe in his own ego. Did I also forget to mention he's a fucking moron?
-Bardock is the most badass character in Dragon Ball.
-Fat Majin Boo was a terrible villain.
-Dr. Gero should have been the main villain of the Artificial Human Saga.
-Even though I agree Future Trunks loses his cool points (though not entirely) after his debut I don't really agree with him being overrated.
-Out of all the female characters, I think Chi-Chi makes for the best fanart/fanfic material.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
- TheGmGoken
- Namekian Warrior
- Posts: 10592
- Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:19 pm
- Location: Capsule Corps
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
I respect your opinion but Gohan wasn't prolonging the battle. The manga version wasn't even that long. The anime version made it longer. Also how is Gohan a moron? Cause he didn't know Boo can eat people? More like Supreme Kai than Gohan.I fucking hate Ultimate Gohan, and I don't see why people like him. He should be called Ultimate Jackass. Seriously, you'd think the kid would learn from the events of the Cell Games that it's a bad idea to purposely prolong the battle against the enemy but nooo... he had to bathe in his own ego. Did I also forget to mention he's a fucking moron?
- DBZAOTA482
- Banned
- Posts: 6995
- Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:04 pm
- Contact:
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
Because Gohan fell for Boo's obvious bluff even though Piccolo was pointing out that Boo may be up to something. When your former master is telling you that your enemy has something up his/her sleeve you should listen.TheGmGoken wrote:I respect your opinion but Gohan wasn't prolonging the battle. The manga version wasn't even that long. The anime version made it longer. Also how is Gohan a moron? Cause he didn't know Boo can eat people? More like Supreme Kai than Gohan.I fucking hate Ultimate Gohan, and I don't see why people like him. He should be called Ultimate Jackass. Seriously, you'd think the kid would learn from the events of the Cell Games that it's a bad idea to purposely prolong the battle against the enemy but nooo... he had to bathe in his own ego. Did I also forget to mention he's a fucking moron?
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
That's not how it went down. Boo told Gohan he wanted to fight Gotenks, and Gohan repeatedly told him no, but then Goten and Trunks went ahead and fused. Piccolo told them not to do anything, not Gohan. And then Gotenks demanded he be allowed to fight and Gohan reluctantly agreed but told them to be careful. Gohan didn't act any differently than Piccolo here, really.DBZAOTA482 wrote:Because Gohan fell for Boo's obvious bluff even though Piccolo was pointing out that Boo may be up to something. When your former master is telling you that your enemy has something up his/her sleeve you should listen.TheGmGoken wrote:I respect your opinion but Gohan wasn't prolonging the battle. The manga version wasn't even that long. The anime version made it longer. Also how is Gohan a moron? Cause he didn't know Boo can eat people? More like Supreme Kai than Gohan.I fucking hate Ultimate Gohan, and I don't see why people like him. He should be called Ultimate Jackass. Seriously, you'd think the kid would learn from the events of the Cell Games that it's a bad idea to purposely prolong the battle against the enemy but nooo... he had to bathe in his own ego. Did I also forget to mention he's a fucking moron?
I'm re-watching Dragon Ball GT in full on my blog. Check it out if you're interested in my thoughts on the series as I watch through it!
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
Yeah I am not too into Mystic Gohan either. I liked Gohan in his debut; he was interesting because he had Goku's fighting talent but he did not want to fight. However a big deal of his character development in the Vegeta battle was getting over that. So after that he is pretty much just a generic fighter whose only niche are his anger boosts, which are not really interesting as they never amounted to much on Namek. He does get to have the Cell Games, but in my opinion it just made him look worse as both Goku and even Cell had to baby him the entire match. I think it might be the only time the villain has to hold the heroes hand in a fight.
But things changed with the Saiyaman arc; Gohan got some really good character growth there. He finally has a proper personality, is a superhero, becomes a mentor to his little brother, and gets a girlfriend. Unfortunately by the end of the 25h Tenkaichi Budokai it seemed like all of those aspects had disappeared and Toriyama once again turned him into some idiot who cannot even catch an earring.
But things changed with the Saiyaman arc; Gohan got some really good character growth there. He finally has a proper personality, is a superhero, becomes a mentor to his little brother, and gets a girlfriend. Unfortunately by the end of the 25h Tenkaichi Budokai it seemed like all of those aspects had disappeared and Toriyama once again turned him into some idiot who cannot even catch an earring.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
- DBZAOTA482
- Banned
- Posts: 6995
- Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:04 pm
- Contact:
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
Gohan did question Boo's request to fight Gotenks but not for the same reason Piccolo did. Either way he acted like a jackass, anime or manga.Saiga wrote:That's not how it went down. Boo told Gohan he wanted to fight Gotenks, and Gohan repeatedly told him no, but then Goten and Trunks went ahead and fused. Piccolo told them not to do anything, not Gohan. And then Gotenks demanded he be allowed to fight and Gohan reluctantly agreed but told them to be careful. Gohan didn't act any differently than Piccolo here, really.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
The thing is Toriyama basically made everyone have jackass moments after Namek.DBZAOTA482 wrote:Gohan did question Boo's request to fight Gotenks but not for the same reason Piccolo did. Either way he acted like a jackass, anime or manga.Saiga wrote:That's not how it went down. Boo told Gohan he wanted to fight Gotenks, and Gohan repeatedly told him no, but then Goten and Trunks went ahead and fused. Piccolo told them not to do anything, not Gohan. And then Gotenks demanded he be allowed to fight and Gohan reluctantly agreed but told them to be careful. Gohan didn't act any differently than Piccolo here, really.
Chiaotzu picked a good time to be written out of the story.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
How do you know that? He was the one saying Boo must have been up to something before Piccolo even did, after Boo blew up. He said so multiple times.DBZAOTA482 wrote:Gohan did question Boo's request to fight Gotenks but not for the same reason Piccolo did. Either way he acted like a jackass, anime or manga.Saiga wrote:That's not how it went down. Boo told Gohan he wanted to fight Gotenks, and Gohan repeatedly told him no, but then Goten and Trunks went ahead and fused. Piccolo told them not to do anything, not Gohan. And then Gotenks demanded he be allowed to fight and Gohan reluctantly agreed but told them to be careful. Gohan didn't act any differently than Piccolo here, really.
I'm re-watching Dragon Ball GT in full on my blog. Check it out if you're interested in my thoughts on the series as I watch through it!
- Polyphase Avatron
- Born 'n Bred Here
- Posts: 6643
- Joined: Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:48 am
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
If a villain is a clear and present danger, it's not a smart idea to let him dictate the terms of the battle. If you can win, you should do so. It's like in those stories where the hero catches the bad guy and has him dead to rights, but the bad guy says "put down your gun and fight me like a man" and the hero stupidly agrees. That always annoys me.
Cool stuff that I upload here because Youtube will copyright claim it: https://vimeo.com/user60967147
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
Another thing I was wondering, what is up with all the Raditz hate?
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
I am actually also confused by this, but I think it's just because TFS mocks him.Kid Buu wrote:Another thing I was wondering, what is up with all the Raditz hate?
I'm re-watching Dragon Ball GT in full on my blog. Check it out if you're interested in my thoughts on the series as I watch through it!
- KentalSSJ6
- Born 'n Bred Here
- Posts: 6473
- Joined: Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:03 am
- Location: Chicago, Illinois.
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
Yeah, I think Nappa, Yamcha, Popo, and Raditz have been forever changed by TFS.Saiga wrote:I am actually also confused by this, but I think it's just because TFS mocks him.Kid Buu wrote:Another thing I was wondering, what is up with all the Raditz hate?
Cant wait to see what they do with Broly.
Deviantart (NSFW) - http://yamato012.deviantart.com/
DBSW Group Page - http://dbsw.deviantart.com/
Still the 1k Sniper - [spoiler]http://orig10.deviantart.net/6a02/f/201 ... 8npe7r.png[/spoiler]
DBSW Group Page - http://dbsw.deviantart.com/
Still the 1k Sniper - [spoiler]http://orig10.deviantart.net/6a02/f/201 ... 8npe7r.png[/spoiler]
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
That's actually pretty annoying; Raditz didn't even do anything wrong. He only lost because of Gohan's attack, and no one was aware of Gohan's hidden potential at that point.Saiga wrote:I am actually also confused by this, but I think it's just because TFS mocks him.Kid Buu wrote:Another thing I was wondering, what is up with all the Raditz hate?
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
- RandomGuy96
- Kicks it Old-School
- Posts: 8881
- Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:57 pm
- Location: San Diego, California, USA
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
Errr, I've actually always mocked Raditz, before I even knew TFS was a thing. I'm sure others have as well. There are many reasons why:Kid Buu wrote:That's actually pretty annoying; Raditz didn't even do anything wrong. He only lost because of Gohan's attack, and no one was aware of Gohan's hidden potential at that point.Saiga wrote:I am actually also confused by this, but I think it's just because TFS mocks him.Kid Buu wrote:Another thing I was wondering, what is up with all the Raditz hate?
-Being about as strong as a Saibaman. When the villains can literally grow beings as strong as you... you're kind of pathetic. The only thing more pathetic is actually losing to one of those plants.
-He's the weakest villain in all of Z, not counting the Saibamen and a few filler scenes. That makes him easy to mock by default.
-He gets taken out by two guys way weaker than him. Also, he has a really easily exploitable weakness the more respectable saiyans don't have.
-He has stupid hair.
-This is a big one: he's mocked repeatedly in-universe by Vegeta and Nappa.
Also, I don't think TFS's take on Yamcha has changed much. There's a REASON Yamcha's pathetic death was a meme.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
Eh; strength-related stuff never really bothered me so his status as the weakest villain in "Z" never really bothered me. He was still getting his job done, and only really lost because of Gohan's rage-attack which came out of nowhere. The only villains I actually had a problem were the Cell arc ones, and that is because either A) they just drive around all day with no real motive like the Androids or B) are so self-sabotaging they actually hold the heroes hand in battle like Cell did with Gohan.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
- ABED
- Namekian Warrior
- Posts: 20498
- Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:23 am
- Location: Sarasota, FL
- Contact:
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
Vegeta also got taken down by opponents weaker than him, and you are forgetting Gohan, so that makes three. Also, Buu got taken down by opponents weaker than him.
Raditz was the strongest being Goku had ever seen to that point in the show, as short lived as it was.
Raditz was the strongest being Goku had ever seen to that point in the show, as short lived as it was.
The biggest truths aren't original. The truth is ketchup. It's Jim Belushi. Its job isn't to blow our minds. It's to be within reach.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take - Wayne Gretzky" - Michael Scott
Happiness is climate, not weather.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take - Wayne Gretzky" - Michael Scott
Happiness is climate, not weather.
- MediaFanGirl93
- Beyond Newbie
- Posts: 283
- Joined: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:43 pm
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
Here are my unpopular opinions:
- Teen Gohan is too overrated (although I like him). I like Adult Gohan in the Buu Saga a lot better than Teen/Kid Gohan because he's a happier person and he gets to have a normal life.
- I love the Cell & Buu Saga. The Saiyan and Frieza Saga are my least favorite Sagas.
- I dislike Broly and I think he's overrated. I think he's the worst villain of the series along with Emperor Pilaf.
- I think Bulma is the most overrated female character and I like Android 18,Chi-Chi, and Videl more than her.
- Future Trunks to me is the best male character along with Gohan.
- I dislike Fat Buu.
- Vegeta should have gone Super Saiyan 3 in the Buu Saga with Goku instead of Gotenks unfairly being able to do it. I dislike Gotenks because he had so much power and decided to act like an annoying twerp instead (no offense to people who like him).
- I think Goku and Chi-Chi are okay parents because they at least try to do what's best for their kids. They may not be getting any Parents of The Year awards, but they are far from being bad (how the fandom makes them out to be). They won't win "Worst Parents of the Year" either (you know "worst parents" as in the parents who are so bad, social workers have to come and take away their kids).
- Krillin is an awesome character because he at least tries to do what's right.
- Out of all the Z-Fighters, Vegeta is my least favorite. I don't think he's a bad character. He's just not one of my favorite.
- Teen Gohan is too overrated (although I like him). I like Adult Gohan in the Buu Saga a lot better than Teen/Kid Gohan because he's a happier person and he gets to have a normal life.
- I love the Cell & Buu Saga. The Saiyan and Frieza Saga are my least favorite Sagas.
- I dislike Broly and I think he's overrated. I think he's the worst villain of the series along with Emperor Pilaf.
- I think Bulma is the most overrated female character and I like Android 18,Chi-Chi, and Videl more than her.
- Future Trunks to me is the best male character along with Gohan.
- I dislike Fat Buu.
- Vegeta should have gone Super Saiyan 3 in the Buu Saga with Goku instead of Gotenks unfairly being able to do it. I dislike Gotenks because he had so much power and decided to act like an annoying twerp instead (no offense to people who like him).
- I think Goku and Chi-Chi are okay parents because they at least try to do what's best for their kids. They may not be getting any Parents of The Year awards, but they are far from being bad (how the fandom makes them out to be). They won't win "Worst Parents of the Year" either (you know "worst parents" as in the parents who are so bad, social workers have to come and take away their kids).
- Krillin is an awesome character because he at least tries to do what's right.
- Out of all the Z-Fighters, Vegeta is my least favorite. I don't think he's a bad character. He's just not one of my favorite.
- TheGmGoken
- Namekian Warrior
- Posts: 10592
- Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:19 pm
- Location: Capsule Corps
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
Vegeta got hit by a fucking Genki Dama, a KAioken x4 Kamehmeha, and a Kaioken x3 beatdown. I think that's reasonable to get beaten by weaker people and STILL put up an epic fight. Raditz got hit with ONE attack stronger than himself and it led to his death. When have Boo been taken down by someone weaker? Do you mean the Genki Dama?ABED wrote:Vegeta also got taken down by opponents weaker than him, and you are forgetting Gohan, so that makes three. Also, Buu got taken down by opponents weaker than him.
I think you should read this post then- I think Goku and Chi-Chi are okay parents because they at least try to do what's best for their kids. They may not be getting any Parents of The Year awards, but they are far from being bad (how the fandom makes them out to be). They won't win "Worst Parents of the Year" either (you know "worst parents" as in the parents who are so bad, social workers have to come and take away their kids).
But we need to agree that Ethan Mars is the WORST Parent ever.
Don't watch his son
Let his son disobey him
NEVER taught his kids to look BOTH ways before crossing the Street(Which leds to a death).
Got K.O at playground.
Have to save his son(This is where he becomes a hero) with 2 other people helping.
And when his son has only 18 hours LEFT to live.
Ethan Mars is having sex with a girl he met 2 days ago![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
.
Ethan Mars = Definition of what a true Parent should be (Wish I thought of this when we had Goku parenting threads)
- ABED
- Namekian Warrior
- Posts: 20498
- Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:23 am
- Location: Sarasota, FL
- Contact:
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
Raditz got hit by several powerful attacks, and likely had either a bruised or cracked sternum making it difficult to dodge an attack he evaded earlier. Buu fought three people that were weaker than him (goku, vegeta, and fat buu). It took three people and a wish from Porunga to stop him. You won't get an argument that Vegeta is a tough bastard, but Raditz is by no means a pushover. In comparison to where the heroes ended up, sure, but not when we first meet him.Vegeta got hit by a fucking Genki Dama, a KAioken x4 Kamehmeha, and a Kaioken x3 beatdown. I think that's reasonable to get beaten by weaker people and STILL put up an epic fight. Raditz got hit with ONE attack stronger than himself and it led to his death. When have Boo been taken down by someone weaker? Do you mean the Genki Dama?
The biggest truths aren't original. The truth is ketchup. It's Jim Belushi. Its job isn't to blow our minds. It's to be within reach.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take - Wayne Gretzky" - Michael Scott
Happiness is climate, not weather.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take - Wayne Gretzky" - Michael Scott
Happiness is climate, not weather.







