Dragonball & One Piece: A Match Made In Heaven?

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:52 pm

DemonRin wrote:
RoarkVegeta wrote:
Big Boss wrote: Uhh, no. No it wouldn't.
Dragonball wins.

Not saying One Piece is bad.
Really, in the end it's a Fan thing.

If you're personally more of a Fan of DB, DB wins, if you're personally more of a Fan of OP, then OP wins.

There is no real "Winner" here because in the end it's up to the individual person's opinion.

The winner is the guy who loves both of them as his first and second favourite anime/manga

<3

Tamagon · Post by **Tamagon** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:54 pm

Pitting One Piece characters against DBZ characters is just dumb.

With the exemption of Aokiji, Kizaru, and Smoker, even KRILLIN could annihilate anyone from One Piece.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:37 pm

Strangely, even though One Piece is better than DB, it doesn't interest me as much as DB does.

I really loved reading what I have read of OP (which is everything up the start of the Oz fight in Thriller Bark). I enjoyed reading it more than I ever enjoyed Dragonball, and it was more engaging than Dragonball ever was to me. Incredibly well organised and written story compared to Dragonball. Real "FUCK YEAH!" moments when you really root for a character, effective emotional stories, it's just brilliant. When characters have their moments that are supposed to make an impact on the audience, they did just that.

Especially in the Enies Lobby. My GOD that was better than just about all of Dragonball combined. And it keep's going and getting better without actually changing much. As DB went on it changed in pretty obvious ways, but One Piece has kept the same spirit of fun, adventure, and awesome action all the way through so far.

Of course, the fact that it was all new to me probably helped somewhat. I saw most of the Saiyan and Freeza sagas on CN, and I knew most of DB before I ever started buying the manga. The only moments that really had any actual impact on me in DB were mostly Super Buu's various moments. His grins, his casual wiping out of humanity, his "Do you... have snacks?" line which I loved because it implies that had there been snacks he wouldn't have minded spending eternity with Piccolo, Goten, and Trunks. Evil Buu's brief appearance was the same. Other than that, there's the short lead up to Cell's introduction, which I thought was well done and a good change of pace. And one line from Freeza which completely sold me on his character.

I still enjoyed reading it all of course, just nowhere near as much as reading One Piece. But like I said, kind of lost interest. After Enies Lobby came Thriller Bark, which, despite the introduction Brooke, who's fantastic, was dull compared to Enies Lobby just before it. Even though it has it's moments (loved Usopp vs Perona), I just kind of stopped reading and haven't thought about it much since, although typing this is making me want to continue.

Dragonball I could just talk about forever probably, for some reason. Maybe it's loose writing gives people more room to think up there own interpretations of things, I dunno.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:48 pm

Amigo Ten wrote:After Enies Lobby came Thriller Bark, which, despite the introduction Brooke, who's fantastic, was dull compared to Enies Lobby just before it. Even though it has it's moments (loved Usopp vs Perona), I just kind of stopped reading and haven't thought about it much since, although typing this is making me want to continue.

Definitely do. While extremely fun, many do consider the Thriller Bark arc a bit underwhelming, though I do think that's mostly because you've just come off the fantastic high that is Enies Lobby.

Trust me, it picks WAY up again after that.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:57 pm

Yeah, it did pick up once the fights got going. Anything that gets Usopp to Sogeking up is great as far as I'm concerned.

But on the subject, DB never seemed have the same highs and lows. Even the bits I look back and consider a bit weak are fine when I'm actually reading. It's usually only when thinking about DB after reading that I decided what I really liked and disliked. While reading through it, that kind of stuff rarely entered my head.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:43 am

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:Huh?

I'm confused. I don't know how "stength" matters. As long as the opposition of of relatively similar strength or other combat advantage, how does it really matter?

I think it's because the Z fighters are so strong they just go off the charts. Other than Roshi blowing up the fucking Moon, there's a fairly consistent rise in the collateral damage up to Raditz or so.

But after Vegeta threatens to blow up the Earth with his Galic Gun, there's no frame of reference anymore and the fights start suffering for it. For example, Freeza fails to blow up Namek despite being nearly 3,400 times Saiyan Saga Vegeta's strength (if you go with the Daizenshuu numbers)?

Cell claims he can blow up the solar system with his Kamehameha, but Gohan equals it with his Kamehameha. There's supposedly enough energy there to destroy two whole solar systems, and it barely ruffles the cameraman's hair?

Majin Vegeta, a Super Saiyan 2 superior to Cell, self-destructs, releasing ALL of his ki and it only makes a crater?

Does anything even happen in the Super Vegetto versus Gohan-Buu fight (aka the fight between the two strongest warriors in the whole series) that didn't happen way back in Goku versus King Piccolo?

One Piece, by comparison, is still way down in Dragonball levels where what we're being told about the characters' strength still matches up with the kind of damage they're doing. The breakdown of "show, don't tell" is probably Dragonball's biggest failing.

dchan316 · Post by **dchan316** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:59 am

fps_anth wrote:The winner is the guy who loves both of them as his first and second favourite anime/manga
<3

Holy cow, thats me. Did I just win?
#1) Dragonball
#2) OnePiece (by a small margin)
#3) doesn't really matter at this point

Scarz · Post by **Scarz** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:29 am

Rocketman wrote:One Piece, by comparison, is still way down in Dragonball levels where what we're being told about the characters' strength still matches up with the kind of damage they're doing. The breakdown of "show, don't tell" is probably Dragonball's biggest failing.

I completely agree. But to me it seems that One Piece will also follow Dragonball Z's biggest flaw, if it hasn't done so already. In the recent chapters characters are becoming freakishly stronger. (Spoiler warning for one piece fans, coming up) WhiteBeard's Devil Fruit ability was recently revealed to be some sort of Earth quake thingy. Later a marine said that WB has the power to destroy the world. SAY WHAA?! And here I thought Enel abilities was a bit too much.

Your right, One Piece characters are way bellow the power bar compared to Dragonball characters but I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to jump that line one day. Oh and that line will be when they destroy the whole freakin' planet.

And by the way Rocketman, I find your new avatar to be quite distracting. It was very difficult to read your comment without looking at chichi's cleavage. I kid, a little.

Post by **Herms** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:59 am

Scarz wrote:Your right, One Piece characters are way bellow the power bar compared to Dragonball characters but I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to jump that line one day. Oh and that line will be when they destroy the whole freakin' planet.

Well, they've kind of only got the one planet, so I don't think that will happen. Unless Oda goes for a surprising bleak ending.

Shoryuken · Post by **Shoryuken** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:39 pm

DB is easily the victors in a battle between the two (power-wise).
One Piece would trump Dragon Ball (manga/anime-wise)

If you want to talk overpowered look no further than Superman from the silver age. So mind boggling powerful than it borders on stupidity.

A battle I would like to see would be between the Dragon Ball universe and Giygas from Earthbound. Since goodness only can defeat I wonder if the Genkidama even has any effect on him although it should since he is pure evil.

ShinRogafuken · Post by **ShinRogafuken** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:03 pm

So Innagadada, DemonRin, and a few guys from Arlong Park Forums (oh yeah and I) will be doing a podcast-debate (probably uploaded on YouTube with pictures or something). I'm not trying to plug this in, because its something I'm doing based off of this thread. Anyways if you're interested please let me know because so far in this debate it looks like its going to lean towards One Piece and I want to even it out more.

Some info:
1- This isn't a "which one's better", no conclusion will be made
2- All you need is an "ok" quality microphone

jda95 · Post by **jda95** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:56 pm

One Piece is my third favorite..... please don't kill me.

dchan316 · Post by **dchan316** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:59 pm

jda95 wrote:One Piece is my third favorite..... please don't kill me.

Gyahgyahgyah, everyone's got different tastes, its fine. But if you don't mind my asking, what's #1 and #2?

jda95 · Post by **jda95** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:02 pm

dchan316 wrote:
jda95 wrote:One Piece is my third favorite..... please don't kill me.
Gyahgyahgyah, everyone's got different tastes, its fine. But if you don't mind my asking, what's #1 and #2?

Number one is of course Dragon Ball, and number two is Cardcaptor Sakura.

Don't diss it.

ShinRogafuken · Post by **ShinRogafuken** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:03 pm

jda95 wrote:
dchan316 wrote:
jda95 wrote:One Piece is my third favorite..... please don't kill me.
Gyahgyahgyah, everyone's got different tastes, its fine. But if you don't mind my asking, what's #1 and #2?
Number one is of course Dragon Ball, and number two is Cardcaptor Sakura.

Don't diss it.

Hey, at least One Piece is up there! That's good

Tamagon · Post by **Tamagon** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:12 pm

Whitebeard probably couldn't destroy the world but he could really fuck it up pretty bad.

SparkyPantsMcGee · Post by **SparkyPantsMcGee** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:12 pm

Hey do you think we will ever see a Dragonball/ One Piece Cross over game in America. Something to the effect of Battle Stadium but with just those too franchises(no Naruto...). I mean hey, Funimation has the rights to both series and has a contract with Bandai. That would be neat to see.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:51 pm

I'd be up for a Cross Epoch or plain 'ol DB/OP game. :3
(I have no interest in the DON game that came out a while back because of that third party.)
In addition to sharing Funi, DB and OP also both share Toei, which should further make things easier.

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:13 pm

Chuquita wrote: (I have no interest in the DON game that came out a while back because of that third party.)

It's actually not that bad of a game...except you're kinda right, Sasuke makes it a lot less enjoyable... >.<

dchan316 · Post by **dchan316** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:38 pm

jda95 wrote:Number one is of course Dragon Ball, and number two is Cardcaptor Sakura.

Don't diss it.

*kishishishi, niiice! I have all the Cardcaptor Sakura manga, a fun read.

I think Dragonball and OnePiece would make a really fun adventure game. It'd work better if they go with Dragonball (as opposed to Z) and they could run around different islands on one of the offbeat Grandline routes fighting hordes of zany villains. *starts sounding like a bad marketing guy...