ohaimynameiserik wrote:I'm making an assumption based off the fact that you haven't given a single reason why Clinkenbeard's is so bad or why Nadolny's is so good.
All you've said is basically "I like the old one better". And about 90% of the time, people who are into the "old" stuff, usually just don't like change and are going to hate on the new stuff simply due to the fact that it's different. It won't matter how much absolutely better Nadolny's replacement is, they're always going to say they want some "O.G. NADOLNY".
And again, this kind of argument is just bullshit that gets pulled out when you HAVE no argument. If this were true I'd be complaining about the FUNi cast as a whole, and clamoring to have Ocean back. Ocean was first, it was Ocean I watched for two seasons. Over. And over. And over. And over. Because I never missed a single re-run episode.
Yes, my initial reaction to the voice changes in S3 was "Ugh, these suck" (with the exception of Young, who was 10x better than Newstone). But then they improved, and I liked them. In fact, by and large, I think FUNi's Z dub is better than Ocean's. This is not something that a 'nostalgia based opinion' would allow.
Let's also not forget the fact that I
agreed with FUNi replacing Gohan's voice. I love Nadolny's Gohan in the Android/Cell arc, it's great there, but I was so not a fan of her kid Gohan voice. Plus, they were casting Coleen Clinkenbeard to do the role. It was awesome. I was happy.
Then I
heard it.
Now, unlike JJ I'm not arguing it's worse than Nadolny's. It's just not any better, either. Both of them are annoying and neither one works right. Kid Gohan is one of the few Ocean voices I find to be far superior to the FUNi ones, original or Kai.
Rial's Bulma, on the other hand, I would love to see go, and have Vollmer back. What I've heard of Kai Bulma is pure annoying prissy valley girl, and I just can't figure out how anyone hears anything else. It's like a pink whale in the room.
Maybe we just have a lot of people color blind to pink. >>
Kai Freeza has also been a major disappointment. I disliked their decision to change Freeza mid production right from start, largely because it was made mid production. But also because their first two major replacements were such let downs. Gohan was no where near as good as he should have been, in fact being the same as the old one, and Bulma was worse. So far, so has the new Freeza. It's been really bland and dull thus far.
But then, I'm not surprised, since it was changed so late in the game. The VA has no experience with the character and the voice and is learning on the fly. Maybe by the time Goku shows up on the planet he'll have some actual personality in the voice, and stop slipping between bored Newstone imitation and Captain Janeway impersonation every few lines.
MR.Mark wrote:jjgp1112 wrote:
Well, um, I'm glad you think that. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
I don't need to think it, I know good acting and age appropriate voices when I hear them. Your just a vocal minority that is doing a terrible job trying to back up why you think Naldony is better. I call
Nostalgia Bullshit on you good sir.
And I call "Anti-Nostalgia Bullshit" on you. You like it because it's
not Nadolny. The fact you disliked Nadolny's voice so much, and the fact it's so different than hers, is the only reason you like it.
To paraphrase ohaimynameiserik:
It won't matter how much absolutely annoying Nadolny's replacement is, they're always going to say they want some "NOT NADOLNY"
See how that works?
Hell, I see about the same thing with the new Freeza. It's more stylistically similar to the JP version, so the fact that the actual ACTING is horrible is being completely overlooked.
Again, once he's got some experience with the voice and is able to be consistent, and quits sounding quit so bored, I could see it being a good voice. But as it stands, it's just poor.
Metalwario64 wrote:I vouch for this as well guys. I'm not trying to mod, but I want to see this thread go somewhere positive!
Anyway, it seems the only known Ginyu Force recasts are for Burter and Guldo. I don't know why Guldo is being recast, as he was one of the members who weren't Sabat. I hope Jeice and Recoome are also going to be recast, and since Armstrong as retired, it's only logical that Ginyu will be recast as well, and we know it's not going to be Hebert, unfortunately breaking the chain of having Kamina be the voice of Ginyu...
I'm still pulling for Schemmel as Ginyu. It's the role he wanted in the first place, and I can see it being pretty awesome in the end. It'd also make the whole voice swapping during the body swapping less stupid sounding.
MR.Mark wrote:I appreciate the topic at hand.
Anyway, While I have no doubt Sabat with his current acting talent could pull off a better Recoome. I say recast for just the simple point of keeping variety amongst the voices. Hearing a new great non-Sabat Zarbon alone has been most refreshing.
Eh, new Zarbon's ok, but he's just not... 'smooth' enough. He doesn't have that little flare that Sabat managed. The "I'm awesome and I know it" voice. It's close, but not quite there.
Still much better than the new Dodoria was. Oi.
As for Recoome, I could see Sabat doing something well for him, but I think a new voice all together might be better. Less chance of him being drawn toward the old voice, or slipping into it, or whatever, if someone else does it. Recoome never really annoyed me, not like a few others, but it always felt off, so something new would be good.
Innagadadavida wrote:Are we talking Brooklyn Japanese to Japanese or Brooklyn English to Japanese? As in, a native Japanese speaker from Brooklyn, or a native English speaker from Brooklyn speaking Japanese? Is there really that much of a difference? I can't tell if somebody is from the south or north of Japan based on their accent in English. Although, I never tried.
This is fucking stupid. It's another useless, stupid, pointless post by Goku100xKamehameha. Why are we talking about this?
For some reason I think there would be a noticable difference between a native English speaker with a Brooklyn accent speaking Japanese and a native Japanese speaker with a Brooklyn accent. I'm not sure why, though. I do know, however, that I would love to hear both.
She/Her 
Also, as I've noticed more and more as time went on, he is continuing to lose more and more of the "Newstone/Young impression" in his voice, and I think that now he has finally, as I assumed he would, made the role his own. I love how he sounds so gentlemanly!
