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Hi Derek! Here's something I think it could be helpful for your research:DerekPadula wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 6:51 pm Thank you, Son Gokuu. I've seen a lot of debate from fans in Spain about their releases. It seems like there is confusion or misinformation surrounding the subject.
Oh, good site. I didn't know it.Tian wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:26 pmHi Derek! Here's something I think it could be helpful for your research:DerekPadula wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 6:51 pm Thank you, Son Gokuu. I've seen a lot of debate from fans in Spain about their releases. It seems like there is confusion or misinformation surrounding the subject.
https://eldoblajeenandalucia.webnode.es ... agon-ball/
While it is mainly about the Castillian Spanish dub, it also mentions some stuff about the other dubs from Spain.
You're welcome, Derek. I am looking forward to your next book.DerekPadula wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 9:53 pm Thanks, Tian. That article looks comprehensive, and I'll be sure to review it and the whole site later.
You're welcome!
You mean dubbing credits? If so, you can find the Catalan dubbing cast & crew info in the following page:Dragon ball master wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:23 pm Does anybody have any more information about the credits
All I know about this is that it's from the Catalan dub and the vhs recording came from Canal 33 in 1991
I mean, as far as the manga is concerned, yeah, some of the names are weird, but by and large the translation in the Outland release is good. I did notice some mistranslations especially around the Vegeta arc (the explanations for what Kaioken did were rather off, for the most obvious thing) but honestly, by and large it was still way better than Schibsted, and probably also better than Viz. And Super is definitely better than Viz so far, but then so far its competition is pre- Caleb Cook Viz DBS, which, uh... the Viz translation of Super was pretty dubious until Caleb Cook took over translation duties.DerekPadula wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 9:53 pm Thanks, Vegard. Sorry to hear about the low-quality releases in Norway. It must be frustrating that they change the names, but at least the overall trend is improving. That last bit about the F-bombs made me laugh. Reminds me of the American fan-subs from the late '90s where they added a lot of curse words to make the series feel more adult and edgy.
It was a big thing from what I was told. Many Czechs fondly remember watching it on RTL II in German.Basaku wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:11 am Looking through Czech and Slovak sections - did DB actually got popular among the kids there in the early 2000s? Sure, Polish is similar but it's still not the same language + not everyone had satellite/cable access to RTL7 so curious if it actually got a lot of viewiership among schoolkids back in the day
We did watch RTL II mostly and later RTL 7 as well. But it was not as widespread, as mainly anime fans were watching foreign TV channels.Basaku wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:11 am Looking through Czech and Slovak sections - did DB actually got popular among the kids there in the early 2000s? Sure, Polish is similar but it's still not the same language + not everyone had satellite/cable access to RTL7 so curious if it actually got a lot of viewiership among schoolkids back in the day
Are you sure the French dub on RTL2 didn't air before the ocean dub?Platypus wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 5:38 pm Here are some corrections to the anime part of the Belgium entry:
"Dragon Ball Z first aired on December 17, 2001 on the Kanaal 2 network (now known as 2BE)."
2BE is now called VTM 2.
"It as [sic] the Ocean dub,"
It started as the Ocean dub, but switched to the Funimation dub during the Ginyu part of the Namek saga.
"[...] and it continued into the early portion of the Cell Arc."
They stopped airing after the conclusion of the Cell Games. After this, Dragon Ball was never shown on Belgian TV again (at least not on any Flemish TV channels; I'm not sure about the French speaking TV channels).
I guess I should've mentioned I was only talking about Dragon Ball on Flemish TV. I don't know anything about the history of DB on the French speaking channels.sangofe wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:21 pm Are you sure the French dub on RTL2 didn't air before the ocean dub?
It may have been because the Westwood dub had just started being recorded around that time, or at least for the majority of the cast. There was lots of rumours throughout 2000 from sites of the time like Planetnamek about the Ocean cast somehow returning to the series, but Funimation were denying it probably because they were still sending Ocean their raw video, music tracks and scripts and in doing so NDAs had to be signed. The earliest official confirmation that the Ocean cast were returning to Dragon Ball Z came from VegettoEX's old site on May 19, 2000:ThunderPX wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:37 amIt seems somewhat strange that we would start getting the Westwood dub for just three episodes before rerun hell set in
I guess I should mention at this juncture this timeframe throws into doubt the decades old rumour that the Westwood dub was created because fans outside the US were unhappy with the cast change during season 3 as by most fan recollections those episodes didn't premiere in the UK until late summer or early autumn 2000 and Dragon Ball Z hadn't even started in the Netherlands by this point. An argument could be made for Canada, because, as I recall Episode 54 aired there in early 2000 although YTV never reran episodes 108-167 with the Westwood episodes, which suggests it wasn't enough of a priority for them to bring the old cast back. I still think the most likely explanation for why the Westwood dub was created is because Funimation was charging a bomb in royalties for their own dub and international territories wanted a cheaper alternative, which is backed up by the fact that in the UK and Ireland CNX initially premiered the Fusion saga with the Funimation dub but after a few reruns switched back to Westwood.- 19 May 2000; 10:37 pm EST - I'm sure everyone's (by now) checked out Brian Drummond's e-mail, as first seen on The Brian Drummond Mini-Shrine. It appears Mr. Drummond was called in to do some recordings for.. *gasp* .. DBZ!! So with that in mind, I asked myself, "Self.. if Drummond might be coming back, how about Mr. Corlett? You have his e-mail address. Drop him a line!" So I did. And he got back to me this very evening (I sent the e-mail before I went to work.. this guy's good o_O). Guess what? He was contacted, too. Unfortunately, it was a bit disappointing, but it's good to see that Mr. Corlett's not taking any shit from anyone, still. Check out the e-mail by clicking here. As for future updates... eh... I'll get to them. Got an English project to finish up this weekend, I'm and working all day tomorrow and Sunday. I've got the mailbag done... that'll be up soon ^^
Unfortunately it appears that link is dead, but thanks to Dark Vegeta-Sama its been archived. In fact, Ian James Corlett stated the next day he was aware of the dubbing of Dragon Ball Z returning to Vancouver, although it's possible at that time Ocean/Westwood were still awaiting deals to be approved for AB Groupe to distribute their dub in Europe and for all the necessary materials to arrive in Canada.14 October 2000: Ocean Cast to return to the dub? Hmmm...wishful thinking, maybe.
Jon: By now I'd say that it's safe to say that everyone's seen the posts on "Planet Namek" regarding the impending return of the former cast. While there's probably no bigger fan of some of the former cast than I (Let's face it, they're a tough act to follow), keeping my somewhat skeptic distance was a good choice. Most members of the current cast had absolutley no idea about this. When informed by me though, they seemed none too pleased. To quote Sonny Strait, current voice of Krillin;
"Ok, I don't want to cast aspersions and say that someone's bullshittting the fans but I just talked to Chris and he said it was COMPLETE bullshit."
He goes on to state that FUNimation will be scheduling another set of auditions for the Buu saga, and that doing so would be a waste of money if they were to suddenly hire back the old cast. As many of you may recall, Brian Drummond pulled this kind of thing back around June-July this last summer, and absolutley nothing came from it. When I asked Chris Sabat and Gen Fukunaga what it was about (the previous incident in Jun-July), they basically told me that it was either a reunion or for a YTV promotion. Ian Corlett had also been offered for the same thing in June-July, but basically gave us the same tired speach about "Yes I was offered, but I've got a writing career now and blah blah blah." The difference in this case is that the former announcer for Dragonball Z's dub, Doc Harris, has also been quoted that he's returning to voice the show.
"Just thought you should know: the DBZ tracks are going to be done in Vancouver again, starting next week. I'll be back narrating, and most of the old cast will be reassembled for the series.
Spread the word!"
Q: What was it like when you and the rest of Ocean Group had heard FUNimation was moving to Texas, and the parts would be recast?
A: We were all disappointed, but we knew they were probably trying to save money and keep their project in a more convenient location, since that's where FUNimation is based. Dragon Ball Z started recording here in Vancouver again in 2000, and I enjoyed some more Gohan that year.
The old UKDB site apparently had lots of interviews with the Ocean cast between 2000 and 2003 and documented everything we know about the Westwood dub. I documented the few I could find on the Wayback Machine but I'd love to read more, especially from those early days of the Westwood dub where it was especially rushed.Q: A lot of talk went on saying you had to stopping voicing Gohan in the Cell Saga because of "stress-related causes", this wasn't the case, was it?
A: That's funny, I've heard that comment too. No, I didn't stop voicing Gohan because of stress or exhaustion or anything like that. The only thing that was stressful was the timing of my wedding! We'd planned it for months and months, before Dragon Ball Z even came back, and in order to work around my husband's availability (he's a baseball player), some immigration business (he's American) and to get our families together....... We couldn't change our wedding date when the producers decided they'd need me for a few days in January/Feb 2001. So we recorded as many episodes as possible by the end of 2000, and then they auditioned new talent for Gohan so they could continue with someone whose schedule they wouldn't need to work around.
Assuming you mean Episode 150 in edited numbering that makes a lot of since as it was the final episode of what was the Imperfect Cell saga in the UK when Trunks fight ends and the Cell games were announced. From what I've heard the Netherlands were also importing materials from Cartoon Network UK. As I recall the Cell Games began in the UK in September 2001, although for some reason Cartoon Network used Imperfect Cell art for the promo art in their magazines of the time. Maybe because they thought it looked cool and would be good for marketing purposes:ThunderPX wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:37 amThe next time the show went into rerun hell is after episode 150, iirc, so I may have been thinking of that instead.
