The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:50 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:base Future Trunks (post-1st day RoSaT) vs. 70% Freeza
Base Trunks with some effort
Sandubadear wrote:Mutaito vs Grandpa Gohan
Raspberry vs. King Chappa
- Mutaito
- Raspberry stomps
Sandubadear wrote:Isn't Raspberry really weak?
As far as DBZ standards go, by the time the Namek arc began, yes, Raspberry is quite weak. But he would stomp damn near everyone, pre-Raditz.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sandubadear » Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:02 pm

Inside my head, Raspberry is even weaker than Roshi..
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:12 pm

Sandubadear wrote:Inside my head, Raspberry is even weaker than Roshi..
He still stomps Chappa.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:15 pm

Bojack (base form), Perfect Cell, Dabra and SSJ Majin Vegeta vs. SSJ Gohan (Cell Games), SSJ Goku (Buu arc), Kaioshin and Paikuhan.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:19 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:Bojack (base form), Perfect Cell, Dabra and SSJ Majin Vegeta vs. SSJ Gohan (Cell Games), SSJ Goku (Buu arc), Kaioshin and Paikuhan.
SSJ Gohan, SSJ Goku, and Paikuhan get trashed horribly with their corpses destroyed by Majin Boo.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:48 pm

Super Saiyan potara fusion of Goten and Trunks* vs. Super Saiyan 2 or 3 Gogeta

Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (pre-Majin) vs. SPC**

(*Kids are post-RoSaT.)
(**Cell has no regeneration.)
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sandubadear » Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:54 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Super Saiyan potara fusion of Goten and Trunks vs. Super Saiyan 2 or 3 Gogeta

Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (pre-Majin) vs. SPC*

(*Cell has no regeneration.)
In my sincere opinion, SS1 Gogeta > SS1 Trunkten, but of course I'm the only one who thinks that way :silent:

If Cell has no regeneration, then Vegeta uses his Final Flash and wins.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:55 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Super Saiyan potara fusion of Goten and Trunks vs. Super Saiyan 2 or 3 Gogeta

Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (pre-Majin) vs. SPC*

(*Cell has no regeneration.)
Trunten takes this.

Super Perfect Cell wins as Vegeta being in SSJ2 Kid Gohan tier kinda takes away from Piccolo's statement as well as Vegeta's.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:56 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Super Saiyan potara fusion of Goten and Trunks vs. Super Saiyan 2 or 3 Gogeta

Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (pre-Majin) vs. SPC*

(*Cell has no regeneration.)
Trunten wins with slight effort.

SSJ2 Vegeta wins with effort. He was stronger than SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games).
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:57 pm

post-RoSaT, I should've specified.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:04 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
In Brightest Day wrote:Bojack (base form), Perfect Cell, Dabra and SSJ Majin Vegeta vs. SSJ Gohan (Cell Games), SSJ Goku (Buu arc), Kaioshin and Paikuhan.
SSJ Gohan, SSJ Goku, and Paikuhan get trashed horribly with their corpses destroyed by Majin Boo.
I have no clue what this means.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:17 pm

You know what, I'm bored. No one is selling me the capsules I want from the general sales/trades thread. So here's some match-ups to brighten me up. lol

SSJ Bardock (Episode of Bardock Movie) VS Vegeta (Post-Recoome Zenkai)

SSJ3 Goku (in Other World body) VS Pre-Split Fat Buu (with SSJ2 Majin Vegeta and Piccolo absorbed)-- no candy beams or any more absorbing

TV Special Base Young Future Trunks (post-Gohan training but pre-SSJ transformation) VS Cell Games Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu (No Tribeams or Kienzans)

Android 13 VS Android 19 and 20 (no absorbing)

USSJ Future Trunks (Post-2nd day ROSAT) VS SSJ Broly (Movie 10)
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by singsing » Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:17 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Super Saiyan potara fusion of Goten and Trunks vs. Super Saiyan 2 or 3 Gogeta

Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (pre-Majin) vs. SPC*

(*Cell has no regeneration.)
Trunten wins with slight effort.

SSJ2 Vegeta wins with effort. He was stronger than SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games).
I feel Vegeta was weaker than Gohan up until Majin. After all, he said the gap between him and Goku hadn't changed, and that gap at the CG was HUGEEEE. And then there's Goku barely being stronger than SSJ2 Gohan.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:35 pm

Angelus wrote:b]SSJ Bardock[/b] (Episode of Bardock Movie) VS Vegeta (Post-Recoome Zenkai)
Bardock wins
SSJ3 Goku (in Other World body) VS Pre-Split Fat Buu (with SSJ2 Majin Vegeta and Piccolo absorbed)-- no candy beams or any more absorbing
It'd be close but Goku could pull it off.
Base Young Future Trunks (post-Gohan training but pre-SSJ transformation) VS Cell Games Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu (No Tribeams or Kienzans)
His SSJ form was below base Gohan, who's in turn weaker than Krillin and Tenshinhan, so the team wins.
Android 13 VS Android 19 and 20 (no absorbing)
13 stomps.
USSJ Future Trunks (Post-2nd day ROSAT) VS SSJ Broly (Movie 10)
Broly one shots
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Post by Angelus » Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:44 pm

I should have specified that it would be the TV Special trunks.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Pantalones » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:04 am

SSJ3 Goku (in Other World body) VS Pre-Split Fat Buu (with SSJ2 Majin Vegeta and Piccolo absorbed)-- no candy beams or any more absorbing
Hmm... hard to say. SSj2 Vegeta should be about a quarter of SSj3 Goku's power since they were evenly matched in SSj2, and Piccolo shouldn't be too far off from an eighth. Buu can't be too close to SSj2 Vegeta considering how badly he beat him, and how he managed to survive his final attack (which should be way more powerful than what Vegeta's level would've been during the fight leading up to it)... so it all depends on just how big of a gap there is between Fat Buu and SSj3 Goku to begin with, I guess.

SSj3 Goku = 8
Fat Buu = 5
SSj2 Vegeta = 2
Piccolo = 1 (...okay probably closer to 0.75 or 0.6 or something, since he's weaker than the adult Super Saiyans, but let's round up just for convenience)

Assuming their power levels compare like that, the resulting "Super Fat Buu" would be an 8 on that scale (or slightly under considering Piccolo being weaker than the Super Saiyans.) So yeah, Goku would be able to win but it would be tough, very similar to his battle with Kid Buu, he'd need to power up to his maximum for a huge blast that would completely destroy Buu with no possibility of regeneration.

If Fat Buu's any closer to Goku's level than that, Goku might not be able to pull it off with just the "SSj3+huge full-power blast" method. A massive Genki Dama (or waiting for Ultimate/Mystic Gohan or SSj3 Gotenks to show up and finish the fight for him) would be the only way.
Base Young Future Trunks (post-Gohan training but pre-SSJ transformation) VS Cell Games Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu (No Tribeams or Kienzans)
Tribeams and Kienzans? :lolno: That wimpy version of Trunks' only chance is if you don't even allow the humans to use ordinary punches and kicks, and even then he might hurt himself punching Tenshinhan and Krillin before they poke, slap, and chest-bump him into submission. One of those two beats him one-on-one with basically no effort while Yamcha, Chiaotzu, and whichever of the two bald guys isn't busy beating the crap out of Trunks fly to the nearest city to get some take-out for everyone's lunch once this joke of a fight is over.

If it's TV Special version (weaker than the Gohan who's weaker than Goku was vs. Freeza, but not to an absurd degree) rather than manga version (so weak his Super Saiyan self is on par with Gohan's base form), I'd still say that Krillin or Tenshinhan can beat him easily even without using their super-moves. I think those two at least kept up with the base Saiyans through the beginning of the Android saga (which would all be much stronger than that Trunks), only being left behind when the Saiyans all started getting massive boosts from "year-in-a-day" training and mastering Super Saiyan. Yamcha, however, would still probably lose (though not without putting up at least a bit of a fight, probably catching him off guard with the Sokidan or something) and Chiaotzu wouldn't be able to do much.
Android 13 VS Android 19 and 20 (no absorbing)
#19 and #20 have no chance whatsoever against #13 if they can't absorb his energy. #13 seems to be a good bit stronger than either #14 or #15 considering that he didn't get overpowered when Goku went Super Saiyan unlike the other two--and even #15 wasn't too far off from Vegeta (managing to knock him out of Super Saiyan in their final clash when #15 got destroyed), who could easily destroy either #19 or #20 if they didn't drain him too much first (and proved he could easily destroy #19 even after being drained.)

Honestly #19 and #20 probably couldn't pull it off even if they were allowed to absorb energy, unless #13 did something really stupid like firing loads of powerful ki blasts at them both before even trying to attack physically.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:22 am

I never realized that base Future Trunks was that shitty. Maybe that's why Gohan had him use a sword. :lol:

Oh. I thought 19 and 20 were Android arc SSJ lower tiers. I actually thought they'd be able to pull it off because 13 is significantly weaker than either 17 or 18. Ah well.

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:19 am

SSJ2 Gotenks post vs. Redjic

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Post by Hugo Boss » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:47 am

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:SSJ2 Gotenks post vs. Redjic
I suppose Redjic is weaker than Majin Boo, since his power was not worth commenting like Rilldo. Then, I think even SS Gotenks takes this.

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In Brightest Day wrote:Bojack (base form), Perfect Cell, Dabra and SSJ Majin Vegeta vs. SSJ Gohan (Cell Games), SSJ Goku (Buu arc), Kaioshin and Paikuhan.
Perfect Cell and Dabra stomp everyone in their path. Backup from Bojack and SSJ Majin Vegeta just makes the job easier.
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Super Saiyan potara fusion of Goten and Trunks* vs. Super Saiyan 2 or 3 Gogeta

Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (pre-Majin) vs. SPC**

(*Kids are post-RoSaT.)
(**Cell has no regeneration.)
- SSJ2 Gogeta wins with effort. But SSJ3 Gogeta outright stomps Potara Trunten.
- SSJ2 Vegeta stomps
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:SSJ2 Gotenks post vs. Redjic
SSJ2 Gotenks stomps
Angelus wrote:You know what, I'm bored. No one is selling me the capsules I want from the general sales/trades thread. So here's some match-ups to brighten me up. lol

SSJ Bardock (Episode of Bardock Movie) VS Vegeta (Post-Recoome Zenkai)

SSJ3 Goku (in Other World body) VS Pre-Split Fat Buu (with SSJ2 Majin Vegeta and Piccolo absorbed)-- no candy beams or any more absorbing

TV Special Base Young Future Trunks (post-Gohan training but pre-SSJ transformation) VS Cell Games Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu (No Tribeams or Kienzans)

Android 13 VS Android 19 and 20 (no absorbing)

USSJ Future Trunks (Post-2nd day ROSAT) VS SSJ Broly (Movie 10)
- Vegeta stomps
- SSJ3 Goku wins with quite a lot of effort
- Future Trunks wins comfortably
- Either Android 19 or 20 stomps with ease
- If speed is non factor, than USSJ Future Trunks wins. But if speed is a factor, then Broly takes this.
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