Lets make it easy. Cold is as strong ad the plot needs him to be. So if is above SPc then the plot needs him to be. If He about surpress Cell then the plot needs himKentalSSJ6 wrote:Ehh..I think thats abit much.RandomGuy96 wrote:Assuming he was using a similar level of power as Freeza was when he first transformed (why wouldn't he? His third form was already slightly stronger than Cooler and way stronger than Videl), it's more like 100% Cold >>> Super Perfect Cell.
If I had to be generous id have to say 100% Cold = Suppressed Perfect Cell.
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I think Salagir is going by the line from Tenshinhan and Vegeta where reference King Cold as being even more powerful than Frieza which I'm pretty sure that was a dub line. Which made him believe that Final Form Cold would be as powerful as #16 and Imperfect Cell (post absorption). Metal Coola is likely around that level, but I don't see King Cold being that strong transform.
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Goku says that if Bardock wants to win he has to hold out until Cold burns out his power.
Remember how Freeza burned out pretty fast using 100% of his power.
Considering what Goku says is true, then if Bardock manages to take the beating, Cold will eventually become weak enough for Bardock to finish him off. Going by this, Bardock's vision may become true.
Just saying.
Remember how Freeza burned out pretty fast using 100% of his power.
Considering what Goku says is true, then if Bardock manages to take the beating, Cold will eventually become weak enough for Bardock to finish him off. Going by this, Bardock's vision may become true.
Just saying.
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True, but we dont know exactly where SSJ Bardock lies. Could be equal to Namek SSJ Goku, less than, or more for all we know.Godo wrote:Goku says that if Bardock wants to win he has to hold out until Cold burns out his power.
Remember how Freeza burned out pretty fast using 100% of his power.
Considering what Goku says is true, then if Bardock manages to take the beating, Cold will eventually become weak enough for Bardock to finish him off. Going by this, Bardock's vision may become true.
Just saying.
We also dont know if Bardock has SSJ2 or if Cold has his 5th form.
Bardock may win depending on how strong he is and if he has SSJ2, but if Cold has his 5th form, this fight is done for.
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Whoa, seriously? I guess I completely forgot the part where they mentioned this, then. (...which wouldn't be too hard to do, since I haven't really been going back and reading over older parts of the comic or anything.) I had thought that Piccolo's recent "Cold's final form is way stronger than his sons, maybe closer to the Androids" was the first power comparison we really got for him, aside from being stronger than the alternate-universe Videl.His third form was already slightly stronger than Cooler
If King Cold was stronger than Cooler already before even getting to his final form, though... yeah, they've pretty much made his power level completely ridiculous.
Well, either that or Salagir's personal power level list has everyone's power levels getting insanely high after Freeza. DBM was already pretty well established before Battle of Gods came out and confirmed that none of the base Saiyans ever surpassed 100% Freeza, after all, so there's a possibility that he has people rising up into the billions before Perfect Cell even shows up, or something equally crazy.
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He actually thinks the base Saiyans are below 100% Freeza still.
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I'm rootinf for Kold since day 1. Just curious when you read this what voices do you hear?
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Always Japanese voices.TheGmGoken wrote:I'm rootinf for Kold since day 1. Just curious when you read this what voices do you hear?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I guess Bardock's vision was the aftermath of the fight between Bra or Eleim vs King Cold rather than Bardock vs King Cold.
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There's still Ssj2 to consider if Bardock gets angry enough.
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Super Saiyan 2 Bardock would just be insulting to our intelligence. Hell, regular Super Saiyan is enough of a stretch.
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Isn't Cold being this strong already an insult? The daiz say Cold is weaker than Freeza.
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The manga already has enough implications that Freeza is stronger than Cold.FireLordZuko wrote:Isn't Cold being this strong already an insult. The daiz say Cold is weaker than Freeza.
However, I don't find Bardock getting Super Saiyan an insult. I mean, look at Goku. He wasn't born special, he worked hard & got special.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Your avatar and post remind me of TheMightyOozaru. Are you him?FireLordZuko wrote:Isn't Cold being this strong already an insult? The daiz say Cold is weaker than Freeza.
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If he was, wouldn't the mods or admins have noticed that? And even if he was, you really expect him to say that it's him?DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Your avatar and post remind me of TheMightyOozaru. Are you him?FireLordZuko wrote:Isn't Cold being this strong already an insult? The daiz say Cold is weaker than Freeza.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Ain't he banned? Isn't it impossible for him to make an account? Unless he moves to a new IP. Couldn't you just ASK through PM?DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Your avatar and post remind me of TheMightyOozaru. Are you him?FireLordZuko wrote:Isn't Cold being this strong already an insult? The daiz say Cold is weaker than Freeza.
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There's a way to get around an IP address. No, I wouldn't expect him to say he is TheMightyOzaru. Even if he says he's not him, I would remain very suspicious.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:If he was, wouldn't the mods or admins have noticed that? And even if he was, you really expect him to say that it's him?DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Your avatar and post remind me of TheMightyOozaru. Are you him?FireLordZuko wrote:Isn't Cold being this strong already an insult? The daiz say Cold is weaker than Freeza.
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There's a way to get around an IP address. No, I wouldn't expect him to say he is TheMightyOzaru. Even if he says he's not him, I would remain very suspicious.[/quote]DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:If he was, wouldn't the mods or admins have noticed that? And even if he was, you really expect him to say that it's him?
Either way, it's not our job to find out if he is or not. That's what the mods & admins are here for.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Well its not your job to ask in threads. Take it to PM please.