The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:35 am

Alright here's some fresh versus! :D


Anime Southern Supreme Kai VS SSJ3 Goku (in his Other World body)

Post-ROSAT SSJ Goten VS Dabura (no spitting)

Recoome VS Dore (no Ki attacks, flying, or armor for both)

Cyborg Tao VS Vegeta (Saiyan Saga, weakened and crawling towards his space pod)

Eastern Supreme Kai (no paralysis/materialization magic) VS SSJ Bardock (Episode of Bardock) dressed up in Goku's bloodstained clothes, with a permanent "M" Majin tatoo on his forehead, makeup to darken the edges of his eyes, and professionally drawn on bulging veins all over his body, a voice-alteration necklace that makes him sound extra demonic, file-sharpened teeth, and his clothing will be made of fabric that creates visible static with every move

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZazamPow » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:50 am

Anime Southern Supreme Kai VS SSJ3 Goku (in his Other World body)
SS Kai hasn't really been seen enough to give us a full idea of his abilities. We know that he held his own against Kid Buu to the point where Buu instinctively absorbed him, but all we actually saw was three seconds of their battle. We know that Goku can at least hold his own with Kid Buu too, so by feats he should win, although it's not impossible for SS Kai to actually be stronger than him.
Post-ROSAT SSJ Goten VS Dabura (no spitting)
Goten and Trunks are Full-Power Super Saiyans, the same as Goku and Gohan in the Cell Games, and we know that neither of them stood a chance against Cell when he was at full power. Goten did provide a challenging sparring partner for Adult Gohan, but considering Adult Gohan was even weaker than as a kid, the gap between Goten and Kid Gohan is quite large, meaning the gap between Goten and Cell is even larger. I don't think that their limited amount of time in the ROSAT was nearly enough to bring him on Cell's level, and Dabura is at least just as strong as Cell.
Recoome VS Dore (no Ki attacks, flying, or armor for both)
Dore stomps. Reccoom got oneshotted by pre-Zenkai Goku holding back, Dore caught post-Freeza Goku's kick and briefly put him in a submission hold.
Cyborg Tao VS Vegeta (Saiyan Saga, weakened and crawling towards his space pod)
I have to imagine that damn near anyone could have beaten Vegeta at that point. When it's said that Saiyans need to be near death for a Zenkai to occur, people often underestimate just what near death really means.
Eastern Supreme Kai (no paralysis/materialization magic) VS SSJ Bardock (Episode of Bardock) dressed up in Goku's bloodstained clothes, with a permanent "M" Majin tatoo on his forehead, makeup to darken the edges of his eyes, and professionally drawn on bulging veins all over his body, a voice-alteration necklace that makes him sound extra demonic, file-sharpened teeth, and his clothing will be made of fabric that creates visible static with every move
ES Kai takes the biggest shit, before realizing his opponent is substantially weaker than the guy he claimed he could kill with one blow. ES Kai firmly stomps from there.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sandubadear » Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:20 am

Semi-Perfect Cell vs Yamhan
Perfect Cell vs Yamhan
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:25 am

What's a Yamhan? :wtf:

Yamcha+ Gohan or Tien? Potara or Fusion Dance?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sandubadear » Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:28 am

Angelus wrote:What's a Yamhan? :wtf:

Yamcha+ Gohan or Tenshinhan? Potara or Fusion Dance?
Tien + Yamcha Fusion.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:36 am

Oh. Well... both Cells beat Yamha. The way I see it, the humans aren't even in 100% Frieza's league. Doing a fusion dance isn't going to bridge that gap to bring them to Semi-Perfect Cell's level.

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:54 pm

Metal Cooler (hax) vs. warming up suppression Perfect Cell

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:01 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Metal Cooler (hax) vs. warming up suppression Perfect Cell
Metal Cooler's strong enough to one-shot who I consider to be Kamiccolo. I think that puts him in the range of the Imperfect Cell who did the same thing and 16.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by singsing » Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:06 pm

CG Trunks vs CG Piccolo

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:13 pm

singsing wrote:CG Trunks vs CG Piccolo
Trunks wins fairly easily. He and Vegeta were said to be the only ones holding there own against the Cell jr.'s.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by singsing » Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:38 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
singsing wrote:CG Trunks vs CG Piccolo
Trunks wins fairly easily. He and Vegeta were said to be the only ones holding there own against the Cell jr.'s.
Wasn't Piccolo also shown to be holding his own?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:41 pm

singsing wrote:CG Trunks vs CG Piccolo
Trunks is undisputedly stronger, but he wins with high difficulty, in my opinion.
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singsing wrote:CG Trunks vs CG Piccolo
Trunks wins fairly easily. He and Vegeta were said to be the only ones holding there own against the Cell jr.'s.
Chapter: 407 (DBZ 213), P5.3
Context: as the Cell Juniors beat everyone up
Cell (to Gohan): "If you don't show your true worth soon, things will go past the point of no return, Look closely. Vegeta or Trunks are barely fighting evenly... Even Son Goku is trouble, having lost stamina..."
Note: Cell says that "Vegeta ya Trunks" are fighting evenly; ya is a non exhaustive word for 'and' meaning the things listed aren't necessarily the only things there are to list. In other words, Cells' s line doesn't necessarily mean nobody but Trunks and Vegeta are fighting evenly, juet they're the first examples to come to mind.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:20 pm

Boo Saga Chi-Chi runs the gauntlet

As many of us know, Goten's teacher in fighting was not Gohan or Vegeta but Chi-Chi herself. Likely cuz of Goku's death and in honor of his memories, she took the initiative to train the boy. How much do you think she's improved since the last she fought? Her last officially recorded PL (Power Level) was 130.

1. Cymbal
2. Tambourine
3. BoZ Yamcha
4. Maxed out Muten Roshi
5. 22nd Budokai Tenshinhan
6. Drum
7. Cyborg Tao
8. Shen/Hero (possessed by Kami)
9. Piccolo Daimao (young)
10. 23rd Budokai Goku (this Goku would fare better than BoZ Goku since he wouldn't any particular qualms in upsetting or hurting Chi-Chi)
11. Saiyan Saga Chaozu (Kami's training)
12. Saiyan Saga Yajirobe (Kami's training)

How far does she go? Add in tougher opponents if you think she runs the entire gauntlet.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Post by Sandubadear » Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:26 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Boo Saga Chi-Chi runs the gauntlet

As many of us know, Goten's teacher in fighting was not Gohan or Vegeta but Chi-Chi herself. Likely cuz of Goku's death and in honor of his memories, she took the initiative to train the boy. How much do you think she's improved since the last she fought? Her last officially recorded PL (Power Level) was 130.

1. Cymbal
2. Tambourine
3. BoZ Yamcha
4. Maxed out Muten Roshi
5. 22nd Budokai Tenshinhan
6. Drum
7. Cyborg Tao
8. Shen/Hero (possessed by Kami)
9. Piccolo Daimao (young)
10. 23rd Budokai Goku (this Goku would fare better than BoZ Goku since he wouldn't any particular qualms in upsetting or hurting Chi-Chi)
11. Saiyan Saga Chaozu (Kami's training)
12. Saiyan Saga Yajirobe (Kami's training)

How far does she go? Add in tougher opponents if you think she runs the entire gauntlet.
Maybe could defeat Roshi if he isn't serious, but I don't think she can beat anyone else.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Question: Is this thread just for DBZ characters, or can their be DBZ vs. Non DBZ character fights?

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jcogginsa wrote:Question: Is this thread just for DBZ characters, or can their be DBZ vs. Non DBZ character fights?
The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Post by jcogginsa » Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:53 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
jcogginsa wrote:Question: Is this thread just for DBZ characters, or can their be DBZ vs. Non DBZ character fights?
The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Okay then.

Here's a few fights for End of Series Naruto

Vs. King Piccolo
Vs. 23rd Budokai Tien
Vs. 23rd Budokai Piccolo
Vs. 23rd Budokai Goku

w/Sasuke vs. Raditz

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Post by Angelus » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:35 pm

singsing wrote:CG Trunks vs CG Piccolo
Trunks. Piccolo was always behind the adult SSJs after the ROSAT trips. It's not going to be an easy win for Trunks but the gap in power is still significant. Imagine a full power Perfect Cell versus Goku. That's what this would look like.
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Boo Saga Chi-Chi runs the gauntlet

As many of us know, Goten's teacher in fighting was not Gohan or Vegeta but Chi-Chi herself. Likely cuz of Goku's death and in honor of his memories, she took the initiative to train the boy. How much do you think she's improved since the last she fought? Her last officially recorded PL (Power Level) was 130.

1. Cymbal
2. Tambourine
3. BoZ Yamcha
4. Maxed out Muten Roshi
5. 22nd Budokai Tenshinhan
6. Drum
7. Cyborg Tao
8. Shen/Hero (possessed by Kami)
9. Piccolo Daimao (young)
10. 23rd Budokai Goku (this Goku would fare better than BoZ Goku since he wouldn't any particular qualms in upsetting or hurting Chi-Chi)
11. Saiyan Saga Chaozu (Kami's training)
12. Saiyan Saga Yajirobe (Kami's training)

How far does she go? Add in tougher opponents if you think she runs the entire gauntlet.
I honestly don't think Chi Chi improved significantly. Goten in base alone, even untrained, is presumably leagues higher than Chi Chi. Goten was said to also turn SSJ during this training. Does this mean that Chi Chi is at a close level of Goten to push him to turn SSJ? I don't think so. Chi Chi? Anyways, to answer the gauntlet, in my opinion she may be able to beat Cymbal but will die fighting Tambourine since she would have lost a lot of power fighting Cymbal. But let's say she did improve... there's no way she's King Piccolo's or Shen's level. Maybe Drum at best.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:47 pm

Angelus wrote:I honestly don't think Chi Chi improved significantly. Goten in base alone, even untrained, is presumably leagues higher than Chi Chi. Goten was said to also turn SSJ during this training. Does this mean that Chi Chi is at a close level of Goten to push him to turn SSJ? I don't think so. Chi Chi? Anyways, to answer the gauntlet, in my opinion she may be able to beat Cymbal but will die fighting Tambourine since she would have lots a lot of power fighting Cymbal. But let's say she did improve... there's no way she's King Piccolo's or Shen's level. Maybe Drum at best.
It wasn't stated Goten turned SSJ during the training. Gohan asked when did he learn to do it, and Goten says he forgot. He probably discovered it on his own after seeing Trunks do it during one of the their play fights.

And it's not a survival gauntlet (I let you know if a gauntlet is one). She's given time to rest.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:54 pm

Oh, I guess that was filler.

Ah, then if she stayed the same like I thought she would, she gets stopped at 3. She would be at death's door if she's lucky at 2 though. If she actually improved, then she gets stopped at 6.

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