The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:06 am

Let's have a quick one for the evening:

Cell Games SSJ/ASSJ/USSJ Future Trunks with sword (MULTIPLY HIS POWER TENFOLD) VS Buu Saga SSJ3 Goku (in a living body)
[SSJ, ASSJ or USSJ, whichever you prefer for this match]

Dabura, Yakon, and Pui Pui VS Post-ROSAT Base Gotenks-- no spitting or light-eating or fighting in the dark, no fusion time limit

Full Power Perfect Cell VS Post-ROSAT Great Ape Gotenks (no fusion time limit and has full control of himself)-- no tail-cutting/grabbing

Android 15 VS SSJ Future Gohan (one-armed)

Movie 8 Suppressed SSJ Broly (this is when he was still wearing that control crown) VS 25th WMAT SSJ Gohan

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TJVY » Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:45 am

Angelus wrote:Let's have a quick one for the evening:

Cell Games SSJ/ASSJ/USSJ Future Trunks with sword (MULTIPLY HIS POWER TENFOLD) VS Buu Saga SSJ3 Goku (in a living body)
[SSJ, ASSJ or USSJ, whichever you prefer for this match]

Dabura, Yakon, and Pui Pui VS Post-ROSAT Base Gotenks-- no spitting or light-eating or fighting in the dark, no fusion time limit

Full Power Perfect Cell VS Post-ROSAT Great Ape Gotenks (no fusion time limit and has full control of himself)-- no tail-cutting/grabbing

Android 15 VS SSJ Future Gohan (one-armed)

Movie 8 Suppressed SSJ Broly (this is when he was still wearing that control crown) VS 25th WMAT SSJ Gohan
- SSJ3 Goku
- Gotenks defeats Pui Pui and Yakon, but not Dabura
- Android 15
- SSJ Gohan
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:19 am

Shisame vs Kaioshin

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:53 am

Angelus wrote:Cell Games SSJ/ASSJ/USSJ Future Trunks with sword (MULTIPLY HIS POWER TENFOLD) VS Buu Saga SSJ3 Goku (in a living body)
[SSJ, ASSJ or USSJ, whichever you prefer for this match]

Dabura, Yakon, and Pui Pui VS Post-ROSAT Base Gotenks-- no spitting or light-eating or fighting in the dark, no fusion time limit

Full Power Perfect Cell VS Post-ROSAT Great Ape Gotenks (no fusion time limit and has full control of himself)-- no tail-cutting/grabbing

Android 15 VS SSJ Future Gohan (one-armed)

Movie 8 Suppressed SSJ Broly (this is when he was still wearing that control crown) VS 25th WMAT SSJ Gohan
- SSJ3 Goku one shots
- Base Gotenks stomps
- Great Ape Gotenks crushes Cell. Literally.
- #15 wrecks Gohan
- SSJ Gohan wins
Hugo Boss wrote:Shisame vs Kaioshin
Kaioshin one shots

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:14 am

Lord Beerus wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote:Shisame vs Kaioshin
Kaioshin one shots
Care to justify your opinion?

The way I see it is that Shisame's level would be between Piccolo's and Gohan's, just like Kaioshin was in the Boo Arc. Though one could argue we don't have more than the information that Gohan defeated him to base on.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:02 am

Hugo Boss wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote:Shisame vs Kaioshin
Kaioshin one shots
Care to justify your opinion?

The way I see it is that Shisame's level would be between Piccolo's and Gohan's, just like Kaioshin was in the Boo Arc. Though one could argue we don't have more than the information that Gohan defeated him to base on.
Daizenshuu 7 states that the Supreme Kai possesses strength "far superior to the Super Namekian Piccolo". Piccolo himself say that Kaioshin is dimensions apart from him.

So...

Kaioshin >>>>>> Kamiccolo (Majin Boo arc)

Kaioshin one shots.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:14 pm

Alright, here's one more for the road:

Post-ROSAT Base Gotenks VS Pre-ROSAT Base Gotenks that can use Kaiokenx10 comfortably and continuously, not just in short bursts. No fusion time limit for both.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:48 pm

Angelus wrote:Post-ROSAT Base Gotenks VS Pre-ROSAT Base Gotenks that can use Kaiokenx10 comfortably and continuously, not just in short bursts. No fusion time limit for both.
Post-ROSAT Base Gotenks stomps.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:19 pm

Based on what we know, how well does Golden Freeza do against these characters? (in no real order):

Hirudegarn
Buuhan
SSj Vegito
General Rildo
SSj4 Goku
Super 17
Super Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenron)
Beerus
SSj4 Gogeta
Whis

Does he beat them, lose to all of them or only beat some?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:31 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Based on what we know, how well does Golden Freeza do against these characters? (in no real order):

Hirudegarn
Buuhan
SSj Vegito
General Rildo
SSj4 Goku
Super 17
Super Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenron)
Beerus
SSj4 Gogeta
Whis

Does he beat them, lose to all of them or only beat some?
Golden Freeza wrecks Hirudegarn, Buuhan, SSJ Vegito and General Rildo

Golden Freeza gives SSJ4 Goku and Super 17 a run for their money

Golden Freeza gets stomped by Super Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenron), SSJ4 Gogeta, Beerus and Whis

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by AvatarReiko » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:46 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Based on what we know, how well does Golden Freeza do against these characters? (in no real order):

Hirudegarn
Buuhan
SSj Vegito
General Rildo
SSj4 Goku
Super 17
Super Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenron)
Beerus
SSj4 Gogeta
Whis

Does he beat them, lose to all of them or only beat some?
Golden Freeza would stomp most these characters. It would be much better to use ROF 4th Form Freeza

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:53 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Based on what we know, how well does Golden Freeza do against these characters? (in no real order):

Hirudegarn
Buuhan
SSj Vegito
General Rildo
SSj4 Goku
Super 17
Super Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenron)
Beerus
SSj4 Gogeta
Whis

Does he beat them, lose to all of them or only beat some?
He beats everyone except Beerus, Whis, Omega Shenron, and SSJ4 Gogeta.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:59 pm

Actually, I've just remembered that SSJ Vegito's power apparently could rival SSJ4 Goku. Taking that into consider...

Golden Freeza wrecks Hirudegarn, Buuhan, SSJ Vegito, SSJ4 Goku, Super 17 and General Rildo

Golden Freeza gets stomped by Super Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenron), SSJ4 Gogeta, Beerus and Whis

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:51 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Actually, I've just remembered that SSJ Vegito's power apparently could rival SSJ4 Goku. Taking that into consider...

Golden Freeza wrecks Hirudegarn, Buuhan, SSJ Vegito, SSJ4 Goku, Super 17 and General Rildo

Golden Freeza gets stomped by Super Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenron), SSJ4 Gogeta, Beerus and Whis
Super Vegetto is much weaker than SS4 Goku..

SS4 Goku =< Golden Oozaru Goku >(by 10x)>> Super Baby 2 >> Super Baby 1 > Super Vegetto

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:47 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Actually, I've just remembered that SSJ Vegito's power apparently could rival SSJ4 Goku. Taking that into consider...

Golden Freeza wrecks Hirudegarn, Buuhan, SSJ Vegito, SSJ4 Goku, Super 17 and General Rildo

Golden Freeza gets stomped by Super Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenron), SSJ4 Gogeta, Beerus and Whis
Super Vegetto is much weaker than SS4 Goku..

SS4 Goku =< Golden Oozaru Goku >(by 10x)>> Super Baby 2 >> Super Baby 1 > Super Vegetto
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fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:51 pm

Baby said it not me :thumbup:

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:54 pm

Well.... he's a baby.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sandubadear » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:45 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Based on what we know, how well does Golden Freeza do against these characters? (in no real order):

Hirudegarn
Buuhan
SSj Vegito
General Rildo
SSj4 Goku
Super 17
Super Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenron)
Beerus
SSj4 Gogeta
Whis

Does he beat them, lose to all of them or only beat some?
Loses to Super Saiyan 4 Goku onward. and the order is all messed up..
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:49 pm

Well, from what I've seen from the trailers, I'd say Golden Frieza is weaker than Beerus. In the trailer, I saw Goku getting beat up by Frieza but Beerus is still significantly more powerful than SSJG Goku.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:11 am

Here's a classic versus:

SSJ Future Trunks (Pre-ROSAT, Androids Saga) with two swords VS Fifth Form Cooler, 100% Mecha Frieza, King Cold, Chilled, Kuriza, and Frieza's mother (no blowing up of planets)

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