Gyt Kaliba wrote:To chime in a little bit on the dub/sub thing myself - what we have now is nowhere near as bad as it used to be. From when I first got into DBZ, and up until...geez, I can't even remember when I first 'left' this forum. At any rate, you might notice that my join date is quite a good while ago despite my minimal (considering the join date anyway) post count for a regular poster. That's because there actually was a time where it was about impossible to be a dub fan and still come here. You would actually get browbeat out, if not publicly than by PM (which did in fact happen to me once upon a time). I say all this not to shame the past of the forum though - I just want to make a point that it's actually pretty easy-going here to be a dub fan, so long as you're at least willing to accept that it's not everyone's cup of tea. Every now and then there's gonna be some conflicts between factions of course, but that just goes with the territory. There's a lot of bickering amongst fans of the original Japanese version too, but in the end the dust usually settles and we all go back to being pals in other threads.
Now, that said though, I do find myself getting a little irked when I see certain hyper-critical posts made in regards to FUNimation, but nowadays it's not so much more when it's said about the dub, but more so when it's said about the company itself. Even if I can't defend every choice they make (and boy can I not), every now and then there'll be a comment that I see as way over the line, as if the person has forgotten that there are indeed real people behind the company face. In those situations you can either choose to address it, or just bite your lip and move on. About 3 times out of 10, I'll go ahead and jump in, but usually I try to just bear it and move on rather than risk being banned.
Moving back on topic from this, I do find it a little odd myself that someone couldn't stomach the dub - since it's surely going to be at about Kai level or better - long enough to go check out the movie on the big screen, especially if the person in question hasn't yet seen the movie at all, but hey, that's their choice. Most of my lack of understanding on that is jealousy anyway, because I really don't think I'll be able to make it to the one that's near-ish me at all. So BAH to all of you who have a theater like right next to your house and still won't go. BAH HUMBUG I say!
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I'm not a fan of the dub, but honestly, I haven't watched it since it originally aired on Toonami afternoons in the 90's. Have not seen Kai, dubbed or otherwise, so maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. Similarly, I avoid the One Piece dub, but was "forced" to watch it when I attended the Strong World premiere at Anime Weekend Atlanta last year. It ended up being pretty good, and I was able to enjoy the movie-watching experience, even though I prefer the Japanese still.
While I'm not a fan of the dub, I am a fan of the theater-going experience. Any time I can see a movie I like on the big screen, I try my darnedest to get there. I'd prefer a Japanese-language, extended-cut showing, but I'm fortunate that BoG is scheduled for my relatively small, college town, so I'm definitely going to go see this!
But everyone has their own preferences! If the dub is a deal-breaker, then that's fine! Especially if they don't like going to the theater anyway
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While I'm not a fan of the dub, I am a fan of the theater-going experience. Any time I can see a movie I like on the big screen, I try my darnedest to get there. I'd prefer a Japanese-language, extended-cut showing, but I'm fortunate that BoG is scheduled for my relatively small, college town, so I'm definitely going to go see this!
But everyone has their own preferences! If the dub is a deal-breaker, then that's fine! Especially if they don't like going to the theater anyway
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In my opinion, Funimation's English dub of One Piece is a lot, lot better than their Dragon Ball dub (talking about the whole franchise, including Kai).medama_oyaji wrote:Similarly, I avoid the One Piece dub, but was "forced" to watch it when I attended the Strong World premiere at Anime Weekend Atlanta last year. It ended up being pretty good, and I was able to enjoy the movie-watching experience, even though I prefer the Japanese still.
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Does anyone else feel that Goku doesn't get enough credit for his level of power before the SSJGOD transformation?
At his maximum as a SSJ3 he would have to be one of the strongest fighters in the universe before Beerus.
He is a lot stronger that the Supreme Kai who is a "God"
It's kinda like when he transformed into SSJ3 Beerus was a bit surprised and Goku got all cocky and asked if he should go back to SSJ2. Which is valid because at the time when he suggested going back down I don't think he thought Beerus was as strong as him then.
At his maximum as a SSJ3 he would have to be one of the strongest fighters in the universe before Beerus.
He is a lot stronger that the Supreme Kai who is a "God"
It's kinda like when he transformed into SSJ3 Beerus was a bit surprised and Goku got all cocky and asked if he should go back to SSJ2. Which is valid because at the time when he suggested going back down I don't think he thought Beerus was as strong as him then.
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Yeah, their One Piece dub is definitely faithful to the original and has very accurate dialogue.UltimateHammerBro wrote:In my opinion, Funimation's English dub of One Piece is a lot, lot better than their Dragon Ball dub (talking about the whole franchise, including Kai).medama_oyaji wrote:Similarly, I avoid the One Piece dub, but was "forced" to watch it when I attended the Strong World premiere at Anime Weekend Atlanta last year. It ended up being pretty good, and I was able to enjoy the movie-watching experience, even though I prefer the Japanese still.
There's a couple of castings which I think aren't so great - I don't think Eric Vale's voice fits Sanji at all, and whilst Colleen Clinkenbeard's Luffy has elements of Mayumi Tanaka, she sounds the same as she does for Gohan or every other young role she voices, and I find her raspy shrieks incredibly irritating. Having said that, Sonny Strait is a great match for Usopp - despite more or less just using his Krillin voice, and Sabat's natural voice fits Zoro perfectly.
But yeah, a couple of nitpicks about casting aside, Funimation's respect for portraying the original content of the show is exemplary. I mean, there are occasional things which could have went either way - like translating Shichibukai as 'Seven Warlords of the Sea', which whilst not an inaccurate replacement term, is maybe a case where the original Japanese name should have been kept.
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I can't take Japanese Usopp seriously as he sounds too much like Ranma/InuYasha.
I can't take English Usopp seriously as he sounds too much like Kuririn/Krillin.

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That's sort of why I don't have a problem with it - as since when are we supposed to take Usopp seriously? And in the times when we do, such as Water 7, the gravity of the plot sort of orientates us away from the sheer ridiculousness of the character.Kid Buu wrote:I can't take Japanese Usopp seriously as he sounds too much like Ranma/InuYasha.
I can't take English Usopp seriously as he sounds too much like Kuririn/Krillin.
I mean, isn't that just One Piece in general? How are we supposed to take half of Luffy's ridiculous foes seriously? Yet somehow, we do.
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I think that very few people can take Usopp seriously, but in my case it's averted: whenever I hear his Spanish VA anywhere I laugh, even if it's a tragic scene, just because he reminds me of Usopp.Blade wrote:That's sort of why I don't have a problem with it - as since when are we supposed to take Usopp seriously? And in the times when we do, such as Water 7, the gravity of the plot sort of orientates us away from the sheer ridiculousness of the character.Kid Buu wrote:I can't take Japanese Usopp seriously as he sounds too much like Ranma/InuYasha.
I can't take English Usopp seriously as he sounds too much like Kuririn/Krillin.
I mean, isn't that just One Piece in general? How are we supposed to take half of Luffy's ridiculous foes seriously? Yet somehow, we do.
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Lurkers of the Anime News Network forums will know he has found a new home in the Dragon Ball articles.AjayLikesGaming wrote:A little over a month ago, I think. He'd had enough of some asinine argument about Gohan supposedly acting out of character in the Cell arc and called the dude making absurd points a 'cretin' and was banned due to previous warnings about behavior.WittyUsername wrote:Wait, penguintruth got banned? When did that happen, if it's okay to ask?
The guy he was arguing with makes a point to mock PenguinTruth on his blog now about getting banned. Very fucking silly.
Blade wrote:Yeah, their One Piece dub is definitely faithful to the original and has very accurate dialogue.UltimateHammerBro wrote:In my opinion, Funimation's English dub of One Piece is a lot, lot better than their Dragon Ball dub (talking about the whole franchise, including Kai).medama_oyaji wrote:Similarly, I avoid the One Piece dub, but was "forced" to watch it when I attended the Strong World premiere at Anime Weekend Atlanta last year. It ended up being pretty good, and I was able to enjoy the movie-watching experience, even though I prefer the Japanese still.
There's a couple of castings which I think aren't so great - I don't think Eric Vale's voice fits Sanji at all, and whilst Colleen Clinkenbeard's Luffy has elements of Mayumi Tanaka, she sounds the same as she does for Gohan or every other young role she voices, and I find her raspy shrieks incredibly irritating. Having said that, Sonny Strait is a great match for Usopp - despite more or less just using his Krillin voice, and Sabat's natural voice fits Zoro perfectly.
But yeah, a couple of nitpicks about casting aside, Funimation's respect for portraying the original content of the show is exemplary. I mean, there are occasional things which could have went either way - like translating Shichibukai as 'Seven Warlords of the Sea', which whilst not an inaccurate replacement term, is maybe a case where the original Japanese name should have been kept.
Colleen's Luffy? Gum Gum Gattling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPRMvMSwQls. At least they kept Haki and we don't get Zolo which the Viz manga refuses to fix. Also Ian Sinclair is a perfect Brook, Crawly Davidson. Mike Mcfarland is a great ADR director.
On Topic, any chance Darwin Australia will get a theater screening of this. We got a one screening of The Wind Rises so maybe.
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but didn't they keep Zolo for the non-uncut broadcast version for consistency with the 4Kids dub it succeeded? I'm not entirely sure on that, as in the UK at least, we never got a broadcast of the Funimation Dub.NintendoBlaze53 wrote:At least they kept Haki and we don't get Zolo
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Only for the TV edited Funimation dub, yes.Blade wrote:Correct me if I'm mistaken, but didn't they keep Zolo for the non-uncut broadcast version for consistency with the 4Kids dub it succeeded? I'm not entirely sure on that, as in the UK at least, we never got a broadcast of the Funimation Dub.NintendoBlaze53 wrote:At least they kept Haki and we don't get Zolo
While One Piece stopped airing on US Cartoon Network, it continued on Australian and New Zealand's version with a fully uncut dub, blood and Zoro 'n' all that jazz.
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That's a rather silly way of looking at things. Watching something with subtitles is watching the original version, just with a translation added at the bottom. It's the original with bits tacked on. And you can definitely get fully immersed in a movie watching it subtitled. Maybe it takes some getting used to at first, but it's well worth it. There's loads of good stuff from all over the world that you're not going to find dubbed.Looneygamemaster wrote:Because with subtitles, you're not getting the original version. You're getting someone's translation of the original version. And if that's the case, I feel you may as well go all the way and watch the English dub, so as to fully immerse yourself (unless the dub's bad, but no one can possibly know that about this movie yet).
Those who don't want to, well, that's their right of course. But can we please stop this "original version" nonsense?
This though, I can heartily endorse to anyone who wants to put in the effort. I can personally vouch for the results. It's fun, and learning a language tends to come in handy in all sorts of places besides watching cartoons.If you'll forgive my bluntness--those who want to experience the "original version" of a Japanese cartoon should learn Japanese and watch it without subtitles.
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I'm a fan of the dub, always have been. I don't dislike the Japanese, but just prefer the dub.
But what I don't like is that people say "I can't imagine someone actually liking the dub." That's just rude in my opinion.
But what I don't like is that people say "I can't imagine someone actually liking the dub." That's just rude in my opinion.
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The only time I'd say that is for a realllllly bad dub IE: 4kidsDbzfan94 wrote:I'm a fan of the dub, always have been. I don't dislike the Japanese, but just prefer the dub.
But what I don't like is that people say "I can't imagine someone actually liking the dub." That's just rude in my opinion.
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Honestly 4kids did a really good job with Pokemon and even YuGiOh (mainly the original).thomas1up wrote:The only time I'd say that is for a realllllly bad dub IE: 4kidsDbzfan94 wrote:I'm a fan of the dub, always have been. I don't dislike the Japanese, but just prefer the dub.
But what I don't like is that people say "I can't imagine someone actually liking the dub." That's just rude in my opinion.
But yeah One Piece's dub...is just bad. I'm usually the one to prefer dubs in vs general, but OP is just bad. I don't even watch the series and it's a bad dub.
The only (semi) decent about 4kids OP is the opening, and even that is just for nostalgia, I know it's actually pretty crappy
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Pokemon I can agree, but YuGiOh.... nah, their voice actors were great and it is nostalgic for me since I used to watch it when I was like... 7? But I can't stand their censorship and Americanizing, their uncut DVD's they produced were great but only lasted for 9 episodesDbzfan94 wrote:Honestly 4kids did a really good job with Pokemon and even YuGiOh (mainly the original).thomas1up wrote:The only time I'd say that is for a realllllly bad dub IE: 4kidsDbzfan94 wrote:I'm a fan of the dub, always have been. I don't dislike the Japanese, but just prefer the dub.
But what I don't like is that people say "I can't imagine someone actually liking the dub." That's just rude in my opinion.
But yeah One Piece's dub...is just bad. I'm usually the one to prefer dubs in vs general, but OP is just bad. I don't even watch the series and it's a bad dub.
The only (semi) decent about 4kids OP is the opening, and even that is just for nostalgia, I know it's actually pretty crappy
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A few other dubs to include.thomas1up wrote:Pokemon I can agree, but YuGiOh.... nah, their voice actors were great and it is nostalgic for me since I used to watch it when I was like... 7? But I can't stand their censorship and Americanizing, their uncut DVD's they produced were great but only lasted for 9 episodesDbzfan94 wrote:Honestly 4kids did a really good job with Pokemon and even YuGiOh (mainly the original).thomas1up wrote: The only time I'd say that is for a realllllly bad dub IE: 4kids
But yeah One Piece's dub...is just bad. I'm usually the one to prefer dubs in vs general, but OP is just bad. I don't even watch the series and it's a bad dub.
The only (semi) decent about 4kids OP is the opening, and even that is just for nostalgia, I know it's actually pretty crappy
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Ahh yes TMNT. Just finished watching it again recently was a really good series. (Got messy toward the end but so does most things) was really surprised 4kids handled the series.
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Names of things can be tricky for some without explaining some things. To a native Japanese speaker the Japanese name might sound indicative of how many there are, but to those who don't speak Japanese, it doesn't. Then again, wouldn't be surprised if a Japanese comic store had in a corner "Kumoriman" or "Shonen Ninja Kame".Blade wrote: But yeah, a couple of nitpicks about casting aside, Funimation's respect for portraying the original content of the show is exemplary. I mean, there are occasional things which could have went either way - like translating Shichibukai as 'Seven Warlords of the Sea', which whilst not an inaccurate replacement term, is maybe a case where the original Japanese name should have been kept.
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All these comments...I haven't seen anything about Vegeta's Bingo Dance in English Dub yet.
2-1/2 months...just 2-1/2 months until the most laughter ever is heard in my theaters.
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