Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Dayspring]

I don't think you guys are using the word "potential" properly here. Goku's potential strength increase was low. We see it as being very low. He then does something most Saiyans don't do (train aaaaall the frickin' time) as well as encounter magical items that increase his strength (the holy water and senzus for instant healing) and receive tutelage from actual gods. Under typical Saiyan circumstances, Goku would not have become as powerful as Radditz, whereas Vegeta would have stayed at the strength level that he was at when he first came to Earth.

What happened is that both exceeded their potentials. Repeatedly so.

[DBZAOTA482]

I like how Goku's speech in the saiyan arc means nothing now a days.

Goku did mention how his home was a blessing so no It's not meaningless.

It show the first thing that shows the huge contrast between him, and Vegeta's general demeanor and work ethics.

[Tennessaiyan]

I don't think you guys are using the word "potential" properly here. Goku's potential strength increase was low. We see it as being very low. He then does something most Saiyans don't do (train aaaaall the frickin' time) as well as encounter magical items that increase his strength (the holy water and senzus for instant healing) and receive tutelage from actual gods. Under typical Saiyan circumstances, Goku would not have become as powerful as Radditz, whereas Vegeta would have stayed at the strength level that he was at when he first came to Earth.

What happened is that both exceeded their potentials. Repeatedly so.

Isn't potential always there, though? It just has to be fulfilled. By doing the right training, fighting, and having access to the best magical items as you said. True. But potential is always there. So, Goku didn't really exceed his potential, he just had more potential than what he had initially thought.

[dbzfan7]

I like how Goku's speech in the saiyan arc means nothing now a days.

Goku did mention how his home was a blessing so no It's not meaningless.

It show the first thing that shows the huge contrast between him, and Vegeta's general demeanor and work ethics.

I mean "Even a low class can surpass an elite." Well maybe if the elite squanders his potential sure, but if that elite also trains hard, the low class in most cases will never surpass the elite.

[TheGameTagerZ]

Toyotaro and Ooishi Naho Give Their Impressions of The Dragon Ball Z: Revival of F Film

Talk about a lot of Vegeta involvement in the movie, Frieza revival backlash from some fans, plenty of 1 v 1 fights and more.

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/03/19/t ... of-f-film/

[DBZAOTA482]

I like how Goku's speech in the saiyan arc means nothing now a days.

Goku did mention how his home was a blessing so no It's not meaningless.

It show the first thing that shows the huge contrast between him, and Vegeta's general demeanor and work ethics.

I mean "Even a low class can surpass an elite." Well maybe if the elite squanders his potential sure, but if that elite also trains hard, the low class in most cases will never surpass the elite.

That was part of it.

[GokuRules987]

I hope we get another couple dbz movies after this one. Because nothing could compare to DBZ and nothing ever will!!! Anime/Manga writers these days are reusing too much of the same old ideas and giving their characters 2D fakeish personalities and emotions that they seen other animes and manga's do. Toriyama rarely read manga or watched anime. His ideas were completely new and fresh and thats why he was able to make this legendary master piece series.

[Tennessaiyan]

Toyotaro and Ooishi Naho Give Their Impressions of The Dragon Ball Z: Revival of F Film

Talk about a lot of Vegeta involvement in the movie, Freeza revival backlash from some fans, plenty of 1 v 1 fights and more.

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/03/19/t ... of-f-film/

A lot of Vegeta involvement Vegeta is AMAZING in this movie? Hilarious conversation between Beerus and Bulma?

Did I die and go to heaven?

Thanks for posting!

[Helios518]

Toyotaro and Ooishi Naho Give Their Impressions of The Dragon Ball Z: Revival of F Film

Talk about a lot of Vegeta involvement in the movie, Freeza revival backlash from some fans, plenty of 1 v 1 fights and more.

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/03/19/t ... of-f-film/

Can someone explain what they mean by Buu is from the past are they referencing how long Buu has been around?

[DBZ_Lee]

Toyotaro and Ooishi Naho Give Their Impressions of The Dragon Ball Z: Revival of F Film

Talk about a lot of Vegeta involvement in the movie, Freeza revival backlash from some fans, plenty of 1 v 1 fights and more.

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/03/19/t ... of-f-film/

Thanks man! this interview is awesome. Can't wait to see what's in store for Vegeta.

[Helios518]

Toyotaro and Ooishi Naho Give Their Impressions of The Dragon Ball Z: Revival of F Film

Talk about a lot of Vegeta involvement in the movie, Freeza revival backlash from some fans, plenty of 1 v 1 fights and more.

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/03/19/t ... of-f-film/

Can someone explain what they mean by Buu is "from the past" are they referencing how long Buu has been around?

[dbzfan7]

I mean "Even a low class can surpass an elite." Well maybe if the elite squanders his potential sure, but if that elite also trains hard, the low class in most cases will never surpass the elite.

That was part of it.

Which means the low class only has a chance if he's really lucky. So in most cases the low class is fucked. Training hard means nothing if the elite does that too.

[Sandubadear]

Toyotaro and Ooishi Naho Give Their Impressions of The Dragon Ball Z: Revival of F Film

Talk about a lot of Vegeta involvement in the movie, Freeza revival backlash from some fans, plenty of 1 v 1 fights and more.

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/03/19/t ... of-f-film/

Can someone explain what they mean by Buu is from the past are they referencing how long Buu has been around?

I guess it means that Cell comes from a Future timeline, and Buu comes from millions of years ago, while Frieza is from "this" generation.

[Beerus-sama]

Toyotaro and Ooishi Naho Give Their Impressions of The Dragon Ball Z: Revival of F Film

Talk about a lot of Vegeta involvement in the movie, Freeza revival backlash from some fans, plenty of 1 v 1 fights and more.

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/03/19/t ... of-f-film/

Beerus have a conversation with Bulma?
..

YESSS!!!

can't wait to see if he tries the Pudding or Bulma convince him about not having it

[Helios518]

Toyotaro and Ooishi Naho Give Their Impressions of The Dragon Ball Z: Revival of F Film

Talk about a lot of Vegeta involvement in the movie, Freeza revival backlash from some fans, plenty of 1 v 1 fights and more.

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/03/19/t ... of-f-film/

Can someone explain what they mean by Buu is from the past are they referencing how long Buu has been around?

I guess it means that Cell comes from a Future timeline, and Buu comes from millions of years ago, while Freeza is from "this" generation.

I guess that's what they meant, thanks for clearing that up for me.

[Abel Taylor]

Toyotaro and Ooishi Naho Give Their Impressions of The Dragon Ball Z: Revival of F Film

Talk about a lot of Vegeta involvement in the movie, Freeza revival backlash from some fans, plenty of 1 v 1 fights and more.

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/03/19/t ... of-f-film/

Beerus have a conversation with Bulma?
..

YESSS!!!

can't wait to see if he tries the Pudding or Bulma convince him about not having it

She or Whis must be the one who introduces him to ice cream. I could imagine it now
Beerus: Ah, and where is the pudding?
Bulma: Oh!... uhhh, we don't... have any right no-
Beerus: DON'T HAVE ANY? I'LL DESTROY THIS WHOLE PLANET- NO! I'LL DESTROY YOUR SOLAR SYSTEM FOR THIS!
Whis/Bulma: You should try this instead. It's way better than pudding *hands him a strawberry sundae*
Beerus: Hmph! Fine...
*after eating/tasting the sundae and enjoying it*
I like it. A lot. Your planet will survive to be destroyed another day.
/scene.

Also, that translation seems ehhh. Wait for Herms or SaiyaJedi to translate it, because some things could be way off, like the Revival of F manga chapter yesterday.

[DBZAOTA482]

I mean "Even a low class can surpass an elite." Well maybe if the elite squanders his potential sure, but if that elite also trains hard, the low class in most cases will never surpass the elite.

That was part of it.

Which means the low class only has a chance if he's really lucky. So in most cases the low class is fucked. Training hard means nothing if the elite does that too.

Well, in a way Goku does genuinely work the hardest of the two since he actually makes the most out of his opportunities whereas Vegeta would refuse help from others to gain strength unless shit really hits the fan and he abuses his body.

[Chuquita]

Always ready for some good Vegeta content. Looking forward to the Kanzenshuu translation.

[dbzfan7]

Well, in a way Goku does genuinely work the hardest of the two since he actually makes the most out of his opportunities whereas Vegeta would refuse help from others to gain strength unless shit really hits the fan and he abuses his body.

Yeah, so the low class is lucky the elite squanders himself. Which means the low class can't be gifted and more talented than the higher breed class. Vegeta would be way better than Goku if he trained properly. The elite just are too overconfident. Hence Goku really should have said "Even a low class can surpass an elite, if the elite screws himself out of his potential"

[TheGameTagerZ]

Note that it's not transformed Beerus and Whis it's strengthen. In japanese it could be either or but strengthened makes sense in this case.