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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 11

Post by Black_Anime_Fan » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:42 am

Did the money FUNimation made from OB sales fund for their DBox release? If so, any chance the money they make from this Blu-Ray release will fund for a (hopefully) better Blu-Ray release?
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Post by B » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:11 pm

Black_Anime_Fan wrote:Did the money FUNimation made from OB sales fund for their DBox release?
It's something that people like to throw out as a "positive" for the bricks, but wouldn't everything they release now theoretically fund everything they release later?
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Post by VegettoEX » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:15 pm

Yeah, I don't really like that line of thought.

It's not like DBZ money goes in to only and specifically to the exclusion of everything else fund more DBZ stuff. If anything, it's the opposite: DBZ revenue is their guaranteed play-money to allow them to take chances and innovate in other areas (read: with other properties).
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 11

Post by Black_Anime_Fan » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:40 pm

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Black_Anime_Fan wrote:Did the money FUNimation made from OB sales fund for their DBox release?
It's something that people like to throw out as a "positive" for the bricks, but wouldn't everything they release now theoretically fund everything they release later?
Wasn't really giving a "positive" for the bricks as you say, but was giving more of a straightforward question.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 11

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:17 pm

Black_Anime_Fan wrote:Did the money FUNimation made from OB sales fund for their DBox release? If so, any chance the money they make from this Blu-Ray release will fund for a (hopefully) better Blu-Ray release?
The picture quality and cropping looks great yet people are complaining because it's in 16:9 AR but what if it were in 4:3 AR and they still had the same kind of remastering would that be okay then? Regardless of the detail loss?

So-called "purist fans" tend to be the most hypocrite fans of all because of their elitist behaviours, well, Amazon's Dragon Ball Z Season 1 Blu-ray page is an obvious proof.

From what I've seen I want to own every single set of these, sure Toei Animation or FUNi could later release it on 4:3 AR but would that make me want to purchase after I have these 16:9 AR releases? Nope. I have the Dragon Boxes for 4:3 AR experience.

Anyhow, here's hoping Amazon will delete all those fake reviews so that the people who paid for it can share their opinion about the product they've bought.
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Post by sangofe » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:23 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:The picture quality and cropping looks great
You're the first person on the entire internet I've seen say this.

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Post by Ajay » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:28 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:The picture quality and cropping looks great yet people are complaining because it's in 16:9 AR but what if it were in 4:3 AR and they still had the same kind of remastering would that be okay then? Regardless of the detail loss?
No, it looks horrendous. If it were 4:3, it'd still be absolutely disgusting. DNR is not okay under any circumstances and there's a reason reviewers at sites like Blu-Ray.com look down on it with regards to any product.

You don't have to be a fan of the show to understand that and since you are a fan, I find it even more baffling that you think this is okay.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:52 pm

What FUNimation's doing is what the fansub AnimeClipse did to Dragon Ball Kai. They made it look modern, colourful and left the classic-ness behind.

Kai Original Vs. Kai AnimeClipse
Now comparing this to FUNimation's DBZ BD release:
AC used filters whereas FUNimation used a professional remastering system yet both have detail loss but imo, I'd take their versions over the original because I'm tired of seeing the old, dirty, grainy and 4:3 AR editions. This is far better than what people would get from the Orange Bricks.
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Post by VegettoEX » Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:03 pm

They're both terrible, and they should both be ashamed.

At least one of them has the excuse of being a business with actual money to be made trying to fool people.
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Post by Black_Anime_Fan » Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:33 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:What FUNimation's doing is what the fansub AnimeClipse did to Dragon Ball Kai. They made it look modern, colourful and left the classic-ness behind.
The DBoxes and Level Sets did a much better job on making the show look great and (somewhat) modern, while still having that "classic-feel" intact, without hurting the footage in any way with shit like DVNR, cropped AR, and crappy colors. DBZ was never meant to look really bright, really colorful and blurry.
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Post by Fennekin » Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:34 pm

With all the bad comments on the Amazon page, it might scare off a lot of potential buyers. xD

Though I expect most sales to come from in-store.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 11

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:41 pm

Black_Anime_Fan wrote:The DBoxes and Level Sets did a much better job on making the show look great and (somewhat) modern, while still having that "classic-feel" intact, without hurting the footage in any way with shit like DVNR, cropped AR, and crappy colors. DBZ was never meant to look really bright, really colorful and blurry.
1) The colours used are accurate as they're close to the original Japanese broadcast.
2) Dragon Boxes and Kai (even on Blu-ray) looked blurry, the only exception is the Level's which were cancelled.
3) Kai also tried to be colourful with its new scenes and it worked but then it clashed with the original footage.

Reason why Kai fits into this discussion is because it's DBZ all over again but with less filler.

Dragon Box Vs. Original Broadcast Colours
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You see, Dragon Box did not have the proper colours that the original broadcast had which even the awful Orange Bricks did a more precise job in that aspect.
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Post by G1GACANN0N » Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:49 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
Black_Anime_Fan wrote:Did the money FUNimation made from OB sales fund for their DBox release? If so, any chance the money they make from this Blu-Ray release will fund for a (hopefully) better Blu-Ray release?
The picture quality and cropping looks great yet people are complaining because it's in 16:9 AR but what if it were in 4:3 AR and they still had the same kind of remastering would that be okay then? Regardless of the detail loss?

So-called "purist fans" tend to be the most hypocrite fans of all because of their elitist behaviours, well, Amazon's Dragon Ball Z Season 1 Blu-ray page is an obvious proof.

From what I've seen I want to own every single set of these, sure Toei Animation or FUNi could later release it on 4:3 AR but would that make me want to purchase after I have these 16:9 AR releases? Nope. I have the Dragon Boxes for 4:3 AR experience.

Anyhow, here's hoping Amazon will delete all those fake reviews so that the people who paid for it can share their opinion about the product they've bought.
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Post by Black_Anime_Fan » Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:53 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
Black_Anime_Fan wrote:The DBoxes and Level Sets did a much better job on making the show look great and (somewhat) modern, while still having that "classic-feel" intact, without hurting the footage in any way with shit like DVNR, cropped AR, and crappy colors. DBZ was never meant to look really bright, really colorful and blurry.
1) The colours used are accurate as they're close to the original Japanese broadcast.
2) Dragon Boxes and Kai (even on Blu-ray) looked blurry, the only exception is the Level's which were cancelled.
3) Kai also tried to be colourful with its new scenes and it worked but then it clashed with the original footage.
1. The colors are about as bad and inaccurate as those "4K remastered" videos on YouTube, the original Japanese broadcast never included neon.

2. The DBoxes and Kai may have been a bit blurry at best, but still retained detail and looked nowhere near as bad as this new release.

3. Kai gets a pass on trying to look more colorful and modern, since it was meant to represent what DBZ would look like if it were animated in 2010-2011, with or without the reanimated scenes.
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Post by kei17 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:08 pm

Occasionally I wish I were so ignorant that I can enjoy FUNi's stupid releases without thinking. I'd be happier that way.

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Post by Rukura » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:30 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:The picture quality and cropping looks great yet people are complaining because it's in 16:9 AR but what if it were in 4:3 AR and they still had the same kind of remastering would that be okay then? Regardless of the detail loss?

So-called "purist fans" tend to be the most hypocrite fans of all because of their elitist behaviours, well, Amazon's Dragon Ball Z Season 1 Blu-ray page is an obvious proof.

From what I've seen I want to own every single set of these, sure Toei Animation or FUNi could later release it on 4:3 AR but would that make me want to purchase after I have these 16:9 AR releases? Nope. I have the Dragon Boxes for 4:3 AR experience.

Anyhow, here's hoping Amazon will delete all those fake reviews so that the people who paid for it can share their opinion about the product they've bought.
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Post by ShadowDude112 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:30 pm

I was talking to MarcFBR on twitter a few days ago and I said that it seems weird that FUNimation is doing this and not a DBox release of Dragon Ball or the movies. Marc responded with saying they either can't due to licensing problems or they did the numbers and they don't work. The latter is confusing as FUNimation had to have known when releasing the Dragon Boxes that it was a very niche product, and would only sell to people who knew what they were. I say they did a pretty good job. The only Dragon Box in stock that I've seen is the 5th one. Every other one is a second hand retailer. So clearly the Dragon Boxes sold to FUNimations projections. So I guess I'm confused why they chose this instead of doing Dragon Ball or the movies? I mean, Dragon Ball has had only 2 releases, and the Blue Bricks don't really look that great.
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Post by VegettoEX » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:33 pm

A cheap, shitty, insulting DBZ product that gets into the hands of the masses is always going to do better than ANY type of DB or DBGT product. That's why they haven't gone back to that well.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:35 pm

VegettoEX wrote:A cheap, shitty, insulting DBZ product that gets into the hands of the masses is always going to do better than ANY type of DB or DBGT product. That's why they haven't gone back to that well.
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