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Koitsukai wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:08 am
But it does feel kinda dated to see Sign Goku when main continuity Goku already has access to the perfected form and is improving on it.
LOL I guess they read my message.
So, who is this Goku looking fella that can tango with SSR3 just as a SS?
I'm glad Gohan got to do something but SS1 Makes no sense it's post ToP even if this isn't supposed to be the super timeline.
Hopefully the manga fixes things as it often does. Wheelo was dodging SS4s in his old man state yet SS1 Gohan beats his transformed version? Maybe he was powered up by Fuu before.
How do you predict the matchups between Super 17, BoJack and the dragon team shake out? You'd think Cell and 17 would fight super.
TobyS wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:45 pm
I'm glad Gohan got to do something but SS1 Makes no sense it's post ToP even if this isn't supposed to be the super timeline.
Hopefully the manga fixes things as it often does. Wheelo was dodging SS4s in his old man state yet SS1 Gohan beats his transformed version? Maybe he was powered up by Fuu before.
How do you predict the matchups between Super 17, BoJack and the dragon team shake out? You'd think Cell and 17 would fight super.
BoJack should want to fight Gohan...
There's nothing wrong with him going Super Saiyan. He wasn't Ultimate in any scene of the episode.
TobyS wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:45 pm
I'm glad Gohan got to do something but SS1 Makes no sense it's post ToP even if this isn't supposed to be the super timeline.
Hopefully the manga fixes things as it often does. Wheelo was dodging SS4s in his old man state yet SS1 Gohan beats his transformed version? Maybe he was powered up by Fuu before.
How do you predict the matchups between Super 17, BoJack and the dragon team shake out? You'd think Cell and 17 would fight super.
BoJack should want to fight Gohan...
There's nothing wrong with him going Super Saiyan. He wasn't Ultimate in any scene of the episode.
He never went SS again manga or anime after regaining ultimate.
It's more powerful and has less drain.
Untransformed wheelo was dodging SS4s...
Tactically and in terms of powerscaling it's fucking stupid in and out of universe.
TobyS wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:45 pm
I'm glad Gohan got to do something but SS1 Makes no sense it's post ToP even if this isn't supposed to be the super timeline.
Hopefully the manga fixes things as it often does. Wheelo was dodging SS4s in his old man state yet SS1 Gohan beats his transformed version? Maybe he was powered up by Fuu before.
How do you predict the matchups between Super 17, BoJack and the dragon team shake out? You'd think Cell and 17 would fight super.
BoJack should want to fight Gohan...
There's nothing wrong with him going Super Saiyan. He wasn't Ultimate in any scene of the episode.
He never went SS again manga or anime after regaining ultimate.
It's more powerful and has less drain.
Untransformed wheelo was dodging SS4s...
Tactically and in terms of powerscaling it's fucking stupid in and out of universe.
Ultimate is a form. He can use it or Super Saiyan as he pleases.
Heroes doesn't have good powerscaling. Isn't this known?
Yeah, it's kinda dumb for Gohan to use SS when he can use that and more power in a similar to his base form. It would be like Buu arc Vegeta using SS grade II.
Ha! Called it with Dr. Wheelo! I wish we got a better look at his streamlined mech form, it actually looks kinda cool. As unique as his original monstrous design was, the whole "how would he even fit his inhumanly massive brain into a normal human body" thing always distracted me. Anyway, uh, Super Saiyan Rosé 3 is now a thing? Is Blue 3 next? Wild. I almost expect this other masked Saiyan to turn out to be Goten, so the infamous fan theory can finally be realized in some official capacity. Bardock feels too obvious at this point.
The manga always manages to feel much more dynamic than the anime and actually makes the ridiculous plot it shares somewhat more coherent. This arc is a slight improvement from the previous one, which was just an irredeemable mess, owing to the fact that this one actually has some intrigue and nice character moments. I'm still utterly lost as to why Cell needed to return though, just to teleport everyone off Planet Vegeta. What am I saying... it's Heroes. Still, the trope of "untrustworthy evil character appears out of nowhere to help the heroes for unclear reasons" has gone beyond a joke at this point.
LoganForkHands73 wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:03 am
Ha! Called it with Dr. Wheelo! I wish we got a better look at his streamlined mech form, it actually looks kinda cool. As unique as his original monstrous design was, the whole "how would he even fit his inhumanly massive brain into a normal human body" thing always distracted me. Anyway, uh, Super Saiyan Rosé 3 is now a thing? Is Blue 3 next? Wild. I almost expect this other masked Saiyan to turn out to be Goten, so the infamous fan theory can finally be realized in some official capacity. Bardock feels too obvious at this point.
I don't know about SSB3, Vegeta has that Berserker SSBE thing going on, and Goku has UI.
I was thinkin, what if the DBS manga gives Vegeta something like what he has in SDBH?
LoganForkHands73 wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:03 am
Ha! Called it with Dr. Wheelo! I wish we got a better look at his streamlined mech form, it actually looks kinda cool. As unique as his original monstrous design was, the whole "how would he even fit his inhumanly massive brain into a normal human body" thing always distracted me. Anyway, uh, Super Saiyan Rosé 3 is now a thing? Is Blue 3 next? Wild. I almost expect this other masked Saiyan to turn out to be Goten, so the infamous fan theory can finally be realized in some official capacity. Bardock feels too obvious at this point.
The manga always manages to feel much more dynamic than the anime and actually makes the ridiculous plot it shares somewhat more coherent. This arc is a slight improvement from the previous one, which was just an irredeemable mess, owing to the fact that this one actually has some intrigue and nice character moments. I'm still utterly lost as to why Cell needed to return though, just to teleport everyone off Planet Vegeta. What am I saying... it's Heroes. Still, the trope of "untrustworthy evil character appears out of nowhere to help the heroes for unclear reasons" has gone beyond a joke at this point.
Yeah why was his brain so big? Presumably as a human it was regular size, did it swell in the tank as it took on water?
This makes more sense this way!
It's late August and we still have no date for the new ep, wasn't the new schedule for episodes to be released once a month?
Now I hope that me complaining will make the news come soon
- How convinient that the demon guys has a portal to a dimension to train in little time like the RoSaT, also that what Whis should have done prior to U6 vs. U7 tournament, way better than coming back to a old concept... Also were they fighting giant shadow of the Ginyus?
- That mysterious hooded guy that certainly is not Bardock is quite strong to resist Rosé 2 while in SSJ.
- I love how Heroes gave another design for a forgotten villain like Dr. Wheelo from Z Movie 3 and also made him more interesting.
- The ending was pretty nice, hope that they don't attemp to fuse... See both Goku at their peak vs. Rosé 3 Black would be much better to my taste.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Noah wrote: Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:15 pm
- The ending was pretty nice, hope that they don't attemp to fuse... See both Goku at their peak vs. Rosé 3 Black would be much better to my taste.
I agree 100%! Goku is the protagonist of the show, not Gogeta or Vegito. They’re cool every once in a while, but I much prefer when Goku and/or Vegeta (or Gohan or another Z fighter) are the ones that push their limits to succeed.
See this is why I can't stay invested in Heroes. The fact that the episodes are 10 minutes long is actually not a problem because they are generally entertaining, but waiting 2 months for a new episode? Seriously
At his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
Akira Toriyama, DBS vol.4 joint interview with Toyotaro
For a moment there, I thought they were really going for Super Saiyan Rosé 4. Goku Black gets a tail when he transforms into Super Saiyan Rosé 3 Full Power, for some reason. But since he's seemingly been killed, maybe that won't happen.
Of course Warrior in Black and Goku won't interact, why would they? What do they have in common?
Nice to see teen Fu again! Curious about the wing, though.
Holy, that was a very nice episode. Not on the level of Goku vs Hearts, but still very action packed!
And wow that twist at the end, why was Fu young? Did Goku get sent back in time or something?
So Zamasu is the most wanked villain after Broly huh, he's so powerful that he literally pulled Omega Shenron out of his ass. I love how Ultra Instinct and Gogeta seem to have that NWO Hogan contract lol. #ThatDoesn'tWorkForMeBrother.
But I'm glad that Gogeta beat Zamasu clean, it actually feels satisfying seeing him be genuinely hurt and not just being a glutton for punishment because its making him stronger, I HATE that.
It's not too late. One day, it will be.
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