"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by Sandubadear » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:21 pm

Sonicjamareiz wrote:Either the Super dragon balls or the Namekian dragon balls
They don't know where Namek is (Sorbet couldn't find it, why should Pilaf?) and they can't use the Super Dragon Balls due to several factors (can't speak god language, can't pull 7 fucking planets across the universe, etc).

Also if they used the Earth Dragon Balls even before the Androids appeared, then I'm sure they would be older than what they're now.
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Post by Big Black Sayian » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:31 pm

Nekis13 wrote:
Big Black Saiyan wrote:If we go Pilaf gang making the wish before Piccolo died I suppose Mai would be around Future Gohan age if he lived
Eh, still better than having Trunks date someone older than her mom (if they even are to begin with.)

I still say that when they did the wish they turned into babies which is why in BoG they look like Goten and Trunks' age, still implying that the wish was made around the same time in both timelines.
Well there was a short time skip between Trunks arrival and the face off against Dr Gero. Maybe they did use the Dragon balls during that time. Well in the main timeline

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Post by Bullza » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:52 pm

Couldn't they have just made the wish before Piccolo was killed?

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:55 pm

This thread really blew up since this morning. So my thoughts are this:

1. Goku Black design looks like a let down to me. I would imagine Goku with black skin (the color black, not brown) with red eyes and white hair. However he has potara earrings.

2. It's possible that Goku Black could be Goku from Trunks timeline that somehow mange to fuses with himself from other universes to get stronger. Than again, it could be nothing since Zarnon had the same type of earrings.

3. Is that really Mai or someone else new? If it's Mai, it would be random for her to team up with Future Trunks since Super got rid of the shipping between the two characters.
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If that's implying she's the result from Trunks and Mai, why would she be using a gun if she's 1/3rd Saiyan? If Trunks is her father I would imagine he'd have taught her how to use Ki at this point, especially given their predicament.
Could be added just to look cool. I mean Trunks in the GT artwork had him holding guns.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:02 pm

Sonicjamareiz wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Don't forget Perfect Cell and Majin Boo.
That doesn't classify as "evil Goku" they have their own personality only thing similar is some of Buu & Cell's techniques.
Perfect Cell IS essentially how evil Goku would act. Obsessed about fighting to test himself with absolutely no regard for people's lives. Super and Fat Boo too have a desire to test themselves against strong opponents, hell, Goku recognizing this trait is what keeps Fat Boo off the good guys asses for a while.

Plus Bardock and Turles, especially the former, are fairly prominent characters in the series who fill the roll of an Evil Goku to the letter.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:08 pm

I look forward to this story arc a lot. It looks darker and I really can't wait to see what will happen in the story. I'm sick of people comparing Goku Black to Tullece since we don't know anything about Goku Black yet. The Evil Goku trope is done in fan fiction a lot and is not a original idea, but we still have yet to see his character. Tullece is just a Saiyan who looks like Goku and is more similar to Radditz. Not to mention Tullece is a really dull villain in my opinion and I hope Goku Black is interesting and has a every dark sick evil personality to his character.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:11 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Perfect Cell IS essentially how evil Goku would act. Obsessed about fighting to test himself with absolutely no regard for people's lives.
Wait are you talking Goku or Cell here? I'm not sure what the differences is :lol:.
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Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:15 pm

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ekrolo2 wrote:Perfect Cell IS essentially how evil Goku would act. Obsessed about fighting to test himself with absolutely no regard for people's lives.
Wait are you talking Goku or Cell here? I'm not sure what the differences is :lol:.
Lol, I barely saw one while writing the comment too ;)

On a more serious note, speaking as a guy who generally doesn't like Goku, I think the fundamental difference between them is how they go about challenging someone. Cell is the guy who'll torture a 9 (10?) year old kid and all his friends just to get him to fight for real. Goku's just gonna pester you and probably try to pimp out Bulma to get what he wants.

They're both amoral as hell but Goku's never going to torture or threaten say Monaka's loved ones and family just to get him to fight.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:23 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:Perfect Cell IS essentially how evil Goku would act. Obsessed about fighting to test himself with absolutely no regard for people's lives.
Wait are you talking Goku or Cell here? I'm not sure what the differences is :lol:.
Lol, I barely saw one while writing the comment too ;)

On a more serious note, speaking as a guy who generally doesn't like Goku, I think the fundamental difference between them is how they go about challenging someone. Cell is the guy who'll torture a 9 (10?) year old kid and all his friends just to get him to fight for real. Goku's just gonna pester you and probably try to pimp out Bulma to get what he wants.

They're both amoral as hell but Goku's never going to torture or threaten say Monaka's loved ones and family just to get him to fight.
It's why I hope Goku Black essentially Goku, not bullshitting. His evil is essentially what Goku already does, but the narrative doesn't paint him in a good picture. Just so characters can wonder if he's really that much more evil than Goku is.
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Post by pacz360 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:28 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote: Wait are you talking Goku or Cell here? I'm not sure what the differences is :lol:.
Lol, I barely saw one while writing the comment too ;)

On a more serious note, speaking as a guy who generally doesn't like Goku, I think the fundamental difference between them is how they go about challenging someone. Cell is the guy who'll torture a 9 (10?) year old kid and all his friends just to get him to fight for real. Goku's just gonna pester you and probably try to pimp out Bulma to get what he wants.

They're both amoral as hell but Goku's never going to torture or threaten say Monaka's loved ones and family just to get him to fight.
It's why I hope Goku Black essentially Goku, not bullshitting. His evil is essentially what Goku already does, but the narrative doesn't paint him in a good picture. Just so characters can wonder if he's really that much more evil than Goku is.
Plz like super really gonna do anything meaningful with that that would imply goku getting some sort of character development.

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Post by Avok » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:29 pm

Damn, looks amazing.

Going by how Super has been so far, I don't want to get my hopes up, but man, if Toei would really step up their game it could turn out awesome.

I expect a serious, dark, and action packed arc with mysteries and twists like the Cell Saga (But I know we won't be getting any of that).

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Post by SaiyanZ » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:33 pm

Quick question, wasn't Kid Trunks's hair blue in Battle of Gods? That would explain why its blue here I guess.
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Post by JimmyRustam » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:34 pm

Avok wrote:Damn, looks amazing.

Going by how Super has been so far, I don't want to get my hopes up, but man, if Toei would really step up their game it could turn out awesome.

I expect a serious, dark, and action packed arc with mysteries and twists like the Cell Saga (But I know we won't be getting any of that).
Same here :)

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Post by pacz360 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:35 pm

Avok wrote:Damn, looks amazing.

Going by how Super has been so far, I don't want to get my hopes up, but man, if Toei would really step up their game it could turn out awesome.

I expect a serious, dark, and action packed arc with mysteries and twists like the Cell Saga (But I know we won't be getting any of that).
I'm with you if super show its full potential in this arc then i would take back everything i said but thats if tori/toei steps up in this arc.

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Post by ssj_duelist » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:37 pm

I wonder if they'll bother explaining Mai's age.

Is there a possible point in time they could have used them much earlier than we thought?

Maybe they used them 3 years after Frieza around the time the androids arrived, before they killed Piccolo?

Of course they would have aged 7 years during the Buu saga...

Yeah this won't make any sense, unless it is her daughter or something, or fountain of youth/magic hax.

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Post by Sonicjamareiz » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:40 pm

I hate the second half of the android arc it was dumb and typical then the Buu arc came... :lolno:
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Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:50 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
Wait are you talking Goku or Cell here? I'm not sure what the differences is :lol:.
Lol, I barely saw one while writing the comment too ;)

On a more serious note, speaking as a guy who generally doesn't like Goku, I think the fundamental difference between them is how they go about challenging someone. Cell is the guy who'll torture a 9 (10?) year old kid and all his friends just to get him to fight for real. Goku's just gonna pester you and probably try to pimp out Bulma to get what he wants.

They're both amoral as hell but Goku's never going to torture or threaten say Monaka's loved ones and family just to get him to fight.
It's why I hope Goku Black essentially Goku, not bullshitting. His evil is essentially what Goku already does, but the narrative doesn't paint him in a good picture. Just so characters can wonder if he's really that much more evil than Goku is.[/quote]

To quote myself from a Goku Black article: "That sounds way too cool to possibly happen."
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Post by Noah » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:53 pm

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Noah wrote:A little bit late to the party but god damn, I don't know what to say! Even though I liked "Black" Goku and expected he to have some evil facial expressions I say that I found extremely stupid that Mirai Trunks is pairing with Mai! I mean, it doesn't make a f*** sense! In his timeline there are no Dragonballs, even if he used those on Namek, how the f*** would Pilaf Gang go there and wish for their youth? It would make sense if this Mirai Trunks is actually the main Trunks of our timeline, it could even explain the blue hair, Trunks had achieved through harsh training some kind of variation of the SSGSS transformation and Mai age, but damn Toriyama what's the problem of introduce a new character to be Trunks's wife? Why recycle old characters? Darn it.
How about wait for an explanation.
I don't think we'll have one, like hell they didn't even explained how Pilaf Gang got young, we had several "filler" episodes, I wouldn't care about have one to actually explain what just happenned.
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jjgp1112 wrote:It feels weird that people are going "YET ANOTHER EVIL GOKU" when it's only been done once. In a movie. Or twice if you reeeeeeeeeeeeaaallly want to reach with Raditz.
Even weirder because nobody cares about Tullece or Raditz... at all
I don't get where people is getting that Raditz is somewhat a "Evil Goku"? They're even equal.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:58 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:]It's why I hope Goku Black essentially Goku, not bullshitting. His evil is essentially what Goku already does, but the narrative doesn't paint him in a good picture. Just so characters can wonder if he's really that much more evil than Goku is.
To quote myself from a Goku Black article: "That sounds way too cool to possibly happen."
I can already imagine

"Let's fight right here right now."
"But the people in this city could get hurt."
"Since when has that stopped us? Directly or indirectly we put people in harms way all the time."
"But your evil."
"Nah I just don't pretend we're not self centered."
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Post by SaiyanZ » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:04 pm

Mai being there makes sense if she used the Dragon Balls before Piccolo was killed.
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