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Kai is just a revamped of Z but it stands out has it own show as well.Metalwario64 wrote:Uh... Come again?Gotham22 wrote:Anyone who hasn't brought Kai yet. Please don't, you already have it.
Well, I disagree that it's "crap", but I will agree with you in the sense that using old music for a newer show is a bit questionable.Gotham22 wrote:what would be dumb is using old crap for a new show.penguintruth wrote:That's got to be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board.Gotham22 wrote:Z is not as soft show like DB so soft music doesn't fit period.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
Yes, because the music is the only difference between the two series.Gotham22 wrote:Kai is just a revamped of Z but it stands out has it own show as well.Metalwario64 wrote:Uh... Come again?Gotham22 wrote:Anyone who hasn't brought Kai yet. Please don't, you already have it.
By using the Z music then that part is lost of it standing out as it's own show.
The crap thing was out of anger. I do like the music but don't pefer it though I would prefer to have something that is legit and fresh for Kai.penguintruth wrote:
Well, I disagree that it's "crap", but I will agree with you in the sense that using old music for a newer show is a bit questionable.
If Kikuchi composed new music, that's one thing. But to use his old material, while I enjoy it, may create a contrary feeling to the intended "refreshed" feeling of Kai. So I'm quite conficted.
But at least we found some common ground.
Not only that But It ends with Cell and there is no Garlic Jr. unlike in Z.CODii wrote: Yes, because the music is the only difference between the two series.
What is there to be angry about?Gotham22 wrote:
The crap thing was out of anger. I do like the music but don't pefer it though I would prefer to have something that is legit and fresh for Kai.
Using old music of Kai.CODii wrote:What is there to be angry about?Gotham22 wrote:
The crap thing was out of anger. I do like the music but don't pefer it though I would prefer to have something that is legit and fresh for Kai.
Dude, if that's enough to make you angry, you need to step back and take a deep breath. That is as long as I am correct that you meant "Using old music for Kai."Gotham22 wrote:Using old music of Kai.CODii wrote:What is there to be angry about?Gotham22 wrote:
The crap thing was out of anger. I do like the music but don't pefer it though I would prefer to have something that is legit and fresh for Kai.
Hujio wrote:Not to interrupt this wonderful little "argument" going on here, but I thought I'd interject with this: Yamamoto is out! Kikuchi is back!
Okay, carry on...
Everything Yamamoto?!So that seems like confirmation then. Yamamoto is completely gone.Hujio wrote:Not to interrupt this wonderful little "argument" going on here, but I thought I'd interject with this: Yamamoto is out! Kikuchi is back!
Okay, carry on...
I can see maybe the use of the spurr-like sound as being an outdated element of Kikuchi's pieces. Some of the cheesy horn parts are a bit much, and especially some of the Buu-era music sound a little too like parade/carnival music, but I never said it was a perfect score, just the best one for this material (in most cases).Gaffer Tape wrote:To be honest, there are very few elements of Kikuchi's score I find to be dated at all. There are some early DB parts that really tap into that '80s synth vibe, but, for the most part, it's just orchestral, and that's always in style. It's not really period-specific. The audio quality we usually associate with DB makes it sound dated, but I think it feels completely new when listening to it on CD. It sounded perfectly natural and in-step when it was used for the JSAT, and that actually used NEW animation, which is something that Kai can't (often) say.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
I think that for the most part, everyone around here will agree that Yamamoto's work was at the very least decent. It's unfortunate that it seems that everything he did will be gone forever.penguintruth wrote: What I disliked about Yamamoto's pieces is that sometimes they sounded too "safe". Not "soft", mind you, but they didn't go the extra mile. Maybe that meant they were less exaggerated and garish, but on the other hand, it also meant they didn't quite paint an emotional tone as well, or did so very superficially. On the other hand, there were times that they fit rather well, so I can't deny that Yamamoto's work was fairly decent, at the very least.
Not for the people who have the DVDs/Blu-Rays and CD OSTs that already exist.CODii wrote:I think that for the most part, everyone around here will agree that Yamamoto's work was at the very least decent. It's unfortunate that it seems that everything he did will be gone forever.penguintruth wrote: What I disliked about Yamamoto's pieces is that sometimes they sounded too "safe". Not "soft", mind you, but they didn't go the extra mile. Maybe that meant they were less exaggerated and garish, but on the other hand, it also meant they didn't quite paint an emotional tone as well, or did so very superficially. On the other hand, there were times that they fit rather well, so I can't deny that Yamamoto's work was fairly decent, at the very least.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
Fair enough point. I guess what I was really trying to get at is the fact that it is a shame to see a man who has been with the series for so long dumped in this fashion. It's a major black eye on his career.penguintruth wrote:Not for the people who have the DVDs/Blu-Rays and CD OSTs that already exist.CODii wrote:
I think that for the most part, everyone around here will agree that Yamamoto's work was at the very least decent. It's unfortunate that it seems that everything he did will be gone forever.
That seems to be the case.Gotham22 wrote:I guess I should buy the Kai volumes as I can if I want to hear Yamamoto's score in the anime.
