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Oh goodie, he made a video over Battle of Gods 2 and Goku's mother. Lets see how this plays out.
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Quote from Unrealentgaming "Dragon ball z kai doesn't capture the emotion and performance that the original english dub did" 

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KentalSSJ6 wrote:Oh goodie, he made a video over Battle of Gods 2 and Goku's mother. Lets see how this plays out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFpSNS10x1I
He's SO certain there will be a Battle of Gods 2 with more Gods. He said its confirmed about 11 times, when nothings even announced yet. Just speculation.
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Lets see how much hate I get with the comment I posted on the matter. Cant wait to see how many nostalgia goggle wearing fans attack me like a horde of wolverines high on angel dust.Dbzfan94 wrote:Goku's mom is "Gee-nay"KentalSSJ6 wrote:Oh goodie, he made a video over Battle of Gods 2 and Goku's mother. Lets see how this plays out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFpSNS10x1I
And he's SO certain there will be a Battle of Gods 2 with more Gods. He said its confirmed about 11 times, when nothings even announced yet. Just speculation.
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So I'm not the only one who thinks this guy is a nutcase? Hes one of those guys that has that habit of self-confirming or hyping up rumours at face-value. He also conformed that whole thing about a new series and the multiple new god saga thing that was just a fan-rumour as well. I also dont remember seeing anything that said Vegeta was going to get an assured SSJ3 form. Has it been considered that they cant really promote it with SSJGod? SSJGod would basically nullify it the moment he gets it and the hype would die down for his dignification as a long awaited SSJ3.Dbzfan94 wrote:He's SO certain there will be a Battle of Gods 2 with more Gods. He said its confirmed about 11 times, when nothings even announced yet. Just speculation.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Oh goodie, he made a video over Battle of Gods 2 and Goku's mother. Lets see how this plays out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFpSNS10x1I
I prefer listening to Forneverworld, his enthusiasm is usually centered around whats actually confirmed and just gives out his optimysm not speculation bias.
Well in MY argument, Chris Sabat's new piccolo voice sounds rather bland and monotone.... where as the original throaty voice did have much more emotion... and Chris Ayres' Freeza sound a bit forced a lot of the time... but I can tell his perception is just that the nostalgia of new dialogue contrasting with what he memorized from the old one.. I mean the old dub gave vegeta some of the WORST dialogue I've ever heard; yet everyone seems to love THAT interpretation.JackyBoi99 wrote:Quote from Unrealentgaming "Dragon ball z kai doesn't capture the emotion and performance that the original english dub did"
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Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.
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I like Forn to a degree, but his GT hate and Goku VS Superman reaction video kinda turned me away from him.SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:So I'm not the only one who thinks this guy is a nutcase? Hes one of those guys that has that habit of self-confirming or hyping up rumours at face-value. He also conformed that whole thing about a new series and the multiple new god saga thing that was just a fan-rumour as well. I also dont remember seeing anything that said Vegeta was going to get an assured SSJ3 form. Has it been considered that they cant really promote it with SSJGod? SSJGod would basically nullify it the moment he gets it and the hype would die down for his dignification as a long awaited SSJ3.Dbzfan94 wrote:He's SO certain there will be a Battle of Gods 2 with more Gods. He said its confirmed about 11 times, when nothings even announced yet. Just speculation.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Oh goodie, he made a video over Battle of Gods 2 and Goku's mother. Lets see how this plays out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFpSNS10x1I
I prefer listening to Forneverworld, his enthusiasm is usually centered around whats actually confirmed and just gives out his optimysm not speculation bias.
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I know. To a degree, but with him I can at least find one. I tended to feel his Goku vs Superman reaction vid was a little over the top but I let him have it just being a reaction out of sheer shock and a little bias but, he is a Goku fanboy no doubt. However the more vocal Goku fanboys who despise comics and DC that I've encountered were far worse in their tantrum over it. The fact that Screwattack messed up was clear but their reasons why didnt at all prove Goku right. A lot of the worse fanboys who got butthurt said absolutely ridiculous things like "King Kai shoulda... Gogeta coulda....blah blah" though its not hard to consider Forneverworld a fanboy to a degree, his was just a reaction.KentalSSJ6 wrote:I like Forn to a degree, but his GT hate and Goku VS Superman reaction video kinda turned me away from him.
I find it a little funny how he gives himself and his followers such a huge pat on the back as if their begging and peading was what brought this into existance... when in reality it wasnt at all. It was his japanese fans and editors who got Akira to reconsider continuing Dragonball, he first gave Ooshi a student of his a test run as she claimed to be one of his biggest fans and he admittingly forgot most of DB's continuity. SO she wrote a fan manga, he approved it (Yo-Son Goku) and it became canon. Then She got to do Episode of Bardock to satisfy her extreme Bardock-fangirl love. Then Toei animated it as an addition to marketing Heroes. I dont even think its canon but the western fanboys seem to think it is... (yet I bet if it happened in GT, they'd be calling BS.) Any then people in his circle got him to work with them on BoG. Then Akira started to enjoy the series again and felt refreshed with BoG. Now he considers adding more to it for specific japanese fans to consider.Dbzfan94 wrote: He's SO certain there will be a Battle of Gods 2 with more Gods. He said its confirmed about 11 times, when nothings even announced yet. Just speculation.
In the bigger picture, the western fanbrat hordes had nothing to do with this and especially not this guy. Wow. Akiras probably never even spoken to any of these obnoxious western fanbrats before.
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Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.
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KentalSSJ6 wrote:Lets see how much hate I get with the comment I posted on the matter. Cant wait to see how many nostalgia goggle wearing fans attack me like a horde of wolverines high on angel dust.Dbzfan94 wrote:Goku's mom is "Gee-nay"KentalSSJ6 wrote:Oh goodie, he made a video over Battle of Gods 2 and Goku's mother. Lets see how this plays out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFpSNS10x1I
And he's SO certain there will be a Battle of Gods 2 with more Gods. He said its confirmed about 11 times, when nothings even announced yet. Just speculation.
I posted a comment too regarding how nothing is confirmed. I wonder what they'll say.
I honestly like ForneverWorld. in regards to his Superman VS Goku, I sorta agree on the winner, but feel Goku was calculated unfairly. (Don't want to turn this into a Goku vs Superman thread, just wanted to put that out there).
And the GT I can sort of understand. It's not horrible, but its certainly lackluster. I had my second watch through of GT recently and I thought something was just...missing. Couldn't put my finger on it.
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The GT hate is never even worth debating with its haters, they never have any solid reason why they absolutely oppose it, and look for plot-holed anywhere they can just to find something to hate. That side of the fanbase is just full of so much ignorance and contradiction I can never really call it a legit discussion topic. Basically everyone in the fanbase outside this site seems to make GT out to be a running gag and treat it like a dumpster for all the plotholes. Then they go on and on as if its honestly worse than the unwatchable Evolution fiasco. Especially on youtube, you won't find any less GT hatred than what the Ztards say about it... and yet these same people are the ones pissed off when Namco stopped including GT in the games or the first to choose SSJ4Goku/Gogeta in the Tenkaichi games. Seriously.AjayLikesGaming wrote:Oh, jeez. I know we're not meant to disparage other communities but what is wrong with that dude and his viewers. The sensationalist titles and poorly researched information are in complete abundance and barely any of his followers even question it.Duo wrote:I have a new one. The entirety of UnrealEntGaming's channel on Youtube.
This all just relates back to my biggest DB-related disappointment - the general fanbase. I have never seen a fanbase so divided and unaware. Naruto, One Piece and any other huge fanbase does not have a community as horrendous as this one. I don't even know who to blame for it. I don't understand it. It shouldn't bother me but christ, it makes me ashamed to admit I'm part of the fandom.
I like GT but cant look past its flaws, THEY only see GT as the butt of their invisionment of the franchise altogether like the "its not canon, it sucks" argument or how much they rage about Goku being a kid while claiming to like dragonball.
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Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.
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I don't like Movie 5. However, I do like Cooler and want him included in the games. I imagine similar logic is used by those who want SS4 Goku, SS4 Goku, SS4 Vegeta and Omega/Syn Shenron included in games.
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Well in MY argument, Chris Sabat's new piccolo voice sounds rather bland and monotone.... where as the original throaty voice did have much more emotion... and Chris Ayres' Freeza sound a bit forced a lot of the time... but I can tell his perception is just that the nostalgia of new dialogue contrasting with what he memorized from the old one.. I mean the old dub gave vegeta some of the WORST dialogue I've ever heard; yet everyone seems to love THAT interpretation.[/quote]JackyBoi99 wrote:Quote from Unrealentgaming "Dragon ball z kai doesn't capture the emotion and performance that the original english dub did"
I don't see how "everyone" loves that interpretation. Aside from a few YouTube comments, most people online seem to agree that the Kai dub is better than the Z dub, including me.
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Most if not all references to Vegeta are always based on the old dub. His huge obessive western fanbase existed long before Kai.WittyUsername wrote:I don't see how "everyone" loves that interpretation. Aside from a few YouTube comments, most people online seem to agree that the Kai dub is better than the Z dub, including me.
Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.
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Wow this certainly turned into a thread
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Well besides BoG and lack of SSj2 Goten in ANY Media. I found a new disappointment. Lack of What if characters in DBZ games every since Budokai 2. Hell lack of GOOD what ifs in video games. Every since Tenkaichi 2.

Well besides BoG and lack of SSj2 Goten in ANY Media. I found a new disappointment. Lack of What if characters in DBZ games every since Budokai 2. Hell lack of GOOD what ifs in video games. Every since Tenkaichi 2.
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That guy sound like that thief GojitaAF.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Oh goodie, he made a video over Battle of Gods 2 and Goku's mother. Lets see how this plays out.
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Non-saiyans getting the shaft in DBZ, and even more characters getting the shaft in GT.
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Can you imagine how much better every conversation on the internet would be if people understood what the word canon actually means and its application beyond nerd shit?SingleFringe&Sparks wrote: I like GT but cant look past its flaws, THEY only see GT as the butt of their invisionment of the franchise altogether like the "its not canon, it sucks" argument or how much they rage about Goku being a kid while claiming to like dragonball.
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In universe - Z's ending
Overall, more than a lot of the voice acting in the dub, the horrible scripts.
Overall, more than a lot of the voice acting in the dub, the horrible scripts.
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FUNi promising DB fans "something cool" for the DB anime or GT in 2012 for the 2013 season and then delivering nothing, speaking of which I just remembered I had actually posted a thread asking about the promised "something cool" for DB fans the very day before FUNi took their forums down for those few months last year I am so tempted to make that thread again and see what happens.
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