Official "Dragon Box: The Movies" Thread

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Post by Kaze no Mune » Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:22 am

Is it just me or do the backgrounds in the fourth image not match? :shock:
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Post by Tsukento » Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:36 am

Yeah, I happened to catch it at the wrong frame, but the image is still the same. :P Same cel put on a different background. That's how they recycle scenes without having to animate the same movements.

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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:06 am

Hm...interesting.

Well, I guess we can rule out FUNi using the full 4:3 image now, since it's obvious they zoom it as they do for the TV releases.

Zooming vs. Cropping. w00t. :P

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Post by Mr. Robot » Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:27 pm

I'm curious...what do you guys think about the Dragon Book? It seems pretty short. Also, it doesn't seem nearly as well done as the Z book (vol. 1, at least).

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Post by Tsukento » Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:18 pm

I can't say much since all I own are the GT and Movies Dragon Boxes. I'm content with what they've included, though it would be nice if someone translated that Movies FAQs page (hint hint).

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Post by sangofe » Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:38 pm

Finaly I have the last Dragonbox :)
Maybe I'll put up some pictures of my various boxes :P

Edit: the box fell down and got 2 littles scratches :S
And I can't find my batteries :(

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Post by DaemonCorps » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:36 pm

Well, since this is the DBox Movies Thread, not just the flaunt the fact that you have a DBox and I don't Thread, I have a question:

With the whole cropping of pictures thing, have there been some scenes in any of the movies in which the cropping has cut off something crucial to the movie, like half of a character's face for example?

My guess is that since the movies were originally released letterboxed, then the animators made sure to have everything centered so that viewers could get the gist (sp?) of the movie even with the top and bottom croppified.

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Post by lost in thought » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:49 pm

Well, I can't say the same for others, but when I've viewed the movies on my television in the livingroom, which is a nice 27', I barely even noticed the letter boxing, and when I did, it was because I was looking directly for it; and from watching the movies myself, in my own sweet time, what I have seen personally, the letter boxing had not damaged the presentation in that way.

As I mentioned, I can't say the same for others, but during reviewings, and first time viewings (since I haven't gotten around to watching everything, between my comparisons, copying the discs to rewriables for repeat wear and tear, working on my website, and playing Tales of Phantasia-- it's a bit of a stretch -- Heh.) if I should catch anything, I'll mention it.

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Post by Blitzen » Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:25 pm

DaemonCorps wrote:Well, since this is the DBox Movies Thread, not just the flaunt the fact that you have a DBox and I don't Thread, I have a question:

With the whole cropping of pictures thing, have there been some scenes in any of the movies in which the cropping has cut off something crucial to the movie, like half of a character's face for example?

My guess is that since the movies were originally released letterboxed, then the animators made sure to have everything centered so that viewers could get the gist (sp?) of the movie even with the top and bottom croppified.
A lot of people assumed that information would be lost because they did rough estimations of area taken from the widescreen "cropping" based on FUNimation's discs. But as we know now, FUNimation's master are already zoomed/cropped as it is, so they weren't the best judge of character. I've watched a lot of the movies, but honestly, unless you're nit-picking, then it's fine, especially when you consider how incredible it looks.

Also, even if they did include a "full screen" version on these discs, they wouldn't look anywhere near as fantastic as the widescreen versions.

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Post by DaemonCorps » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:11 pm

Blitzen wrote:But as we know now, FUNimation's master are already zoomed/cropped as it is, so they weren't the best judge of character. I've watched a lot of the movies, but honestly, unless you're nit-picking, then it's fine, especially when you consider how incredible it looks.
:?: So are you saying that FUNi's discs are cropped? Because they're not.

Here's EX's comparison pic:
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Daizenshuu EX Rumor Guide wrote:So here we are with tons of fans thinking they're getting the "original" format for their movies, completely oblivious as to the actual nature of the print. Along comes FUNimation (and in the case of movies 1-3, FUNimation / Pioneer), releasing all of the movies in full-screen!

Well, American fans... you're in for a treat. We're the ones getting the full picture... not the Japanese fans! FUNimation uses the original 4:3 prints, rather than using the same "cropping" / "covering" technique used by the Japanese.
But if you mean that FUNi's movies are slightly zoomed in as mentioned by previous posts, then yeah, they kinda are:
Daizenshuu EX Dragon Box: The Movies Feature wrote:[referring to above pic] Also notice how FUNimation's version seems to be zoomed-in slightly towards the lower area.
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Post by Tsukento » Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:32 pm

It's not the lower area, but rather the entire film that's slightly zoomed in on with FUNi's copies. It's VERY noticable with Dragon Ball movie 2. o_o;

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Post by Domon » Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:51 pm

I seem to recall there being some talk a while back about how the Dragonbox versions are actually zoomed out(I'm referring to the tv series now). If I'm remembering right, the pictures were originaly zoomed in(slighty) by Toei to hide certain problems, and that carried over to the Funimation version, since everyone was using the same slightly-cropped version. For the Dragonboxes, the technical problems were fixed, and the pictures were zoomed out so they could show as much "good footage" as possible.

I imagine this is the exact same thing going on with the movie Dragonbox.

So erm...blame Toei! Blame 'em for everything! (and sing to the tune of Blame Canada!)

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Post by Son Goku » Wed May 03, 2006 6:16 pm

Tsukento wrote: Image
This particular shot looks like it came from the Dr. Slump TV series, or possibly a movie of Dr. Slump.
That came from the opening theme song of the first Dr. Slump series.
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Post by Hero 004 » Tue May 09, 2006 10:01 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Hero 004 wrote:This set indeed looks very cool. I have a question. Was there an action figure included like the others, or did the scouters replace it?
DragonBox Z Vol. 1 - Goku figure
DragonBox Z Vol. 2 - Piccolo figure
DragonBox (DB) - Diarama of Tenkaichi Budokai
DragonBox (GT) - Dragon Radar remote
DragonBox The Movies - 2x Scouter walkie-talkies
Strongbad456 wrote:Would it be worth it to buy the movie box the next time I have $350?
If you can find it for $350, and don't mind the lack of subtitles and have a region free player, go for it. If any of the above don't jive...pass on it.

-Corey
Thanks for the info.

The reason I asked was because I saw two other figures made by Kaiyodo as well and I figured that they would be released in a future Dragon Box, but I guess they remained prototypes.

Here are the links:

Gohan- http://www.dragonballtoys.com/archive/ ... SS Goku- http://www.dragonballtoys.com/archive/i ... 50&ImgID=0
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Post by denitonis » Wed May 10, 2006 7:43 am

Well actually this are the sets in their full glory

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Post by El_Diablo » Wed May 10, 2006 1:34 pm

Hey, I just noticed that it's spelled "Goku" on the back of the action figure box. Isn't the "official" Japanese spelling "Gok0u"?
Where's the beef?

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Post by Grandmaster J » Wed May 10, 2006 3:03 pm

Just looking at those Dragon Box sets makes me want to rob a bank.

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Post by DB_Fan » Wed May 10, 2006 3:06 pm

Grandmaster J wrote:Just looking at those Dragon Box sets makes me want to rob a bank.
Yeah, me too. I am getting really jeleaous, I only have old VHS. :cry:

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Post by Kula » Wed May 10, 2006 4:41 pm

I've really not been interested in the Dragonboxes because of the lack of subtitles, but seeing them all together...they look freakin' gorgeous!
Maybe if I save up some money, I could track down some copies.

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Post by Blitzen » Wed May 10, 2006 5:07 pm

Kula wrote:I've really not been interested in the Dragonboxes because of the lack of subtitles, but seeing them all together...they look freakin' gorgeous!
Maybe if I save up some money, I could track down some copies.
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