The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Doctor. » Sat May 30, 2015 5:31 pm

Yea you're right, she couldn't, my mistake. Still, Daimao could fly better than Goku could in the 23rd Budokai and the latter is stronger.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat May 30, 2015 5:50 pm

Doctor. wrote:Yea you're right, she couldn't, my mistake. Still, Daimao could fly better than Goku could in the 23rd Budokai and the latter is stronger.
Though only by a narrow margin...
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat May 30, 2015 11:49 pm

Potara fusion of Jeice/Burter fusion and Guldo/Recoome fusion fused with Captain Ginyu

vs.

SSJ Goku (Freeza arc)
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun May 31, 2015 12:46 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:Potara fusion of Jeice/Burter fusion and Guldo/Recoome fusion fused with Captain Ginyu

vs.

SSJ Goku (Freeza arc)
SSJ Goku crushes the potara fused Ginyu Force squad.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Sun May 31, 2015 12:55 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:Potara fusion of Jeice/Burter fusion and Guldo/Recoome fusion fused with Captain Ginyu

vs.

SSJ Goku (Freeza arc)
Goku wins.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Sun May 31, 2015 9:14 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:Potara fusion of Jeice/Burter fusion and Guldo/Recoome fusion fused with Captain Ginyu

vs.

SSJ Goku (Freeza arc)
A fusion of two Ginyu-ranked soldiers is enough to compete with Freeza, so I think 2 or 3 of them is too much for Goku.

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sun May 31, 2015 10:38 pm

pre-merge Uub (Baby saga) vs. Base Rild

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Post by ZombieVito » Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:49 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:Potara fusion of Jeice/Burter fusion and Guldo/Recoome fusion fused with Captain Ginyu

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SSJ Goku (Freeza arc)
Goku gets one shotted.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:32 pm

Frieza after one week of training vs Super perfect Cell?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:34 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:Potara fusion of Jeice/Burter fusion and Guldo/Recoome fusion fused with Captain Ginyu

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SSJ Goku (Freeza arc)
A fusion of two Ginyu-ranked soldiers is enough to compete with Freeza, so I think 2 or 3 of them is too much for Goku.

Doubt that'll be the case. Assuming each Ginyu member has a battle power of 40,000, added together (80,000), they would need a 1,500 times multiplier to get to 120,000,000. I just don't see this happening.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:38 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:pre-merge Uub (Baby saga) vs. Base Rild
I'd give this to Rildo. Oob really wouldn't able to do much prior to fusing with Majin Boo in my eyes.
Berserker1921 wrote:Freeza after one week of training vs Super perfect Cell?
SPC still crushes Freeza.

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Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:43 pm

Berserker1921 wrote:Freeza after one week of training vs Super perfect Cell?
Cell kicks that little shrimps ass.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:03 pm

Berserker1921 wrote:Freeza after one week of training vs Super perfect Cell?
Super Perfect Cell still most likely wins. After only one week, I see Frieza possibly reaching 17/18 tier, if that.

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Post by Berserker1921 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:04 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:pre-merge Uub (Baby saga) vs. Base Rild
I'd give this to Rildo. Oob really wouldn't able to do much prior to fusing with Majin Boo in my eyes.
Berserker1921 wrote:Freeza after one week of training vs Super perfect Cell?
SPC still crushes Freeza.

He became essentially became three to four times stronger then Vegito in four months. Your saying one week wouldn't be enough?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:05 pm

supercat wrote:
Berserker1921 wrote:Freeza after one week of training vs Super perfect Cell?
Super Perfect Cell still most likely wins. After only one week, I see Freeza possibly reaching 17/18 tier, if that.
In four months he succeeded ssjgod goku ssj. Your telling me one week wouldn't make him more powerful then cell?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:31 pm

Berserker1921 wrote:
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Berserker1921 wrote:Freeza after one week of training vs Super perfect Cell?
Super Perfect Cell still most likely wins. After only one week, I see Freeza possibly reaching 17/18 tier, if that.
In four months he succeeded ssjgod goku ssj. Your telling me one week wouldn't make him more powerful then cell?
I just don't see him reaching SSJ2 tier in only one week. Of course, we don't know how he progresses, so at this point it's almost impossible to determine. I know I said 17/18 tier initially, but yes, I could see him passing this in a week actually. If obtaining a battle power comparable to 17/18 after a week seems too low, then somewhere around 2nd Grade SSJ Vegeta tier (Cell Games) on the lower end and Perfect Cell tier (against Goku) on the higher end seems reasonable.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:35 pm

supercat wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote: A fusion of two Ginyu-ranked soldiers is enough to compete with Freeza, so I think 2 or 3 of them is too much for Goku.
Doubt that'll be the case. Assuming each Ginyu member has a battle power of 40,000, added together (80,000), they would need a 1,500 times multiplier to get to 120,000,000. I just don't see this happening.

These are unpredictable matches if you ask me, anything is possible. But in return to your post, imagine if they multiply their BPs, like 11,000 x 11,000. They would have a BP comparable to [120,000,000] Freeza's figure.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by singsing » Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:50 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:
supercat wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote: A fusion of two Ginyu-ranked soldiers is enough to compete with Freeza, so I think 2 or 3 of them is too much for Goku.
Doubt that'll be the case. Assuming each Ginyu member has a battle power of 40,000, added together (80,000), they would need a 1,500 times multiplier to get to 120,000,000. I just don't see this happening.

These are unpredictable matches if you ask me, anything is possible. But in return to your post, imagine if they multiply their BPs, like 11,000 x 11,000. They would have a BP comparable to [120,000,000] Freeza's figure.
If they multiplied their power by 11k they would far surpass Freeza. I don't see the potara fusion being that potent even for Goku and Vegeta, much less the far less compatible Ginyu force

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:57 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:
supercat wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote: A fusion of two Ginyu-ranked soldiers is enough to compete with Freeza, so I think 2 or 3 of them is too much for Goku.
Doubt that'll be the case. Assuming each Ginyu member has a battle power of 40,000, added together (80,000), they would need a 1,500 times multiplier to get to 120,000,000. I just don't see this happening.

These are unpredictable matches if you ask me, anything is possible. But in return to your post, imagine if they multiply their BPs, like 11,000 x 11,000. They would have a BP comparable to [120,000,000] Freeza's figure.
Well, if you multiply one fusee's power with the other, then yeah, they could probably take Frieza down. You're right, these are unpredictable matches, and Potara fusion sort of adds onto that unpredictability. If we ignore specific numbers, I guess we can try to loosely compare something like this with the increase that Goku and Vegeta obtained when they became Vegetto. I always thought the gap between Goku / Vegeta and Buuhan was a lot smaller than Frieza and the members of the Ginyu Force, which is why I initially indicated that I can't see the Ginyu fusion winning. I guess anything is possible though!

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:01 pm

Yusuke (pre-revival) vs. Videl or Mr. Satan (prime)

Yusuke (Dark Tournament; Pre-Genkai power boost) vs. Goku (23rd Budokai; Weighted)

Yusuke (Post-Genkai power boost) vs. Goku (23rd Budokai; Unweighted @Tien)
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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