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supercat wrote:Not a fan of using filler characters in these hypothetical versus since the outcome could be all over the place but...
Grand Kai (World Tournament Saga) vs Freeza Final Form 100% (before training)
Grand Kai (World Tournament Saga) vs Kibito
-Freezasupercat wrote:supercat wrote:Not a fan of using filler characters in these hypothetical versus since the outcome could be all over the place but...
Grand Kai (World Tournament Saga) vs Freeza Final Form 100% (before training)
Grand Kai (World Tournament Saga) vs Kibito
Anyone going to answer this?
Lord Voldemort takes this with easeKamiccolo9 wrote:Babidi vs. Lord Voldemort
- Freeza stompssupercat wrote: Grand Kai (World Tournament Saga) vs Freeza Final Form 100% (before training)
Grand Kai (World Tournament Saga) vs Kibito
Freeza crushes KibitoshinHellspawn28 wrote:Kibitoshin vs. ROF Freeza
Rules:
Freeza is his first form and can't transform
This is Freeza after four months of training
Who wins?
- Kid Boo turns Shaw into candysupercat wrote:Sebastian Shaw (First Class) vs Kid Buu
Professor X vs Vegeta (Buu Arc)
Magneto vs Army of Meta-Coolers
Phoneix - Jean Grey vs Whis
Sebastian Shaw (First Class) vs Goku's Spirit Bomb (the one used against Kid Buu)
DBZ has no chance against extremely powerful psychics. 8, 16, 19, and maybe 20 and Buu could take Xavier. And don't give me the whole "Babidi couldn't control Vegeta" thing. That was a magical ability, not a mental one, and Xavier has faaaaaar greater feats than Babidi. Thor's got just as much pride as Vegeta, and Xavier handled him just fine.supercat wrote:Sebastian Shaw (First Class) vs Kid Buu
Professor X vs Vegeta (Buu Arc)
Magneto vs Army of Meta-Coolers
Phoneix - Jean Grey vs Whis
Sebastian Shaw (First Class) vs Goku's Spirit Bomb (the one used against Kid Buu)
Cipher wrote:If Vegeta does not kill Gohan, I will stop illegally streaming the series.
Malik_DBNA wrote:"Achievement Unlocked: Rule 34"Scarz wrote:Malik, stop. People are asking me for lewd art of possessed Bra (with Vegeta).
Won't get past Raditz.fadeddreams5 wrote:Yusuke Urameshi (end of Yu Yu Hakusho) gauntlet:
> Yamcha (21st Tenkaichi)
> Krillin (21st Tenkaichi)
> Goku (21st Tenkaichi)
> Jackie Chun
> Mercenary Tao
> Tenshinhan (22nd Tenkaichi)
> Goku (22nd Tenkaichi)
> Tambourine
> Drum
> King Piccolo
> Goku (King Piccolo arc)
> Krillin (23rd Tenkaichi)
> Tenshinhan (23rd Tenkaichi)
> Piccolo (23rd Tenkaichi)
> Goku (23rd Tenkaichi)
> Saibaman
> Raditz
> Nappa
> Vegeta (Saiyan saga)
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
Hits a brick wall against Nappafadeddreams5 wrote:Yusuke Urameshi (end of Yu Yu Hakusho) gauntlet:
> Yamcha (21st Tenkaichi)
> Krillin (21st Tenkaichi)
> Goku (21st Tenkaichi)
> Jackie Chun
> Mercenary Tao
> Tenshinhan (22nd Tenkaichi)
> Goku (22nd Tenkaichi)
> Tambourine
> Drum
> King Piccolo
> Goku (King Piccolo arc)
> Krillin (23rd Tenkaichi)
> Tenshinhan (23rd Tenkaichi)
> Piccolo (23rd Tenkaichi)
> Goku (23rd Tenkaichi)
> Saibaman
> Raditz
> Nappa
> Vegeta (Saiyan saga)
Doesn't get past General BlueDBZAOTA482 wrote:Akane Tendo runs the Dragon Ball Gaunlet:
Normal/Peak humans:
1. Ranfan
2. Mr. Satan
3. Videl
4. Colonel Violet
5. Man-Wolf
6. Ninja Murasaki
7. Pamput
If she beats all the human level fighters, have her fight low-tier superhumans:
1. Bora
2. Nam
3. General Blue
4. Mummy-kun
Cipher wrote:If Vegeta does not kill Gohan, I will stop illegally streaming the series.
Malik_DBNA wrote:"Achievement Unlocked: Rule 34"Scarz wrote:Malik, stop. People are asking me for lewd art of possessed Bra (with Vegeta).
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
Oooooooooohhhhhh movies.singsing wrote:Thor and Phoenix stomp everyone on that list? Heck no, I don't think they'd make it past the DB era characters tbh. I'm fairly certain he means movie versions no?
Cipher wrote:If Vegeta does not kill Gohan, I will stop illegally streaming the series.
Malik_DBNA wrote:"Achievement Unlocked: Rule 34"Scarz wrote:Malik, stop. People are asking me for lewd art of possessed Bra (with Vegeta).
Goten has no chance against Chaozu's psychic abilities. He also has nothing going on up stairs, so it's not like he'll be able to strategize like Krillin did.Kid Buu wrote:Chaozu vs Goten at equal power levels.
Why is Movie Thor "weird"? There's some inconsistency with him, like other MCU characters, but not a ridiculous amount.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Oooooooooohhhhhh movies.singsing wrote:Thor and Phoenix stomp everyone on that list? Heck no, I don't think they'd make it past the DB era characters tbh. I'm fairly certain he means movie versions no?
Movie Phoenix has the power to instantly destabilize matter on a molecular level. Wolverine was able to survive because Adamantium is the densest possible element there is, and due to his healing factor supporting it. She has the power to take everyone in DB besides maybe Buu, due to matter manipulation and telepathy, but, conversely, she doesn't have especially impressive durability. So, it depends on if they can react to her fast enough.
Movie Thor is.....weird. I'm not really sure where to place him.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
Chaozu wins pretty easily.Kid Buu wrote:Chaozu vs Goten at equal power levels.
Well I was initially thinking of the movie versions of each character, but now I'm interested in seeing what you all have to say about both versions.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Oooooooooohhhhhh movies.singsing wrote:Thor and Phoenix stomp everyone on that list? Heck no, I don't think they'd make it past the DB era characters tbh. I'm fairly certain he means movie versions no?
Movie Phoenix has the power to instantly destabilize matter on a molecular level. Wolverine was able to survive because Adamantium is the densest possible element there is, and due to his healing factor supporting it. She has the power to take everyone in DB besides maybe Buu, due to matter manipulation and telepathy, but, conversely, she doesn't have especially impressive durability. So, it depends on if they can react to her fast enough.
Movie Thor is.....weird. I'm not really sure where to place him.
Beerus and Whis have demonstrated no resistance against any kind of matter manipulation. I don't give people abilities that they have not demonstrated.supercat wrote:Well I was initially thinking of the movie versions of each character, but now I'm interested in seeing what you all have to say about both versions.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Oooooooooohhhhhh movies.singsing wrote:Thor and Phoenix stomp everyone on that list? Heck no, I don't think they'd make it past the DB era characters tbh. I'm fairly certain he means movie versions no?
Movie Phoenix has the power to instantly destabilize matter on a molecular level. Wolverine was able to survive because Adamantium is the densest possible element there is, and due to his healing factor supporting it. She has the power to take everyone in DB besides maybe Buu, due to matter manipulation and telepathy, but, conversely, she doesn't have especially impressive durability. So, it depends on if they can react to her fast enough.
Movie Thor is.....weird. I'm not really sure where to place him.
If movie Phoenix is quick to attack first and doesn't leave herself vulnerable to attack, I could see her crushing everyone on that list with the possible exclusion of Beerus, Whis, and Buu (thanks to regeneration). Although, I'm wondering if she may be able to wipe Buu out completely like the Spirit Bomb did.
Xavier's telepathy is definitely a unique ability, that in my opinion outweighs any psychic power and/or magical ability displayed in DBZ. Therefore, I could see him going pretty far and definitely causing some major damage to both the villains and Z-Fighters. Since he probably can't control the mechanical androids and possibly Buu, I could see him manipulating someone like Golden Freeza or Goku to trash them. That is, if he could somehow access their minds before they even meet in battle, since they are lower down on the list. Do you really think he can control Whis and Beerus too though?
As for Wolverine, without the usage of ki blasts, don't you think he can do pretty well in hand to hand combat against at least Raditz arc Piccolo and Goku or even Raditz himself? Movie Wolverine also seemed to have displayed some insane amount of durability and regeneration. I always felt that he could at least tangle with Nappa if not higher.
Shaw (from First Class, not the one from the comics) never showed any indication that his energy absorption has limits. Assuming he can absorb a blast equivalent to one solar system buster, and can absorb higher amounts as long as done so in multiple increments, don't you think he'd at least get to SSJ2 tier? I'm not sure why, but I just see Shaw (First Class) being able to cause some considerable damage to the DBZ universe with an insane amount of room for energy absorption. Assuming he could also seemingly absorb punches and kicks, I don't see how he wouldn't do well.
Cipher wrote:If Vegeta does not kill Gohan, I will stop illegally streaming the series.
Malik_DBNA wrote:"Achievement Unlocked: Rule 34"Scarz wrote:Malik, stop. People are asking me for lewd art of possessed Bra (with Vegeta).
What.I feel that movie Thor with his hammer is at or around Final Form Freeza 100% (before training).
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
supercat wrote:Well I was initially thinking of the movie versions of each character, but now I'm interested in seeing what you all have to say about both versions.
If movie Phoenix is quick to attack first and doesn't leave herself vulnerable to attack, I could see her crushing everyone on that list with the possible exclusion of Beerus, Whis, and Buu (thanks to regeneration). Although, I'm wondering if she may be able to wipe Buu out completely like the Spirit Bomb did.
Xavier's telepathy is definitely a unique ability, that in my opinion outweighs any psychic power and/or magical ability displayed in DBZ. Therefore, I could see him going pretty far and definitely causing some major damage to both the villains and Z-Fighters. Since he probably can't control the mechanical androids and possibly Buu, I could see him manipulating someone like Golden Freeza or Goku to trash them. That is, if he could somehow access their minds before they even meet in battle, since they are lower down on the list. Do you really think he can control Whis and Beerus too though?
As for Wolverine, without the usage of ki blasts, don't you think he can do pretty well in hand to hand combat against at least Raditz arc Piccolo and Goku or even Raditz himself? Movie Wolverine also seemed to have displayed some insane amount of durability and regeneration. I always felt that he could at least tangle with Nappa if not higher.
Shaw (from First Class, not the one from the comics) never showed any indication that his energy absorption has limits. Assuming he can absorb a blast equivalent to one solar system buster, and can absorb higher amounts as long as done so in multiple increments, don't you think he'd at least get to SSJ2 tier? I'm not sure why, but I just see Shaw (First Class) being able to cause some considerable damage to the DBZ universe with an insane amount of room for energy absorption. Assuming he could also seemingly absorb punches and kicks, I don't see how he wouldn't do well.
Sorry, I edited my last post by adding in something regarding movie Thor.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Beerus and Whis have demonstrated no resistance against any kind of matter manipulation. I don't give people abilities that they have not demonstrated.
Same with telepathy. At least for the "Marvel brand of telepathy," physical strength is irrelevant when it comes to mental defense. You can't punch or blast some guy out of your brain. I didn't take into account him controlling a third party, though, since that wasn't specified in the original.
Wolverine's probably a better fighter than anyone we've seen in Dragon Ball, and he's got the durability to hang with them until the really crazy stuff starts happening, but his biggest problem is speed. Wolverine's not all that much faster than a normal human, while these guy's are zipping around faster than the eye can see. Sometimes. On a good day.
Shaw never absorbed anything bigger than a relatively small bomb, if I recall correctly. There's a huge assumption that that means he has no limits. His biggest problem, though, is that he starts off weak. He can absorb stuff, sure, but that's not gonna stop one of the freaks from the 21st Budokai on from just ripping his head off. Comic Shaw has better feats, but even then...
