Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by Hakaishin Liquir » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:29 pm

Ribrianne looked like garbage in this episode. For CJS's sake, I hope that Ribrianne was just dicking around a lot in this episode.

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Post by Zamasu55 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:38 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Zamasu55 wrote:The strongest fighter from Universe 2 is Base Saiyan tier. Woah, disappointing. Plus she was getting beat up by Base Vegeta, when he fought her evenly as a Super Saiyan? Yeah, all clear. But the anime's better than the manga1!1
How did you come to that conclusion when there are still fighters from Universe 2 we haven't seen in action yet?
The main characters of the arc, so the strongest fighters in the Tournament are those Toyotaro drew for that V Jump magazine, and Ribrianne's one of them.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:40 pm

Zamasu55 wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Zamasu55 wrote:The strongest fighter from Universe 2 is Base Saiyan tier. Woah, disappointing. Plus she was getting beat up by Base Vegeta, when he fought her evenly as a Super Saiyan? Yeah, all clear. But the anime's better than the manga1!1
How did you come to that conclusion when there are still fighters from Universe 2 we haven't seen in action yet?
The main characters of the arc, so the strongest fighters in the Tournament are those Toyotaro drew for that V Jump magazine, and Ribrianne's one of them.
You're determining who the strongest characters are in the Tournament Of Power based off of a magazine cover? Dude, c'mon...

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Post by Lord Frieza » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:44 pm

Spoilers

[spoiler]Hold on a sec...... If Goku was using SSBKKx20 right of the bat....then when Jiren almost hit him out of bound it took Goku's full power just to stop himself enough to grab the ledge! Dame![/spoiler]

Aslo with the revelastion of Jiren being the "Mortal Stronger then a GoD" I ges that means that within the anime either Jiren beat the crap out Quitela or Belmod was the one to beat Beerus at arm wrestling.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:45 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Zamasu55 wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: How did you come to that conclusion when there are still fighters from Universe 2 we haven't seen in action yet?
The main characters of the arc, so the strongest fighters in the Tournament are those Toyotaro drew for that V Jump magazine, and Ribrianne's one of them.
You're determining who the strongest characters are in the Tournament Of Power based off of a magazine cover? Dude, c'mon...
Don't know what's weird about it.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:47 pm

Zamasu55 wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Zamasu55 wrote: The main characters of the arc, so the strongest fighters in the Tournament are those Toyotaro drew for that V Jump magazine, and Ribrianne's one of them.
You're determining who the strongest characters are in the Tournament Of Power based off of a magazine cover? Dude, c'mon...
Don't know what's weird about it.
Because a magazine cover means nothing. Those kind of things exist solely to promote the most marketable characters. Not the strongest characters.

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Post by pacz360 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:07 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Zamasu55 wrote:The strongest fighter from Universe 2 is Base Saiyan tier. Woah, disappointing. Plus she was getting beat up by Base Vegeta, when he fought her evenly as a Super Saiyan? Yeah, all clear. But the anime's better than the manga1!1
How did you come to that conclusion when there are still fighters from Universe 2 we haven't seen in action yet?
More importantly how he came to the conclusion she base saiyans tier
The butch even shook off a kick from ssjb goku

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Post by pacz360 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:08 pm

So jiren and vermoud are stronger than beerus

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Post by Doctor. » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:09 pm

Hakaishin Liquir wrote:Ribrianne looked like garbage in this episode. For CJS's sake, I hope that Ribrianne was just dicking around a lot in this episode.
More like SS Vegeta and #17 were dicking around with her. She's just trash.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:10 pm

Oddly the gods didn't seem as mind blown as when Goku first went Blue in the exhibition match. Or at least not until the movement thing happened. Before that they don't seem blown away oddly.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:22 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Oddly the gods didn't seem as mind blown as when Goku first went Blue in the exhibition match. Or at least not until the movement thing happened. Before that they don't seem blown away oddly.
I think it was the pure shock to see that such a mere mortal like Goku could not only wield God ki, but utilise to such a high efficiency in the manner he did though Super Saiyan Blue. As far as the rest of the Hakaishin and Kaioshin were concerned, God ki was reversed for them and them only. And seeing a guy like Goku, who had already displayed such a flippant and nonchalant attitude to beings on a much higher ranking on the power and authority chain in the multiverse, flaunting around a mystical power like so willy-nilly must have been such a shock to the system for them. The concept of mortal rivalling a God in power seemed to be unknown to most of the other Hakaishin and Kaioshin. And they especially couldn't believe that a guy like Goku could be that strong.
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Post by supersaiyangodgogeta » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:24 pm

Ssj Vegeta probably would've one shotted ribrianne with his punch but he was too grossed out to hit her.

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Post by pacz360 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:28 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Hakaishin Liquir wrote:Ribrianne looked like garbage in this episode. For CJS's sake, I hope that Ribrianne was just dicking around a lot in this episode.
More like SS Vegeta and #17 were dicking around with her. She's just trash.
Yes let's ignore her fucking with ssj vegeta
Trading blows with 17 who sure as hell wasn't fucking around like he did with her teammate and admitted she wasnt bad
Tank attacks from base goku
Even came right back up from a kick from ssjb goku

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by pacz360 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:29 pm

supersaiyangodgogeta wrote:Ssj Vegeta probably would've one shotted ribrianne with his punch but he was too grossed out to hit her.
Not even

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Post by Doctor. » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:47 pm

pacz360 wrote:Yes let's ignore her fucking with ssj vegeta
Let's ignore Vegeta fucking around with her, too. He couldn't even hit her due to how ugly she was.
pacz360 wrote:Trading blows with 17 who sure as hell wasn't fucking around like he did with her teammate and admitted she wasnt bad
#17 was pretending to be a bad guy to further her narrative of being a magical girl. He was clearly fucking around.
Pacz360 wrote:Tank attacks from base goku
Base Goku dodged and tanked numerous attacks from Super Ribrianne.
pacz360 wrote:Even came right back up from a kick from ssjb goku
So did a lot of characters. SSB Goku has a tendency to hold back, not sure if you're aware.

We have more to prove that she's weak than we have to prove she's strong. Everyone should give it a rest already.

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Post by SuperDragoon » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:08 pm

Doctor. wrote:
pacz360 wrote:Yes let's ignore her fucking with ssj vegeta
Let's ignore Vegeta fucking around with her, too. He couldn't even hit her due to how ugly she was.
pacz360 wrote:Trading blows with 17 who sure as hell wasn't fucking around like he did with her teammate and admitted she wasnt bad
#17 was pretending to be a bad guy to further her narrative of being a magical girl. He was clearly fucking around.
Pacz360 wrote:Tank attacks from base goku
Base Goku dodged and tanked numerous attacks from Super Ribrianne.
pacz360 wrote:Even came right back up from a kick from ssjb goku
So did a lot of characters. SSB Goku has a tendency to hold back, not sure if you're aware.

We have more to prove that she's weak than we have to prove she's strong. Everyone should give it a rest already.
1. Evidence Vegeta was holding back?
2. Evidence 17 was holding back?
3. Ribrianne easily blocked and dodged Base Goku and kept him on the defense.
4. The fact he went Blue at all is evidence. He hit Ribrianne while she was off guard and she wasn't knocked out or hurt too badly.

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Post by Doctor. » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:17 pm

SuperDragoon wrote:1. Evidence Vegeta was holding back?
2. Evidence 17 was holding back?
Evidence they were at full power?
SuperDragoon wrote:3. Ribrianne easily blocked and dodged Base Goku and kept him on the defense.
And base Goku easily blocked and dodged all of her attacks. Again, give it up already.
SuperDragoon wrote:4. The fact he went Blue at all is evidence. He hit Ribrianne while she was off guard and she wasn't knocked out or hurt too badly.
Tell that to Nink, Kuririn and whoever else he has gone SSB for unnecessarily.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by pacz360 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:18 pm

Doctor. wrote:
pacz360 wrote:Yes let's ignore her fucking with ssj vegeta
Let's ignore Vegeta fucking around with her, too. He couldn't even hit her due to how ugly she was.
pacz360 wrote:Trading blows with 17 who sure as hell wasn't fucking around like he did with her teammate and admitted she wasnt bad
#17 was pretending to be a bad guy to further her narrative of being a magical girl. He was clearly fucking around.
Pacz360 wrote:Tank attacks from base goku
Base Goku dodged and tanked numerous attacks from Super Ribrianne.
pacz360 wrote:Even came right back up from a kick from ssjb goku
So did a lot of characters. SSB Goku has a tendency to hold back, not sure if you're aware.

We have more to prove that she's weak than we have to prove she's strong. Everyone should give it a rest already.
1.prove vegeta was holding back on her and was fucking around as well
2.17 admitted she wasn't bad and broke his barrier and thus is the same that dominated ssj goku and traded blows with ssjb while both were holding back
3.never seen him tanked her attacks. Dodge sure tanked no
4.list examples of fucker tanking hits from ssjb goku in the top I'll wait
You do realize this is toei right the same toei that had base goku tank attacks from toppo who nearly killed him in his ssj and base right? Don't pretend toei doesn't fuck up with character portrayal The same toei that had base vegeta dispatching obuni who turned out to be equal to base gohan
Don't try that bullshit with me with that everyone should give it rest crap don't try it

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by pacz360 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:19 pm

SuperDragoon wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
pacz360 wrote:Yes let's ignore her fucking with ssj vegeta
Let's ignore Vegeta fucking around with her, too. He couldn't even hit her due to how ugly she was.
pacz360 wrote:Trading blows with 17 who sure as hell wasn't fucking around like he did with her teammate and admitted she wasnt bad
#17 was pretending to be a bad guy to further her narrative of being a magical girl. He was clearly fucking around.
Pacz360 wrote:Tank attacks from base goku
Base Goku dodged and tanked numerous attacks from Super Ribrianne.
pacz360 wrote:Even came right back up from a kick from ssjb goku
So did a lot of characters. SSB Goku has a tendency to hold back, not sure if you're aware.

We have more to prove that she's weak than we have to prove she's strong. Everyone should give it a rest already.
1. Evidence Vegeta was holding back?
2. Evidence 17 was holding back?
3. Ribrianne easily blocked and dodged Base Goku and kept him on the defense.
4. The fact he went Blue at all is evidence. He hit Ribrianne while she was off guard and she wasn't knocked out or hurt too badly.
Apparently our heroes were fucking with her despite evidence on the contrary :yawn:

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Post by Marlowe89 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:39 pm

I've said it before -- I've had no issues with most of the tournament's power-scaling, but it's increasingly harder to deny just how incongruous Ribrianne's power is in general. I'm not even sure the writers knew how strong she was supposed to be, maybe there was some miscommunication within the staff. Super Saiyan Vegeta might have been massively holding back, but even that seems like a rather Watsonian attempt to explain away what appears to just be a straight-up inconsistency on a surface level.

I expect that the manga will (probably) clear this one up.
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