Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Dyno]

-Are we ever going to see the Saiyan conflict that lead to the creation of the original SSj God? (Saiyan's history in general)

We surely should see that, but instead... We get to see Freeza coming back yet again.

-Did Goku ever learn about his parents true feelings for him when he spent the 7 years in the afterlife? Jaco's story showed us they actually cared for him, even promised him they would go get him back if everything was fine. Gine seemed to love him enough to look distraught as he left. I feel is a damn tragedy Goku lived believing they were horrible people who didn't give a damn about him. I guess Bardock would have been sent to hell either way (killed too many people), but Gine might have been able to make it to Heaven, so I hope she might had the chance to let him know.

Don't think so. And answering your first question, I would love if Gine also survived, but didn't know how to contact or to get to Earth, that's why she didn't appear earlier. Again... Vegeta also killed many Namekuseijins and was ressurected, not a big deal at all.

- Is the "Time Patrol" from Xenoverse and (previously) DBO a real thing in the manga canon?

Unfortunately, no.

[GoldLiger]

First of all the anime didn't change anything that the manga didn't already made when it comes to Goku's traits. If he didn't care about others his transformation into a Super Saiyan would never had happen PERIOD.

[ShadowWolf87]

First of all the anime didn't change anything that the manga didn't already made when it comes to Goku's traits. If he didn't care about others his transformation into a Super Saiyan would never had happen PERIOD.

No one said he doesn't care about others. Simply that he fights primarily for his own reasons. It's why he opted to let Vegeta go. Feels a lot more out of character in the anime than in the manga. It's a subtle thing, but it's there.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

This fan-art is amazing:

https://twitter.com/dragongarowLEE/stat ... 6793302016

[GoldLiger]

First of all the anime didn't change anything that the manga didn't already made when it comes to Goku's traits. If he didn't care about others his transformation into a Super Saiyan would never had happen PERIOD.

No one said he doesn't care about others. Simply that he fights primarily for his own reasons. It's why he opted to let Vegeta go. Feels a lot more out of character in the anime than in the manga. It's a subtle thing, but it's there.

But the anime did always showcased Goku's excitement when it came to fighting strong opponents. When he came to Earth it was 100% his reasoning. When he grew up with Gohan it became 80%. And finally when he came to have a family it became 50%. He may enjoy fighting strong opponents but he doesn't forget the reasons he was fighting his opponents. So Goku is both 50% battle hungry and 50% righteous hero. And the manga showed us this.

[fadeddreams5]

I like that fanart, but it reminded me of one thing: Cooler's ears (?) are weird.

You can stick your whole hand in there and touch his brain...

[Dyno]

This fan-art is amazing:

https://twitter.com/dragongarowLEE/stat ... 6793302016

Just missing a Chilled picture on the wall, but awesome image indeed.

[FortuneSSJ]

This fan-art is amazing:

https://twitter.com/dragongarowLEE/stat ... 6793302016

I found this one in that twitter and its pretty epic.

[ShadowWolf87]

First of all the anime didn't change anything that the manga didn't already made when it comes to Goku's traits. If he didn't care about others his transformation into a Super Saiyan would never had happen PERIOD.

No one said he doesn't care about others. Simply that he fights primarily for his own reasons. It's why he opted to let Vegeta go. Feels a lot more out of character in the anime than in the manga. It's a subtle thing, but it's there.

But the anime did always showcased Goku's excitement when it came to fighting strong opponents. When he came to Earth it was 100% his reasoning. When he grew up with Gohan it became 80%. And finally when he came to have a family it became 50%. He may enjoy fighting strong opponents but he doesn't forget the reasons he was fighting his opponents. So Goku is both 50% battle hungry and 50% righteous hero. And the manga showed us this.

It showed excitement, but it was never implied that excitement was his sole motivation. Vegeta pointed out as much in his monologue during the Buu fight, but it's not seen all that much in the anime. Goku fights to become stronger, to push himself, to test his limits and rise above them, he doesn't care who or why or who whomever is, if they're strong or stronger than him, he wants a crack at them. It's why he was so eager to fight Beerus, not because he was a bad guy, or perceived as one, but for the sheer thrill of fighting someone said to be at an impossibly high level.

The manga never loses sight of this fact. The anime, however, does, complete with additional flashbacks and monologues to give him more "reason to fight" that he doesn't need. This person is there. They're strong. They're a test of his skills. He wants to fight them. Everything else is in the background of Goku's mind. He can understand WHY a fight is important, he can grasp when his family and friends need him, but deep down, in his instinct, he wants that fight, and he won't be happy if he doesn't get it.

The anime has those moments on occasion, but they feel a bit ooc for him there. Not so in the manga.

[Cetra]

I never had the feeling Goku was not fighting for his own selfish reasons. Vegeta explained Goku in a nutshell: A Saiyan who has someone to protect just like he also has (so the not selfish side) but also fights because he wants to challenge himself, push himself even further (the selfish side) and that this reason to fight, the merciful Saiyan who loves to battle annoys Vegeta.

Kaioh: "Do not lay a hand on Freeza!"
Goku: "Is Freeza strong? I will lay a hand on Freeza!"
Kaioh: "No, you DON'T!"

However generally, it is more subtle with Goku as he is not the kind of anti hero who does not seem to care about others yet secretly does. We very well know he does so one gets mixed with the other in his character.

[GoldLiger]

I never had the feeling Goku was not fighting for his own selfish reasons. Vegeta explained Goku in a nutshell: A Saiyan who has someone to protect just like he also has (so the not selfish side) but also fights because he wants to challenge himself, push himself even further (the selfish side) and that this reason to fight, the merciful Saiyan who loves to battle annoys Vegeta.

Kaioh: "Do not lay a hand on Freeza!"
Goku: "Is Freeza strong? I will lay a hand on Freeza!"
Kaioh: "No, you DON'T!"

However generally, it is more subtle with Goku as he is not the kind of anti hero who does not seem to care about others yet secretly does. We very well know he does so one gets mixed with the other in his character.

Like I said 50/50

[Cetra]

I never had the feeling Goku was not fighting for his own selfish reasons. Vegeta explained Goku in a nutshell: A Saiyan who has someone to protect just like he also has (so the not selfish side) but also fights because he wants to challenge himself, push himself even further (the selfish side) and that this reason to fight, the merciful Saiyan who loves to battle annoys Vegeta.

Kaioh: "Do not lay a hand on Freeza!"
Goku: "Is Freeza strong? I will lay a hand on Freeza!"
Kaioh: "No, you DON'T!"

However generally, it is more subtle with Goku as he is not the kind of anti hero who does not seem to care about others yet secretly does. We very well know he does so one gets mixed with the other in his character.

Like I said 50/50

I think Akira Toriyama was a bit too focused on one side with his interviews and that is all. He wanted to point out something that he thought would not necessarily be seen (which is reasonable as this is normally not completely blunt) and now it seems like the other characteristic is completely ignored. But I think that is not actually the intention.

[Lord Beerus]

This fan-art is amazing:

https://twitter.com/dragongarowLEE/stat ... 6793302016

Freakin amazing!

[Mewzard]

That retcon of Goku's origins made Goku to be exactly like Superman.

You mean that retcon in 1989 that made him an alien that got sent from his home planet just before it was destroyed, being raised by a human, taking their name, and growing up to eventually save the Earth?

Seriously, Goku's origin was retconned to something Superman like long before DB Minus. Far more was changed from Sun Wukong-esque monkey man in the mountains to alien than the specific details given in Minus.

This fan-art is amazing:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBGmkICXIAAFq9j.jpg
https://twitter.com/dragongarowLEE/stat ... 6793302016

That is just delightful. I wonder if Toriyama would ever make Kuriza canon by bringing him into one of these movies...

Either way, can't wait to see the movie. Will be something else to be sure (too bad most of my DBZ friends aren't willing to give the modern movies a chance).

[soulnova]

Goku was certainly fighting to protect his "loved ones" up to the early Saiyan saga. As its been said above... I would put it 50/50.

There are several points in the story where he is not simply fighting for the sake of fighting. Let's see...

-Pilaf saga. Here he went to explore with Bulma and to become stronger. Alright, yes, get stronger theme point.
-Red Ribbon Saga. First he fought to get back his Dragonball, then to save Jingle Village, and finally to avenge/revive Upa's father.
-King Piccoro Saga. Fighting for revenge for killing Krillin and Roshi and to stop him.
-Saiyan saga. He sacrificed himself to save Gohan and the others. He was aware the Saiyans would purge the planet if he didn't stop them in a year's time.
-Freeza Saga. He did started out wanting to face Freeza as final goal.

After that, yeah, his "Saiyan side" started to be much more noticeable. He still had his friends and family's safety at heart... but he might had screw up with the method he thought would be the best to solve things.... 50/50 indeed

[Ex-Dubbie369]

That retcon of Goku's origins made Goku to be exactly like Superman.

You mean that retcon in 1989 that made him an alien that got sent from his home planet just before it was destroyed, being raised by a human, taking their name, and growing up to eventually save the Earth?

Seriously, Goku's origin was retconned to something Superman like long before DB Minus. Far more was changed from Sun Wukong-esque monkey man in the mountains to alien than the specific details given in Minus.

I think that people are not wording their criticism of Minus properly. Yes, Goku's origin, as revealed in 1989, (or is it '88? I don't know when the manga chapter came out) definitely brings about a Superman comparison, but Minus doesn't just have Kakarot filling the Kal-El role, but gives Bardock and the newly introduced Gine the Jor-El and Lara role, which was stupid and derivative considering that Bardock had a perfectly good personality and story already.

I think its funny given the interviews posted today where Toriyama is essentially criticizing the Toei characterization of Goku (probably mostly in the context of GT), and then goes around and takes a character he did not create, and decides to screw up his personality. Sounds kind of petty, huh?

[SaiyaJedi]

The preview screening is at what time, exactly? I now it's 3 days from now, but in terms of hours.

The event starts at 6:30 p.m., so the movie will probably begin by 7:00 and be over before 9:00.

9:00pm is 10:00am EST.
I'm totally gonna be away. T_T

It's actually 8:00 a.m. EDT. (It'd be 7:00 a.m. EST, but we're in the wrong season for that.)
Depending on the circumstances, you might be around when it concludes (though I might not be immediately available).

Are these previews just a one day only thing or are there more of them prior to the 18th?

There are seven between March 30th and April 3rd in major Japanese cities (the Jump promotion), plus separate individual previews in Kyoto, Tokyo and Nagoya between April 3rd and 7th. Kei got into the Tokyo one (through Entermix magazine) on the 4th in Tokyo.

[Sandubadear]

This fan-art is amazing:

https://twitter.com/dragongarowLEE/stat ... 6793302016

Who's supposed to be the person to Cooler's left (not Kuriza, the other left)?

[Herms]

Who's supposed to be the person to the Cooler's left (not Kuriza, the other left)?

Presumably some ordinary theater-goer. The idea is that the Freeza clan are sitting down to watch the movie in an ordinary movie theater.

Though we can all pretend that it's Julian.

[Andimoo Studios]

Hi guys! Super excited for this movie! Frieza has always been my favourite DBZ villain.

Here is something I did and how I imagine how Frieza will look like in a live action DBZ movie.


You can find more DBZ concept art here =)
https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=1995673&rf=661739