"Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters" FUNimation English Dub Official Announcement and Discussion Thread

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Post by Scsigs » Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:05 pm

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Scsigs wrote:Super's fine & all, but I feel it's either too rushed for some reason, or the actors aren't in total sync with the characters' voices like they should, which is bullshit considering that these guys have had to dub stuff for Dragon Ball constantly every year since they first started. I feel it'll really come together either by Resurrection F, or after. Seriously, why does that dub feel so rushed while TFC's doesn't? They've been recording Super since July, or something I assume, given the Instagram post Jason Douglas made all the way back then. I get that TFC was recorded over the process of a year or 2, but these actors are usually really good with their voice acting.
Maybe it's because the video moves faster or different than the original.
I don't see that being the issue. If anything, this arc has glacier pacing, especially compared to the movie.

No, what I mean is that for some of the actors, it seems like they didn't give them enough time in the booth to do multiple takes before getting it right for them, or Sabat didn't give them entirely correct voice direction. Kara Edwards as Goten's too inconsistent in the tone she wants to use for some reason (that being the normal Goten tone & a higher-pitched one), as I've mentioned before, & Chi Chi's actress sounds like she's coming off a bad case of strep throat, & is subsequently having to rip her throat apart to even get her Chi Chi voice out. Most everyone else sounds fine, which really concerns me if those 2 are the outliers. The arc, overall, has moments of feeling rushed at times outside of them as well though once the main plot kicked in, so I don't know.
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Post by sintzu » Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:29 pm

Scsigs wrote:The arc, overall, has moments of feeling rushed at times outside of them as well though once the main plot kicked in, so I don't know.
We don't know when they started production on it so maybe it's rushed like you said.

I don't know how long it takes to record voices but if Toei and Toonami said out of nowhere that they had a month to record everything then that might've resulted in some rushed line.
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Post by Nejishiki » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:52 pm

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Dbzfan94 wrote:So the dub is finally using "Dragon Team?" Tbh I always preferred Z Fighters, but I guess that only fit for the Z portion
Yeah, I wasn't sure what they would go with. I was thinking "Z-Fighters Assemble! Goku Returns!" would be an option they would go with to push the Z-Fighter name more similar to an X-Men or Avengers name. Also, Z-Fighters feels more like a dub choice they would make - But since Kai is more faithful anyway, the official title makes sense especially since the entire franchise is titled DRAGON Ball.
This episode is FUNimation's only opportunity to use "Dragon Team" in an episode title anyway. The original broadcast of Dragon Ball Kai uses "Dragon Team" once in their episode titles, too. While FUNimation put "Z Warrior" to frequent use, it was occasionally used in the original Dragon Ball Z adaption, as well (making "Z Warrior" original to... the original version!). The Dragon Ball manga is where "Dragon Team" appears more often.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:45 pm

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Dbzfan94 wrote:So the dub is finally using "Dragon Team?" Tbh I always preferred Z Fighters, but I guess that only fit for the Z portion
Yeah, I wasn't sure what they would go with. I was thinking "Z-Fighters Assemble! Goku Returns!" would be an option they would go with to push the Z-Fighter name more similar to an X-Men or Avengers name. Also, Z-Fighters feels more like a dub choice they would make - But since Kai is more faithful anyway, the official title makes sense especially since the entire franchise is titled DRAGON Ball.
This episode is FUNimation's only opportunity to use "Dragon Team" in an episode title anyway. The original broadcast of Dragon Ball Kai uses "Dragon Team" once in their episode titles, too. While FUNimation put "Z Warrior" to frequent use, it was occasionally used in the original Dragon Ball Z adaption, as well (making "Z Warrior" original to... the original version!). The Dragon Ball manga is where "Dragon Team" appears more often.
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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:51 pm

"Dragon Team" is such a Xiaolin Showdown term, I like it :mrgreen: :clap:
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Post by superfan2024 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:56 pm

Can this thread be changed to: "Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters" FUNimation English Dub Official Announcement and Discussion Thread? It's not really much of an issue, but I figured it makes more sense, since it already premiered, but that's just my opinion. :)

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superfan2024 wrote:Can this thread be changed to: "Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters" FUNimation English Dub Official Announcement and Discussion Thread? It's not really much of an issue, but I figured it makes more sense, since it already premiered, but that's just my opinion. :)
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Post by superfan2024 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:30 pm

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superfan2024 wrote:Can this thread be changed to: "Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters" FUNimation English Dub Official Announcement and Discussion Thread? It's not really much of an issue, but I figured it makes more sense, since it already premiered, but that's just my opinion. :)
Its already called that. It's been called that since December 2016
My bad, I meant to say "Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters" FUNimation English Dub Official Discussion Thread.

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Post by Footlong Shoe » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:34 pm

Well, Super had a dubbed ending this week! Anyone think Kai might get a dubbed opening or ending anytime soon?
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Post by Scsigs » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:39 pm

Footlong Shoe wrote:Well, Super had a dubbed ending this week! Anyone think Kai might get a dubbed opening or ending anytime soon?
They're already in English, albeit deeply accented Engrish, so...no.
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Post by NintendoBlaze53 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:11 am

I'm starting to realize how much of a screwed up product Buu Kai is. We skipped the Otherworld Tournament, yet now South Kai shows up in a filler they kept in. Apparently all the viewers are assumed to know about the quadrants and all about the different Kai's already.
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Post by mint0h » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:14 am

^To the person above me, South Kai and Papoi (although just mentioned) were in the Manga. Not only that, Kai 99 mentioned that Goku and Kaioh were going to the Otherworld Tournament and had scenes from the filler saga. Inherently, the Tournament is canon to Toriyama as he planned Goku to participate after the Cell Games and it was even mentioned in the Buu Manga.
EDIT: So I might have realized you meant just the Otherworld Tournament being skipped which, yeah pretty much sucks and would have added context.

I'm noticing hints of politeness in Goten's speech this time around, which I heard is prevalent in the Super subs.

I'll be honest, I'm feeling Z's delivery of "Does this mean Videl gets to be my new sister?" is slightly better to me.

South Kai might have lost his Southern Accent, I'm not hearing it this time around. I never knew Papoi was supposed to enter the Tenkaichi Budokai, a neat what-if.

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Post by Scsigs » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:16 am

NintendoBlaze53 wrote:I'm starting to realize how much of a screwed up product Buu Kai is. We skipped the Otherworld Tournament, yet now South Kai shows up in a filler they kept in. Apparently all the viewers are assumed to know about the quadrants and all about the different Kai's already.
King Kai/Kaio-sama's always been referred to as North Kai(o) though. Beerus calls him that in Super. Plus, where'd you think they got the idea of the different quadrant Kais? I'm sure they asked Toriyama about it & he explained it, then they asked him to design the rest of the current Kais. Besides, it's never explicitly said that King Kai overlooks all of the universe anyways.
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Post by Scsigs » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:21 am

Jesus, did the composer take a page from Falconer's book? Some of the musical cues either aren't needed, or don't fit, particularly during the part where Goten flew & then crashed, causing Gohan to go check on him.

Also, I don't see anything wrong with the filler content they left in. It's an episode all about training, so it's not like it's particularly bad filler. It's paced decently, not too long, not too short, & adds rather than detracts. It's the kind of slight filler I actually like. Not like all the worthless power up scenes & staring contests in the original version of Z. I say, as long as it's not egregiously long, & fun, let it have a pass. I say this as a Kai supporter & a filler hater. Damn shame they didn't include the Otherworld Tournament in full, as that was actually enjoyable, but if it wasn't in the manga, I guess I understand.

Also, Videl totally wants the D, just Saiyan.
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Post by mint0h » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:26 am

The music playing when Goten flies for the first time is completely out of place, not one of Sumitomo's best.
On the other hand, Videl learning to fly has been one of the best scenes so far. I forgot her rivalry with Goten existed, too bad it might have been cut short due to the major conflict later on.

For some reason, I was to believe Trunks went SSJ before Goten did. Maybe he did do it first, offscreen before Chi Chi vs. Goten. I remember the Manga having Kid Trunks say "Goten can't go SSJ, and he can't even fly yet!" before leading to the Gohan training scene. But it seems here, Trunks is already aware of Goten going SSJ.

The "I'll take you to the stupid park" scene from Super originates here, as expected.

Seeing a grown Dende bothers me, given Super can't tell how tall/what age he is.
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Post by NintendoBlaze53 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:38 am

Well I checked my manga and that scene with South Kai IS there. Which is the Manga's debut of another Kai besides North Kai. Now I must really compliment Z's original anime here for introducing the Kai's so well with the Otherworld Tournament Arc. It's super confusing just to have South Kai show up here, especially with King Kai never mentioning in the dub up to this point that he is simply the North Kai, it's always been King Kai. Unless I'm forgetting something here.
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:33 pm

Maybe FUNi already dubbed BoG and RF so recently that they're not putting their best effort in as opposed to Buu, which they havent done since 2002

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Post by Daisetsu » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:09 pm

NintendoBlaze53 wrote:Well I checked my manga and that scene with South Kai IS there. Which is the Manga's debut of another Kai besides North Kai. Now I must really compliment Z's original anime here for introducing the Kai's so well with the Otherworld Tournament Arc. It's super confusing just to have South Kai show up here, especially with King Kai never mentioning in the dub up to this point that he is simply the North Kai, it's always been King Kai. Unless I'm forgetting something here.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:18 am

Whoa Douglas was South Kai? Pretty cool.

There were bad music in parts but the music that played when Gohan was trying to teach Videl about energy was really good. Also that scene out of context looks wrong... :lol:

How the hell did Vegeta not know Trunks was able to go SS? :eh:

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Post by Scsigs » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:05 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Whoa Douglas was South Kai? Pretty cool.

There were bad music in parts but the music that played when Gohan was trying to teach Videl about energy was really good. Also that scene out of context looks wrong... :lol:

How the hell did Vegeta not know Trunks was able to go SS? :eh:
He didn't train with him before? I mean, Gohan didn't know about Goten & he's his brother.
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