Dragon Ball Z Being Re-edited and Re-dubbed for HDTV

Khalid Shahin · Post by **Khalid Shahin** » Sat May 02, 2009 8:45 pm

-They also removed Gohan peeing right after he wakes up and before he transforms. Very similar to what I did in Dragon Small Z, except Gohan's location is different in Kai.

Post by **Herms** » Sat May 02, 2009 8:46 pm

This episode (title: "Wilderness Survival! The Moon Awakens Gohan") covers about 2 2/3 chapters: 207, 208, and most of 209. From 209 they have the scene at Kame House with the converted scouter, Yajirobe, and Chi Chi+Gyuumao, but leave off the final four pages, which show Kuririn and co. beginning their training at Kami's palace, and then flash forwards 6 months to show that Gohan has improved, and Piccolo will begin teaching him how to fight. Presumably those scenes will be in the next episode. The order of events in these chapters has been shifted around a bit: the scene at Kame House from 209 has been placed between the events of 207 and 208, and a filler scene showing Gohan waking up in the morning has been left in, meaning Gohan spent a whole other day on top of that rock, and transformed into an Oozaru the following night. In the manga, 207 ends with Piccolo giving Gohan apples the night after he gets stuck on that rock, and 208 begins later that same night, showing Gohan become an Oozaru at that time. Presumably this re-ordering was done because if they followed the exact order of events in the manga, then the episode would end with Chi Chi fainting after hearing the news about Goku and Gohan, which wouldn't make as good an ending as the scenes with Piccolo and Oozaru Gohan, and Piccolo's words that he'll make Gohan into "a splendid member of the Demon Clan". I didn't notice any missing manga material in any of these chapters, save for the stuff at the end of 209 that will most likely by included in episode 6.

Next episode will have Goku reach Kaio's planet, and is titled "Finally Arriving at the End! Kaio's Playful Test" (something like that anyway). This means it will most likely cover the rest of 209 and all of 210, and I'd predict that it'll go all the way to the end of 211 simply because that seems like a good ending, with scenes of everyone training. Perhaps more importantly, this also means that Kai will be skipping DBZ episode 9-17, which are the various episodes of training filler, including Gohan and the robot, Goku falling into Hell and meeting the Serpent Princess, Gohan and the orphans, Tenshinhan and co. getting killed by the phantom Saiyans, Vegeta and Nappa on Planet Arlia, etc. In DBZ, Goku doesn't reach Kaio's planet until episode 18, while in Kai he'll be reaching it by episode 6. The difference in pacing between the two series is becoming more and more obvious.

KaiserNeko · Post by **KaiserNeko** » Sat May 02, 2009 8:54 pm

Saiyavenger2941 wrote:Again, I fail to see what's so horrible about covering a child's penis.

Excuse me, but I already replied to your last comment on that. If you really want to keep bitching at us for bitching about the censorship, at least come up with a counterargument to that.

Saiyavenger2941 · Post by **Saiyavenger2941** » Sat May 02, 2009 9:00 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:
Saiyavenger2941 wrote:Again, I fail to see what's so horrible about covering a child's penis.
Excuse me, but I already replied to that comment. If you really want to keep bitching at us for bitching about the censorship, at least come up with a counterargument to that.

For one, I never saw that.

Two, it really is quite stupid that everybody is still whining about it, even this far into the series. It's like people actually want to see his kiddiedong.

And for the record, I've toned down my attitude over the last couple days, so, y'know, drop yours.

KaiserNeko · Post by **KaiserNeko** » Sat May 02, 2009 9:05 pm

Saiyavenger2941 wrote:
KaiserNeko wrote:
Saiyavenger2941 wrote:Again, I fail to see what's so horrible about covering a child's penis.
Excuse me, but I already replied to that comment. If you really want to keep bitching at us for bitching about the censorship, at least come up with a counterargument to that.
For one, I never saw that.

Two, it really is quite stupid that everybody is still whining about it, even this far into the series. It's like people actually want to see his kiddiedong.

And for the record, I've toned down my attitude over the last couple days, so, y'know, drop yours.

Sorry, but I hate repeating myself, especially when the response to your original comment was on the -same page-.

And people are going to keep pointing out the ridiculous censorship as long as it occurs, because it's blatant and distracting for long time fans.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Sat May 02, 2009 9:34 pm

I do gotta say, I'm more concerned with the brutal deaths that occur later on that were already lightened up from the manga (such as #16's and the Cell Jr.'s deaths). You gotta wonder if those are going to be dealt with in a similar manner to Goku's death, especially Zarbon and Trunks' deaths since one gets a hole punched through his abdomen and an energy beam firing right out of his back, while Trunks just gets blasted and is given one huge hole in his chest similar to Goku's first death.

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Sat May 02, 2009 9:37 pm

Tsukento wrote:I do gotta say, I'm more concerned with the brutal deaths that occur later on that were already lightened up from the manga (such as #16's and the Cell Jr.'s deaths). You gotta wonder if those are going to be dealt with in a similar manner to Goku's death, especially Zarbon and Trunks' deaths since one gets a hole punched through his abdomen and an energy beam firing right out of his back, while Trunks just gets blasted and is given one huge hole in his chest similar to Goku's first death.

It might not be a problem with #16 death because he's an android, but who knows

Sonikero · Post by **Sonikero** » Sat May 09, 2009 9:22 am

Hi.

I have a questions about how to see db kai whit a program. I was use Tvants
but this program not found yet. Could someone tell me a program to watch Kai?

Thanks you

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Sat May 09, 2009 11:24 am

Sonikero wrote:Hi.

I have a questions about how to see db kai whit a program. I was use Tvants
but this program not found yet. Could someone tell me a program to watch Kai?

Thanks you

Not sure if we're allowed to tell you, but check kanzentai.com, also TVAnts seems to have stopped working for a while now

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Sat May 09, 2009 6:44 pm

So I'm not the only one who noticed TVAnts isn't showing some channels right now?

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Sat May 09, 2009 6:56 pm

Sonikero wrote:I have a questions about how to see db kai whit a program. I was use Tvants
but this program not found yet. Could someone tell me a program to watch Kai?

Yeah, here's Kanzentai's guide to KeyHole TV, which also works well.

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Sat May 09, 2009 10:27 pm

I liked the new episode, although I missed half

For some reason I felt very nostalgic when Goku thought Bubbles was Kaio-sama.

some one help me remember, did they erase Gregory, or was he never in those scenes in the first place? Because he was in the eye catch

ssjcj · Post by **ssjcj** » Sun May 10, 2009 9:30 am

Rod wrote:I liked the new episode, although I missed half
For some reason I felt very nostalgic when Goku thought Bubbles was Kaio-sama.

some one help me remember, did they erase Gregory, or was he never in those scenes in the first place? Because he was in the eye catch

Gregory wasn't in the manga. He was added into the anime.

SaiyamanMS · Post by **SaiyamanMS** » Sun May 10, 2009 9:55 am

Gregory didn't appear until after Goku had caught Bubbles in DBZ.

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Sun May 10, 2009 12:42 pm

ssjcj wrote:
Rod wrote:I liked the new episode, although I missed half
For some reason I felt very nostalgic when Goku thought Bubbles was Kaio-sama.

some one help me remember, did they erase Gregory, or was he never in those scenes in the first place? Because he was in the eye catch
Gregory wasn't in the manga. He was added into the anime.

Yeah I know, but I wanted to know if they erased him from Kai (finally) or if he never was in those scenes to begin with

Post by **Herms** » Sun May 10, 2009 12:49 pm

He was never in those scenes to begin with. He doesn't show up on Kaio's planet until the episode where Goku hits him with the hammer.

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Sun May 10, 2009 12:52 pm

Herms wrote:He was never in those scenes to begin with. He doesn't show up on Kaio's planet until the episode where Goku hits him with the hammer.

oh man, I was hoping he wouldn't show up on Kai, then again the eye catch from the previous episode kinda ruined that for me

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sun May 10, 2009 2:06 pm

So, what's episode 7's title, anyhow? I'm surprised there hasn't been much discussion on episode 6. O.o Sure, the ofifical talkback's not up, but still...

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Sun May 10, 2009 9:12 pm

JulieYBM wrote:So, what's episode 7's title, anyhow? I'm surprised there hasn't been much discussion on episode 6. O.o Sure, the ofifical talkback's not up, but still...

There probably wasn't any censorship in that ep, so there isn't anything for the Haters to talk about

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Sun May 10, 2009 9:19 pm

DemonRin wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:So, what's episode 7's title, anyhow? I'm surprised there hasn't been much discussion on episode 6. O.o Sure, the ofifical talkback's not up, but still...
There probably wasn't any censorship in that ep, so there isn't anything for the Haters to talk about

I think there wasn't because there are no fight scenes or anything, just everyone training