The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by pacz360 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:31 pm

Shisami runs the gauntlet!
1.android 17
2.android 18
3.android 16
4.semi perfect cell
5.ascended super ssj vegeta
6.ascended super ssj trunks
7.cell jr
8.fpssj goku 50%
9.suppressed perfect cell

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:34 pm

Shisami doesn't beat anyone.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:00 am

SSJ God Gogeta wrote:Shisami doesn't beat anyone.
He's got super uber duper talent apparently. When Freeza launches Tagoma into space, Freeza is not at all moved by the gravitational force dragging the mooks out of the ships hole. Shisami like the other mooks was not able to resist the force and is seen tumbling down once the shields are up. So I definitely don't buy he's already stronger than Freeza somehow.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:14 am

I put him a little above Ginyu.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:54 am

pacz360 wrote:Shisami runs the gauntlet!
1.android 17
2.android 18
3.android 16
4.semi perfect cell
5.ascended super ssj vegeta
6.ascended super ssj trunks
7.cell jr
8.fpssj goku 50%
9.suppressed perfect cell
Shisami one-shots fighters 1-4, but the subsequent duo of SSJs should require some amount of effort. The fight with Cell Jr. could go either way in my opinion. The bull looking fighter would either crush Cell's beloved spawn, or be overwhelmed by the genetically established battle prowess of the miniature creation.

Piccolo was strongly implied to have more or less reached the same realm of power as a Cell Jr. Although he wasn't quite there during the events of the Cell arc, it's very plausible that consistent training over the years has yielded a decent amount of improvement for the Namekian. Even if we assume the training he subjected himself to lacked intensity in comparison to his former training regimen, factoring in the number of years that have elapsed since the defeat of Cell gives his endeavors some amount of credibility.

Furthermore, why would Gohan turn SSJ against some Zarbon tiered weakling garbage? Until it becomes explicit that Piccolo and Gohan have declined in strength, I'm going to have an extremely difficult time believing that Shisami = Zarbon, or that Piccolo actually took some damage from some weakling who has a power level comparable to fodders like Dodoria.

New Battle:
Super Buu vs Second Form Frieza (after training)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:10 am

pacz360 wrote:Shisami runs the gauntlet!
1.android 17
2.android 18
3.android 16
4.semi perfect cell
5.ascended super ssj vegeta
6.ascended super ssj trunks
7.cell jr
8.fpssj goku 50%
9.suppressed perfect cell
I'm assuming this is after the 4 months of training. He one shots everyone from 1-6, 8 and 9. He beats the Cell Junior after a hard fight.
supercat wrote: New Battle:
Super Buu vs Second Form Freeza (after training)
A repeat of SSJ3 Gotenks vs Super Buu. I still give it to Super Buu though thanks to his regeneration and absorption technique.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:28 am

Third Form Frieza (after training) vs Super Buu (no absorption)
Third Form Frieza (after training) vs Buutenks (no absorption)
Third Form Frieza (after training) vs SSJ3 Gotenks (no time limit on fusion, and serious about battle)
Third Form Frieza (after training) vs Ultimate Gohan

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:30 am

supercat wrote:Third Form Freeza (after training) vs Super Buu (no absorption)
Third Form Freeza (after training) vs Buutenks (no absorption)
Third Form Freeza (after training) vs SSJ3 Gotenks (no time limit on fusion, and serious about battle)
Third Form Freeza (after training) vs Ultimate Gohan
Freeza beats everyone except Buutenks.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:26 am

Second Form Frieza (after training) vs Final Form Janemba
Third Form Frieza (after training) vs SSJ Vegetto (Buu arc)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:38 am

supercat wrote:Second Form Freeza (after training) vs Final Form Janemba
Third Form Freeza (after training) vs SSJ Vegetto (Buu arc)
Loses both of them.

weighted Goku (BoZ) vs. Piccolo Junior (23rd)

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Post by supercat » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:05 am

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
supercat wrote:Second Form Freeza (after training) vs Final Form Janemba
Third Form Freeza (after training) vs SSJ Vegetto (Buu arc)
Loses both of them.

weighted Goku (BoZ) vs. Piccolo Junior (23rd)
How powerful do you have the following forms of Frieza?

First Form (FnF)
Final Form (FnF)
Golden (FnF)

-I have Frieza's first form at around Kid Buu / SSJ3 Goku (against Kid Buu) tier.

-I could see his Final Form being a decent amount above SSJ Vegetto. I'm not quite sure if Vegetto would qualify as one-shot material here, but I'm pretty confident that the tyrant would put Vegetto through the same misery that the Saiyan had once forced Buuhan to endure. Of course, this little reenactment would also entail a far greater extent of sadistic torment. Poor Vegetto..

-Golden Frieza probably has the luxury of wielding a battle power comparable to 85% of Beerus' power.

All speculation at this point.

Your battle:

Could still be somewhat close, but I'm strongly leaning towards Goku being able to take this with a small amount of difficulty.
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Post by ZombieVito » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:19 am

supercat wrote:Second Form Freeza (after training) vs Final Form Janemba
Third Form Freeza (after training) vs SSJ Vegetto (Buu arc)
Freeza wins with moderate difficulty.
Vegetto points and Freeza disintegrates.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:26 am

pacz360 wrote:Shisami runs the gauntlet!
1.android 17
2.android 18
3.android 16
4.semi perfect cell
5.ascended super ssj vegeta
6.ascended super ssj trunks
7.cell jr
8.fpssj goku 50%
9.suppressed perfect cell
Shisami clears the list

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:47 am

supercat wrote:How powerful do you have the following forms of Freeza?

First Form (FnF)
Final Form (FnF)
Golden (FnF)
The 3 first forms of Freeza are all stronger than Cell and weaker than Majin Boo. His 4th form is stronger than all forms of Majin Boo, but weaker than Vegetto. His golden form is stronger than Goku and weaker than Beerus.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:32 pm

Who wins the following battles?

Bulchi (Bulma + Chi-Chi; fusion dance) vs. Videl (25th Budokai)

Chiaocha (Yamcha + Chiaotzu; potara fusion) vs. Krillin (Android Saga)

Base Goku (Android Saga) + Tien (Boo Saga) Potara Fusion vs. Base Gohan (Boo Saga)

Idasa + Ikosa Potara Fusion vs. Majin Spopovich

Chi-Chi vs. Videl (25th Budokai) + Blonde Lunch Potara Fusion

Ultimate Gohan +Tien (Boo Saga) Potara Fusion vs. Bootenks

Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai) vs. Majin Spopovich + Yamu Potara Fusion
; Kamehameha is optional for her
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by fadeddreams5 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:48 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Who wins the following battles?

Bulchi (Bulma + Chi-Chi; fusion dance) vs. Videl (25th Budokai)

Chiaocha (Yamcha + Chiaotzu; potara fusion) vs. Krillin (Android Saga)

Base Goku (Android Saga) + Tenshinhan (Boo Saga) Potara Fusion vs. Base Gohan (Boo Saga)

Idasa + Ikosa Potara Fusion vs. Majin Spopovich

Chi-Chi vs. Videl (25th Budokai) + Blonde Lunch Potara Fusion

Ultimate Gohan +Tenshinhan (Boo Saga) Potara Fusion vs. Bootenks

Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai) vs. Majin Spopovich + Yamu Potara Fusion
; Kamehameha is optional for her
Videl alone wouldn't be able to beat Chi Chi, let alone a fusion of her and Bulma.

I think Chiaocha wins. Yamcha isn't THAT far off from Krillin. Combined with Chiaotzu's psychic powers, he'd be quite the force among Earthlings.

I assume you mean Ultimate Gohan. Ummm... I don't know if in base they'd be stronger than Gohan, honestly. I say Gohan takes it.

Majin Spopovich destroys them. They're just normal kids, fused or not. lol.

I still say Chi Chi wins. Both of those other girls are just regular humans. I can see Chi Chi blocking or catching bullets.

I say Buutenks still has the advantage. He was able to one-shot Tien with a kick, so I imagine a fusion with him wouldn't really close the gap between Buu and Gohan.

The fused Majins take it against Chi Chi.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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DBZAOTA482 wrote:Who wins the following battles?

Bulchi (Bulma + Chi-Chi; fusion dance) vs. Videl (25th Budokai)

Chiaocha (Yamcha + Chiaotzu; potara fusion) vs. Krillin (Android Saga)

Base Goku (Android Saga) + Tenshinhan (Boo Saga) Potara Fusion vs. Base Gohan (Boo Saga)

Idasa + Ikosa Potara Fusion vs. Majin Spopovich

Chi-Chi vs. Videl (25th Budokai) + Blonde Lunch Potara Fusion

Ultimate Gohan +Tenshinhan (Boo Saga) Potara Fusion vs. Bootenks

Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai) vs. Majin Spopovich + Yamu Potara Fusion
; Kamehameha is optional for her

-Bulchi crushes Videl. Chi Chi alone is enough to one-shot Videl.

-Chiaocha wins. While Yamcha and his long list of failures could never amount to Krillin, the boost obtained through Potara may actually give the desert bandit just what he needs to finally one up his old friend.

-If this is Ultimate Gohan, he would crush the Goku / Tien fusion with the utmost ease. The defeat would be so humiliating that Goku who likely would have the dominant personality, would start questioning why he even fused with Tien. Regular Base Gohan, however, may not be privileged with the same kind of opportunity. Even though Base Goku (Android arc) was a decent amount below regular Base Gohan (Buu arc), the boost given from the Potara alone should be sufficient to close the gap.

-Two scenarios: Majin Spopovich would either teach these kids to stop trying to bully other kids around, or the kids get an ego boost after kicking the living crap out of some grumpy old adult.

-Chi Chi one-shots.

-Tien's trivial power won't even make a dent, but considering how the Potara boost could work wonders, you never know. Although the exact science behind the fusion is still a mystery, I wouldn't be surprised if it gave Gohan enough of a boost to at least last a little longer against Buutenks. Will it give him the victory? Probably not, as Tien is a complete fodder who likely won't even contribute towards to 1-2% of their increase.

-I'd say the fused lackeys have a pretty good chance of putting Chi Chi in her place. However, I'm not sure how the Potara would affect two beings who are rocking the Majin symbol. Regardless, this would be the last straw for Gohan.

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Goku's Dragon Fist (Movie 13) vs Buuhan
Goku's Dragon Fist (Movie 13) vs Second Form Frieza (after training)

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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:11 pm

supercat wrote:Goku's Dragon Fist (Movie 13) vs Buuhan
Goku's Dragon Fist (Movie 13) vs Second Form Freeza (after training)
Goku's Dragon Fist annihilates both Buuhan and Freeza.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:15 pm

Goku's Dragon Fist (Movie 13) - Gauntlet

-Goku's Spirit Bomb (against Kid Buu) - can the force of the Dragon Fist provide enough power for Goku to push through his own Spirit Bomb or successfully cancel it out?
-Third Form Frieza (after training)
-Final Form Rild
-SSJ Vegetto
-Final Form Frieza (FnF)
-SSJ3 Vegetto

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:30 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Who wins the following battles?

Bulchi (Bulma + Chi-Chi; fusion dance) vs. Videl (25th Budokai)

Chiaocha (Yamcha + Chiaotzu; potara fusion) vs. Krillin (Android Saga)

Base Goku (Android Saga) + Tenshinhan (Boo Saga) Potara Fusion vs. Base Gohan (Boo Saga)

Idasa + Ikosa Potara Fusion vs. Majin Spopovich

Chi-Chi vs. Videl (25th Budokai) + Blonde Lunch Potara Fusion

Ultimate Gohan +Tenshinhan (Boo Saga) Potara Fusion vs. Bootenks

Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai) vs. Majin Spopovich + Yamu Potara Fusion
; Kamehameha is optional for her
Bulchi destroys Videl.

I give it to Chiaocha, Krillin ain't that special.

Gohan gets destroyed.

Spopovich kills them.

Chi-Chi takes the win.

Buutenks still wins (IMO).
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