English Dragon Box Release

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:15 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Woah now...the Japanese score was bloody awesome when Gohan killed Cell. If music could spell that piece spelt "the fall of a great evil, a heroic inner conquest!"

But alas...opinions...

I thought the dub fit that scene much better. My top 5 favorite moments in the anime were all helped by the dub score: Gohan owning the Cell Jr.s, Gohan killing Cell (that's my favorite episode), Vegeta's Final Flash, the SSJ3 Goku transformation, and Gohan going SSJ2 (the episode 185 version).

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:18 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Woah now...the Japanese score was bloody awesome when Gohan killed Cell. If music could spell that piece spelt "the fall of a great evil, a heroic inner conquest!"

But alas...opinions...

I like the Original music but I've always said that sometimes they'll have a scene and pick the oddest song to go along with it. So I'll be watching it and sometimes think "Really? Out of all the tracks they could have used they went with THAT one?" I can understand why you personally feel that music went well with that scene but it just felt "tame" to me. Not epic enough for me.

jjpg1112 wrote:I thought the dub fit that scene much better. My top 5 favorite moments in the anime were all helped by the dub score: Gohan owning the Cell Jr.s, Gohan killing Cell (that's my favorite episode), Vegeta's Final Flash, the SSJ3 Goku transformation, and Gohan going SSJ2 (the episode 185 version).

Pretty much agree with this.

Saiyavenger2941 · Post by **Saiyavenger2941** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:19 pm

Goddamn, you people. This kind of shit is why I'm ashamed to call myself a Dragonball fan sometimes.

Subbies. Dubbies. It doesn't matter. You're mostly all the same intolerant assholes I was hoping to avoid here.

Should it really fucking matter which audio track some people like? Hell, some people, such as myself, happen to enjoy both just fine!

But no. It has to become a petty little argument every goddamn time. "Nozawa makes Goku sound like a faggoty little bitch!" "Chris Sabat should burn in hell for ruining the entire legacy of Dragonball!"

I am fucking BEGGING you people to just get along and accept other peoples' likes and dislikes.

Budogenkai · Post by **Budogenkai** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:19 pm

Ah, so there will be no Falconer music score..

This kind of tempts me not too sell of my orange bricks just for memories sake, but I'm sure money will make me forget all about that.

I'm kind of happy about this, just because this provides a little more feedback that the quality of the DVDs will be the best they possibly can be.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:20 pm

Chrono Trigger wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Woah now...the Japanese score was bloody awesome when Gohan killed Cell. If music could spell that piece spelt "the fall of a great evil, a heroic inner conquest!"

But alas...opinions...
I like the Original music but I've always said that sometimes they'll have a scene and pick the oddest song to go along with it. So I'll be watching it and sometimes think "Really? Out of all the tracks they could have used they went with THAT one?"

Cell powering up to his full power is the best example of this. Really?! The fucking Spirit Bomb theme from Movie 7?! One of the most peaceful themes in the series?! The dub music they used fit much better and set the tone for the scene.

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:20 pm

Saiyavenger2941 wrote:Goddamn, you people. This kind of shit is why I'm ashamed to call myself a Dragonball fan sometimes...

You're overreacting, there's no sub vs. dub argument going on.

SuperSaiyan3Goku · Post by **SuperSaiyan3Goku** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:24 pm

Jesus, this topic better not be closed, too...

As for me, I don't care what music is in the set. All I want is the English voices, with an option for the Japanese voices, episode previews, and for it to be in 4:3. If all that is in this set, I'll be happy. (As for Bruce Faulconer's music, I can just turn to the Funimation single releases of DBZ)

Big Boss · Post by **Big Boss** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:24 pm

I don't see a problem with this. I love the Japanese score anyway, but there are a few scenes in Faulconer's score that really destroy the Japanese music...so what I'll do is, mux the audio from my orange bricks to the Dragon Box footage, create a loss-less encode and voila!

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:25 pm

Saiyavenger2941 wrote:Goddamn, you people. This kind of shit is why I'm ashamed to call myself a Dragonball fan sometimes.

Subbies. Dubbies. It doesn't matter. You're mostly all the same intolerant assholes I was hoping to avoid here.

Should it really fucking matter which audio track some people like? Hell, some people, such as myself, happen to enjoy both just fine!

But no. It has to become a petty little argument every goddamn time. "Nozawa makes Goku sound like a faggoty little bitch!" "Chris Sabat should burn in hell for ruining the entire legacy of Dragonball!"

I am fucking BEGGING you people to just get along and accept other peoples' likes and dislikes.

Y'know, just about every active thread besides this one isn't having this argument. Don't base your entire outlook of this forum on the few members who are carrying the argument through this thread.

kei17 · Post by **kei17** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:25 pm

Anyway, this is getting HOT. FUNi wins.

Li'l Lemmy · Post by **Li'l Lemmy** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:25 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Best to ignore him, friend. Some are just the overreacting type.

To be fair, I've seen overreactions on both sides. jjgp1112 is certainly overreacting, but it's no help when other people antagonize him and other dub fans by belittling their opinions on the matter with remarks like "don't be such a baby" and "this release keeps getting better and better". Celebrating about what we're getting is one thing, but doing it in way that makes other people feel worse about what they aren't getting is pushing it.

It's fucking basic as hell.

~Da Lemmy

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:25 pm

SuperSaiyan3Goku wrote:All I want is the English voices, with an option for the Japanese voices

Other way around, the set starts up in Japanese with Subtitles.

Hao_Kaiser · Post by **Hao_Kaiser** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:25 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
kei17 wrote:
obiwan23s wrote:F that. Goku sounds like a girl and they all talk too fast.
Do you really think so?? To us, Japanese, all characters talk faster in English dubs because of the stupid additional lines.
Best to ignore him, friend. Some are just the overreacting type.

Err... I think he (obiwan23s) was being sarcastic... I mean, read the rest of his post:

I'd prefer the worse-than-1991 Sega midi Falconer track and great voiceover work like Android "My balls are in a vicegrip" #19.

Eh... Yeah.

And, as far as this apparent loss of the old dub track... Those orange bricks aren't going anywhere, guys. Just because a new release excludes it doesn't mean that it ceases to exist. I understand that it's inconvenient to pop in those old DVDs, and a little disheartening that you have to deal with the cropping and such, but... It's still widely available.

And, like you said, jjgp112, the later season sets have pretty good video quality. It isn't like the last remnants of Faulkner's score are on Freeza saga VHS tapes.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:27 pm

Really, my reaction would have stayed as my comment about the Buu saga being boring and my top 5 scenes, but then the stuff that Li'l Lemmy was mentioning in his post is what made me say the other stuff.

I mean, Rory pretty much fucking provoked me to post my response to the news.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:32 pm

So the guy trying to calm down this mess made you wanna get the last word?

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:33 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Cell powering up to his full power is the best example of this. Really?! The fucking Spirit Bomb theme from Movie 7?! One of the most peaceful themes in the series?! The dub music they used fit much better and set the tone for the scene.

That's one and another one that always got me was the Super Saiyan transformation scene. This was a huge moment and all they used for it was some recycled stuff from Dead Zone! You would think they would have made a insert song for it or something...

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:33 pm

Kendamu wrote:So the guy trying to calm down this mess made you wanna get the last word?

The stuff that he said other people were doing. Don't twist my words around.

Krakabeast · Post by **Krakabeast** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:36 pm

I'm just pissed because I won't have amazing DBox footage with Faulkner's score during the Boo arc.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:38 pm

Krakabeast wrote:I'm just pissed because I won't have amazing DBox footage with Faulkner's score during the Boo arc.

Exactly. That's why I'm not relieved that I still have the Season sets.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:39 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Kendamu wrote:So the guy trying to calm down this mess made you wanna get the last word?
The stuff that he said other people were doing. Don't twist my words around.

Stop being so damn defensive. I didn't understand what you meant so I said something in order to get some clarification. Despite my having the exact opposite opinion as you, I generally never have a problem with you I've been pretty nice to you throughout this disagreement. So, don't turn around and start jabbing at me just because some other prick keeps kicking sand in your face.