The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

DBZAOTA482 · Post by **DBZAOTA482** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:50 am

Snake with eyebrows vs. #16

Captain Space · Post by **Captain Space** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:03 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Snake with eyebrows vs. #16

#16. The only reason the snake didn't go down instantly was because the kids were seriously pulling their punches in order to not just turn it into a red stain.

Blocky · Post by **Blocky** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:39 am

Vegito (Saiyan Sega) vs Second form Freeza
The fusion potara of Uub, Gohan, Goten, Trunks combine (GT) vs Omega Shenron
10 Billion Hypothetical Fifth Form Meta-Coolers vs 17 and 18
Hirudegarn and Janemba vs SSJ3 Vegeta (EoZ)
Mastered Golden Freeza (After one year training in RoSat w/ no stamina loss) vs SSGSS Goku and SSGSS Vegeta
Kid Buu VS Everyone in Otherworld
Tien (Movie 9) vs 50% Final form Freeza
Dragonball Multiverse Vegito vs SSJG Goku
Krillin (During training with Roshi) vs Alien and Predator
Dio Brando vs Tambourine
SSJ4 Raditz vs First form Freeza
Filler Yamcha vs SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Sega)

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:10 am

Blocky wrote:Vegito (Saiyan Sega) vs Second form Freeza
The fusion potara of Uub, Gohan, Goten, Trunks combine (GT) vs Omega Shenron
10 Billion Hypothetical Fifth Form Meta-Coolers vs 17 and 18
Hirudegarn and Janemba vs SSJ3 Vegeta (EoZ)
Mastered Golden Freeza (After one year training in RoSat w/ no stamina loss) vs SSGSS Goku and SSGSS Vegeta
Kid Buu VS Everyone in Otherworld
Tenshinhan (Movie 9) vs 50% Final form Freeza
Dragonball Multiverse Vegito vs SSJG Goku
Krillin (During training with Roshi) vs Alien and Predator
Dio Brando vs Tambourine
SSJ4 Raditz vs First form Freeza
Filler Yamcha vs SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Sega)

- Freeza gets wrecked.
- Omega Shenron still stomps hard. Uub, Gohan, Goten and Trunks are like saibamen compared to Omega Shenron.
- The Metal Coolers overwhelm #17 and #18
- Hirudegarn and Janemba are too much for Vegeta to handle
- SSGSS Goku and SSGSS Vegeta win, if they work together properly
- Kid Boo blows up Otherworld like he was going do in the anime
- Freeza one shots
- I'm siding with SSJG Goku on this one
- Krillin uses his Kienzan to turn Alien and Predator into chopped liver
- Dio stops time and punches a hole through Tambourine, killing him.
- SSJ4 Raditz wins with effort
- Not even filler can save Yamcha, he gets his ass handed to him on a silver platter.

Captain Space · Post by **Captain Space** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:18 am

Vegito (Saiyan Sega) vs Second form Freeza: Freeza. That's a huge gap even by fusion standards.

The fusion potara of Uub, Gohan, Goten, Trunks combine (GT) vs Omega Shenron: Potara fusion seems somewhat exponential, so probably the fusion.

10 Billion Hypothetical Fifth Form Meta-Coolers vs 17 and 18: The Meta-Coolers. This is almost unfair XD 17 and 18 aren't that far above Cooler.

Hirudegarn and Janemba vs SSJ3 Vegeta (EoZ): Hirudegarn and Janemba. Especially given EoZ, Vegeta could probably take one of those, but I sincerely doubt both.

Mastered Golden Freeza (After one year training in RoSat w/ no stamina loss) vs SSGSS Goku and SSGSS Vegeta: If the training powers him up, then Freeza for sure, given how far he came in four months. If all that training does is remove the stamina problems, then the saiyans can take him. But I reckon it's more likely to be the former, hence Freeza.

Kid Buu VS Everyone in Otherworld: Kid Buu, unless "everyone" includes Goku.

Tenshinhan (Movie 9) vs 50% Final form Freeza: Probably Tenshinhan, depending on how far Trunks was holding back to make a show for the crowd.

Dragonball Multiverse Vegito vs SSJG Goku: Vegetto; SSJG Goku was above Buu Saga Vegetto but not that ridiculously much. In DBM, Vegetto's advanced to a crazy extent.

Krillin (During training with Roshi) vs Alien and Predator: Pretty sure, Alien and Predator. Did Krillin even really have any feats before he got through most or all of his training?

Dio Brando vs Tambourine: Only three episodes into JJBA, can't say yet XD

SSJ4 Raditz vs First form Freeza: Raditz, no doubt whatsoever.

Filler Yamcha vs SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Sega): Gohan. Filler Yamcha was below Pikkon's level, pretty sure.

EDIT:

Lord Beerus wrote: - Krillin uses his Kienzan to turn Alien and Predator into chopped liver

The Kienzan he didn't know yet, you mean.

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:37 am

Captain Space wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: - Krillin uses his Kienzan to turn Alien and Predator into chopped liver
The Kienzan he didn't know yet, you mean.

Aw, crap. You're right. I didn't read the special circumstance of what kind of version Krillin would be taking on Alien and Predator. In that case, he loses.

Pantalones · Post by **Pantalones** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:46 am

Ben 10 takes Dragonball gauntlet. How far
He turns into alien x and slaughters everyone

Reading over the wiki page for Alien X... it seems that form is vulnerable to life/power-draining abilities, to the extent that they can actually kill him when destroying a universe around him apparently can't (though I'd suspect that's just because of the "is a living pocket-universe in itself" feature of the alien rather than a "feat," to use the obnoxious internet power-comparison people term.) And it sounds like when somebody drains his power, they get all of his abilities along with it. Which means one moment of hesitation against #19 or #20 and he (and everyone else!) is in biiiiig trouble. And unfortunately for Ben that's a form that is defined by moments of hesitation, thanks to the need to argue with the other personalities inside it in order to do literally anything... Dr. Gero with the ability to reshape the universe at will, anyone?

Also, Alien X's ability to reverse time and the mention that others of the same species (who all have that power) can harm him makes me think Whis could also do some damage.

Realistically, though, I don't think Ben would get a chance to use that form in the first place -- he doesn't do it often (very much a "last resort" sort of thing) so it seems more likely that he'd get killed while fighting one of the villains in a different form before it came up as a possibility.

supercat · Post by **supercat** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:20 pm

Blocky wrote:Vegito (Saiyan Sega) vs Second form Freeza
The fusion potara of Uub, Gohan, Goten, Trunks combine (GT) vs Omega Shenron
10 Billion Hypothetical Fifth Form Meta-Coolers vs 17 and 18
Hirudegarn and Janemba vs SSJ3 Vegeta (EoZ)
Mastered Golden Freeza (After one year training in RoSat w/ no stamina loss) vs SSGSS Goku and SSGSS Vegeta
Kid Buu VS Everyone in Otherworld
Tenshinhan (Movie 9) vs 50% Final form Freeza
Dragonball Multiverse Vegito vs SSJG Goku
Krillin (During training with Roshi) vs Alien and Predator
Dio Brando vs Tambourine
SSJ4 Raditz vs First form Freeza
Filler Yamcha vs SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Sega)

-Well assuming the added power levels of Goku and Vegeta come out to roughly around 30,000, they would need around a ~33-34x boost to catch up to the mighty tyrant. With the mysterious algorithm behind the Potara earrings, I wouldn't be surprised if the Saiyan duo takes this. In any case, even if their base form doesn't quite cut it, they could turn SSJ and get another whopping 50x boost to seal the deal.

-Without the events of BoG and FnF taking place before EoZ, Vegeta could expect to have the pleasure of doing a reenactment of his fight with Kid Buu.

-With a power advantage of around ~3x coupled with unlimited stamina, the androids would get pretty darn far if they take things seriously and proceed to one-shot as many as possible. If Cooler is actually capable of inflicting real damage, I'd say the duo is legitimately screwed. On the contrary, if the tyrant's attacks merely bounce off as annoying flea bites, the duo's unlimited stamina should help them push through victory.

-The golden tyrant already had the power necessitated to crush the Saiyan duo individually. One year of RoSaT, would be absolute overkill.

-With the exclusion of Paikuhan and Olibu, the outcome would be very akin to Frieza vs Planet Vegeta. That is.. until filler Yamcha jumps in and buys them all some time with his "stronger than Olibu" power.

Even though, he didn't quite leave the imprint of valor during their last encounter with the vile menace, he may be up for the task this time around. Let's hope he doesn't try to feign courage by offering a gesture of aid to someone, and then immediately running off when he sees a blast heading their way.

-SSG Goku still wins. While Multiverse Vegetto was impressive, I don't think he's worlds above his canon counterpart, which SSG Goku likely is.

-Tien gets one-shotted.

-Krillin makes quick work of the aliens.

-Raditz utterly humiliates Freeza, and frees his people of the tyrant's domineering rule.

-Filler Yamcha gets one-shotted.

Captain Space · Post by **Captain Space** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:00 pm

supercat wrote: -Well assuming the added power levels of Goku and Vegeta come out to roughly around 30,000, they would need around a ~33-34x boost to catch up to the mighty tyrant. With the mysterious algorithm behind the Potara earrings, I wouldn't be surprised if the Saiyan duo takes this. In any case, even if their base form doesn't quite cut it, they could turn SSJ and get another whopping 50x boost to seal the deal.

If they're even capable of going SSJ at that point, anyway.

supercat · Post by **supercat** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:10 pm

Captain Space wrote:
supercat wrote: -Well assuming the added power levels of Goku and Vegeta come out to roughly around 30,000, they would need around a ~33-34x boost to catch up to the mighty tyrant. With the mysterious algorithm behind the Potara earrings, I wouldn't be surprised if the Saiyan duo takes this. In any case, even if their base form doesn't quite cut it, they could turn SSJ and get another whopping 50x boost to seal the deal.
If they're even capable of going SSJ at that point, anyway.

I wouldn't be surprised if the fusion itself drew out their dormant potential and granted them that privilege.

Dbzk1999 · Post by **Dbzk1999** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:43 pm

Pantalones wrote:
Ben 10 takes Dragonball gauntlet. How far
He turns into alien x and slaughters everyone
Reading over the wiki page for Alien X... it seems that form is vulnerable to life/power-draining abilities, to the extent that they can actually kill him when destroying a universe around him apparently can't (though I'd suspect that's just because of the "is a living pocket-universe in itself" feature of the alien rather than a "feat," to use the obnoxious internet power-comparison people term.) And it sounds like when somebody drains his power, they get all of his abilities along with it. Which means one moment of hesitation against #19 or #20 and he (and everyone else!) is in biiiiig trouble. And unfortunately for Ben that's a form that is defined by moments of hesitation, thanks to the need to argue with the other personalities inside it in order to do literally anything... Dr. Gero with the ability to reshape the universe at will, anyone?

Also, Alien X's ability to reverse time and the mention that others of the same species (who all have that power) can harm him makes me think Whis could also do some damage.

Realistically, though, I don't think Ben would get a chance to use that form in the first place -- he doesn't do it often (very much a "last resort" sort of thing) so it seems more likely that he'd get killed while fighting one of the villains in a different form before it came up as a possibility.

First, the Omnitrix has a fail safe where it keeps Ben from dying. Next, unless whis is packing some universal+ power, he's not harming alien x. I don't think that logic works, the only reason that alien x was "harmed" by galactic gladiator was because they were of the same race (had nothing to do with having the same power) and even then, the battle was a stalemate, Ben won when he was able to get galactic gladiator to stop for a moment and think (that way he'd have to make a decision). Him tanking the destruction of the universe actually is a feat, it shows how durable his body is (even when he's not doing anything). Correction, it WAS defined by moments of hesitation, like I said, as of Omniverse, that's not a weakness to him. The only time the powers of an celestialsapien can be absorbed is when they're a baby (that's why aggregor went to the forge of creation to absorb the infant celestialsapien)

LightBing · Post by **LightBing** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:54 pm

Mr.Satan and Videl vs Giran

Appule vs Kurilin, Tienshinhan, Yamcha and Chaotzu (Saiyan Saga)

Kaio and Enma Daio vs Nappa

Captain Space · Post by **Captain Space** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:07 pm

LightBing wrote:Mr.Satan and Videl vs Giran

Appule vs Kurilin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha and Chaotzu (Saiyan Saga)

Kaio and Enma Daio vs Nappa

-Actually, given Goku's wall-breaking-kick that terrified Giran, Mr. Satan and Videl may be able to take him.

-Soldiers just like Appule were no match for a single 3000 BP, and probably only laughed at 1000's due to a numbers advantage. The team, as they say here on the Internet, stomps.

-Nappa. He was just about matching saiyan-saga Goku when going all-out.

DBZAOTA482 · Post by **DBZAOTA482** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:16 pm

LightBing wrote:Mr.Satan and Videl vs Giran

Appule vs Kurilin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha and Chaotzu (Saiyan Saga)

Kaio and Enma Daio vs Nappa

-Giran crushes them both. He traded blows wit Goku at the 21St Budokai while Mr. Satan and Videl are weaker than BoDB Goku
-Yamcha is that's needed to wipe out Appule
-King Kai and Enma win with effort

SSJ2FutureGohan · Post by **SSJ2FutureGohan** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:20 pm

LightBing wrote:Appule vs Kurilin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha and Chaotzu (Saiyan Saga)

Depends, is Lord Appule able to use his full power (730,000)? Or is he limited to the power he displayed when he was caught off guard and killed by Vegeta? For me that's probably around 2,100, so he'd beat them all.

supercat · Post by **supercat** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:33 pm

LightBing wrote:Mr.Satan and Videl vs Giran

Appule vs Kurilin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha and Chaotzu (Saiyan Saga)

Kaio and Enma Daio vs Nappa

-Giran mockingly mentions that he has no tolerance for fakes. With that, he immediately shoulders the champ full force and sends him flying out of the ring.

Wanting to avenge her father and his title, Videl jumps into the ring and angrily kicks the dinosaur looking creature in the face. After brushing her aside like a fly, Giran laughs and asks if both her and her father have learned their place. Needless to say, Videl hangs her head in shame and flies over to aid her father.

-As much as I hate Appule, he would quick work of the humans.

-After Nappa sends the majestic giant crashing face first onto his own check-in desk, he proceeds to kill King Kai with a bone-shattering kick to the chin.

Lunatic Fringe · Post by **Lunatic Fringe** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:38 pm

Thanks for all the replies and welcomes!

-Videl w/ Kaioken vs. Kid Goku(start of the series)
-Kibito Kai vs. Majin Vegeta
-Saiyan Saga Oozaru Vegeta vs. Ginyu Saga Goku w/ Kaioken(1st round - no restrictions; at night w/ the full moon out, 2nd round - tail cutting/tail grabbing not allowed; artificial moon)
-Self Inflicted Captain Ginyu & Guldo vs. Burter, Jeice, & Recoome
-Appule & Cui vs. Post Elder Unlock Gohan & Post Elder Unlock Krillin

SSJ2FutureGohan · Post by **SSJ2FutureGohan** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:45 pm

Lunatic Fringe wrote:Cyborg Tao vs. 23rd WMAT Krillin

Krillin wins easily in my opinion. Yamcha could keep up with Goku and Tenshinhan's movements while Taopaipai couldn't keep track of a slower Tenshinhan.

Lunatic Fringe wrote:Drum vs. 23rd WMAT Yamcha

Drum gets his skull kicked in a second time. He could keep up with Goku/Ten's movements.

Lunatic Fringe wrote:Meta Cooler vs. #16

Metal Cooler stomps in my opinion.

Lunatic Fringe wrote:King Cold & Mecha Freeza vs. #19 & #20

Initial #19 solos this fight.

Lunatic Fringe wrote:3rd Form Freeza vs. Cell Saga Tenshinhan

Tenshinhan stomps. He'd even stomp initial True form Freeza. Not much to back that other than personal opinion/preference.

Lunatic Fringe wrote:Buu Saga SSJ Gohan(pre-Old Kai unlock) vs. Cell Jr.

Gohan still one-shots. He's still stronger than Cell Games Goku in my opinion, based on his fight with Dabra.

Lunatic Fringe · Post by **Lunatic Fringe** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:51 pm

LightBing wrote:Mr.Satan and Videl vs Giran

Appule vs Kurilin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha and Chaotzu (Saiyan Saga)

Kaio and Enma Daio vs Nappa

Wish I would've read the replies on Appule's BP before I made that fight with him involved. Thought he'd be around 15,000.

-Giran stomps them in the blink of an eye.
-Appule wins with a bit of effort. Pretty sure a Kikoho and/or Kienzan can do him in.
-Nappa wins easily.

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:57 pm

Lunatic Fringe wrote:-Videl w/ Kaioken vs. Kid Goku(start of the series)
-Kibito Kai vs. Majin Vegeta
-Saiyan Saga Oozaru Vegeta vs. Ginyu Saga Goku w/ Kaioken(1st round - no restrictions; at night w/ the full moon out, 2nd round - tail cutting/tail grabbing not allowed; artificial moon)
-Self Inflicted Captain Ginyu & Guldo vs. Burter, Jeice, & Recoome
-Appule & Cui vs. Post Elder Unlock Gohan & Post Elder Unlock Krillin

- Videl still gets her ass kicked
- Kibito Kai all the way
- The giant ape literally crushes Ginyu Goku
- Burter, Jeice, & Recoome are too much for Guldo and a practically dying Ginyu to handle
- Appule and Cui get turned into fruit juice by Krillin and Gohan

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