DB.E Worldwide Total

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:06 am

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Kendamu wrote:Pretty much all of Kevin Smith's movies are like that. They barely make back the money used and maybe turns a bit of a profit. Since he's not really costing Miramax any money, they keep letting him make films.
Not to turn this into a Kevin Smith debate, but where did you get that idea?

Clerks
Budget $27,000 (original)
$230,000 (post)
Gross revenue $3.2 million

Mallrats
Budget $6,100,000
Gross revenue $2,122,561

Chasing Amy
Budget $250,000
Gross revenue $12,021,272

Dogma
Budget $10,000,000
Gross revenue $30,652,890

Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
Budget $22 million
Gross revenue $30,085,147

Clerks 2
Budget $5,000,000
Gross revenue $26,983,776

Zack and Miri Make a Porno
Budget $24 million
Gross revenue $31.33 million

Mallrats bombed, but nearly all the other movies made respectable profits given their budgets. And I'm pretty sure these figures don't include the home release market either.

-Corey

From "An Evening With Kevin Smith" and "Kevin Smith 2: Evening Harder." He says that it's actually the DVD sales that make or break a lot of movies in terms of whether or not it was a good investment for the studio. So, while Dragonball Evolution seems to have barely made it's budget back in the theater, the DVD sales will push it far enough into the profit zone that it'll actually not be a failure for FOX.

Post by **Herms** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:13 am

Kendamu wrote:So, while Dragonball Evolution seems to have barely made it's budget back in the theater, the DVD sales will push it far enough into the profit zone that it'll actually not be a failure for FOX.

Assuming the DVD sells.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:17 am

Herms wrote:
Kendamu wrote:So, while Dragonball Evolution seems to have barely made it's budget back in the theater, the DVD sales will push it far enough into the profit zone that it'll actually not be a failure for FOX.
Assuming the DVD sells.

They're about $55,000 from breaking even. Assuming that roughly 3,000 copies are sold, they'll make $45-Million.

Post by **Herms** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:00 am

Kendamu wrote:They're about $55,000 from breaking even. Assuming that roughly 3,000 copies are sold, they'll make $45-Million.

According to Corey, the budget was $50 million, meaning they'll have to make $5 million more to make any profit, so they'll have to sell about 30,000 copies.

And anyway, I can't exactly see them going "well, that barely broke even, let's make another!"

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:15 am

Herms wrote:
Kendamu wrote:They're about $55,000 from breaking even. Assuming that roughly 3,000 copies are sold, they'll make $45-Million.
According to Corey, the budget was $50 million, meaning they'll have to make $5 million more to make any profit, so they'll have to sell about 30,000 copies.

And anyway, I can't exactly see them going "well, that barely broke even, let's make another!"

http://dbthemovie.com/2009/03/30/budget ... quel-talk/

That's where I got $45-Million from.

I get what you're saying about "let's make another" but that's not really what I expected. If this movie breaks even maybe FOX won't be afraid to try and do a revamp in a few years. If they learn from the past, maybe we'll see a more true-to-the-source version of Dragonball in the theaters.

Personally, my hope is that Japan "retaliates" with their own live action Dragonball that's full of martial arts, adventure, and cheese.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:43 am

I would look forward to seeing a retaliation from Japan or a complete reboot.
Either way, no more Chatku, PLEASE.

Interesting tidbit related to sales that I thought would fit better in this thread than the main DBE one: http://www.civilizedjames.org/

CivilizedJames wrote:ENGLISH: Sad news for Czech fans of James, PR manager of Bonton Film.cz, the Czech distribution company of Dragonball Evolution confirmed me that Dragonball Evolution was drop out from the distributing schedule and will come out only on DVD. Unfortunately I was kinda expecting this and it looks like we are not the only country who lost the theatrical release, I can't find it in Slovakia, Denmark and Finland at the moment. According to the most recent info on variety.com the movie has earned more then $50 mill. worldwide.

Though in relation to that last line, Box Office Mojo still says
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dragonball.htm

Box Office Mojo wrote:Domestic: $8,077,360 18.0%
+ Foreign: $36,867,875 82.0%
Worldwide: $44,945,235

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:01 am

My question is why didn’t Japan make a decent one of their own along time ago?

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:27 am

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:56 am

Saiyan Professor wrote:My question is why didn’t Japan make a decent one of their own along time ago?

Was there ever really that much of a demand for a live-action movie though? Sure people have talked about it but I don't think I've ever heard "Oh yeah I want to see that happen" When they announced this movie the general reaction was a bunch of groans and "uh ohs". At least that's how it seemed to me.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:11 am

Chrono Trigger wrote:
Saiyan Professor wrote:My question is why didn’t Japan make a decent one of their own along time ago?
Was there ever really that much of a demand for a live-action movie though? Sure people have talked about it but I don't think I've ever heard "Oh yeah I want to see that happen" When they announced this movie the general reaction was a bunch of groans and "uh ohs". At least that's how it seemed to me.

Honestly I think you are correct to a degree Dragonball fans are so anal that I believe regardless of who did it and how much money is spent there are going to be extreme reactions that results in what we see here. We hear a lot on this forum about how Fox should have stuck to the source material but if that have happened there would have been people crying saying that it was too unrealistic.

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:41 am

Herms wrote:
Conan the SSJ wrote:Here's hopin'. That is pretty pathetic, though Fox only have themselves to blame IMO. They could've put so much more hype, build-up, passion, something into this movie beyond the sub-mediocre crap it got. It's almost sad... Almost.
They certainly could have advertised it more, at least in America. I never saw a single ad for it anywhere in America, but I've seen a few posters for it around Tokyo.

It was advertised constantly on the kids channels.

Super Sayian Prime · Post by **Super Sayian Prime** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:33 pm

Victator Supreme wrote:
Herms wrote:
Conan the SSJ wrote:Here's hopin'. That is pretty pathetic, though Fox only have themselves to blame IMO. They could've put so much more hype, build-up, passion, something into this movie beyond the sub-mediocre crap it got. It's almost sad... Almost.
They certainly could have advertised it more, at least in America. I never saw a single ad for it anywhere in America, but I've seen a few posters for it around Tokyo.
It was advertised constantly on the kids channels...

a week and a half before it premiered.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:56 pm

We also have to factor in the cost of making DVDs. Revenue from DVDs helps a ton, but it's not a gross profit, it's another net profit.

Although, DBE seems to have standing power in the 10th place spot of Canada's top 10. I wouldn't be surprised if this weekend brought in another $150-200k (which is, what, $130-$175k US?). It will, however, get its ass handed to it the week after that (May movie premiers). If DBE does get a sequel, it'll either be a DTV and/or produced by a fanatic (which is plausible, seeing how obsessed Piccolo's actor is).

I wonder how things would have been if they started with the Saiyan/Freeza saga, and then used DBE as a prequel.

Timo · Post by **Timo** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:00 pm

Chuquita wrote:I would look forward to seeing a retaliation from Japan or a complete reboot.
Either way, no more Chatku, PLEASE.

Interesting tidbit related to sales that I thought would fit better in this thread than the main DBE one: http://www.civilizedjames.org/
CivilizedJames wrote:ENGLISH: Sad news for Czech fans of James, PR manager of Bonton Film.cz, the Czech distribution company of Dragonball Evolution confirmed me that Dragonball Evolution was drop out from the distributing schedule and will come out only on DVD. Unfortunately I was kinda expecting this and it looks like we are not the only country who lost the theatrical release, I can't find it in Slovakia, Denmark and Finland at the moment. According to the most recent info on variety.com the movie has earned more then $50 mill. worldwide.

Though in relation to that last line, Box Office Mojo still says
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dragonball.htm
Box Office Mojo wrote:Domestic: $8,077,360 18.0%
+ Foreign: $36,867,875 82.0%
Worldwide: $44,945,235

Interesting. Over here in Germany, the movie's theatrical release will be not till June 11th. It wouldn't surprise me Fox Germany cancel this and there will be only a DVD release.

Rory · Post by **Rory** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:25 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:Honestly I think you are correct to a degree Dragonball fans are so anal that I believe regardless of who did it and how much money is spent there are going to be extreme reactions that results in what we see here.

You act as if that isn't apparent in EVERY fandom.

Spiderman 3 anyone?

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:03 pm

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:
Victator Supreme wrote:
Herms wrote: They certainly could have advertised it more, at least in America. I never saw a single ad for it anywhere in America, but I've seen a few posters for it around Tokyo.
It was advertised constantly on the kids channels...
a week and a half before it premiered.

I had been seeing them for at least three weeks before hand.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:38 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Chrono Trigger wrote:
Saiyan Professor wrote:My question is why didn’t Japan make a decent one of their own along time ago?
Was there ever really that much of a demand for a live-action movie though? Sure people have talked about it but I don't think I've ever heard "Oh yeah I want to see that happen" When they announced this movie the general reaction was a bunch of groans and "uh ohs". At least that's how it seemed to me.
Honestly I think you are correct to a degree Dragonball fans are so anal that I believe regardless of who did it and how much money is spent there are going to be extreme reactions that results in what we see here. We hear a lot on this forum about how Fox should have stuck to the source material but if that have happened there would have been people crying saying that it was too unrealistic.

You can't please everyone all the time. I know that. However, FOX could've pleased a lot more people by making it more like the source material.

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:01 pm

Chrono Trigger wrote:
Saiyan Professor wrote:My question is why didn’t Japan make a decent one of their own along time ago?
Was there ever really that much of a demand for a live-action movie though? Sure people have talked about it but I don't think I've ever heard "Oh yeah I want to see that happen" When they announced this movie the general reaction was a bunch of groans and "uh ohs". At least that's how it seemed to me.

Yeah, I think they simply knew better...

Super Sayian Prime · Post by **Super Sayian Prime** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:49 pm

Victator Supreme wrote:
Super Saiyan Prime wrote:
Victator Supreme wrote: It was advertised constantly on the kids channels...
a week and a half before it premiered.
I had been seeing them for at least three weeks before hand.

Well I started seeing them a week and a half before it premiered.

KaiserNeko · Post by **KaiserNeko** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:08 pm

Rory wrote:You act as if that isn't apparent in EVERY fandom.
Spiderman 3 anyone?

Spider-Man 3 was pretty bad, though, and I'm not even a huge fan of Spider-Man.