Unexpected Dragon Ball/Z/GT Experiences!

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:31 pm

MCDaveG wrote:You know, you have full head of DB series and that can be pretty annoying sometimes and contraproductive.

I'm only asking, because I don't know much people here since I'm here for a quite long time.

Aside: Damn, in Hungary is Dragon Ball series officialy banned for TV broadcast because of kids that tried to learn bukujutsu from top of the buildings..... That's one fo the reasons why is DB not aired in my country, because channel A+ was converted to Animax 4 years ago and we are sharing the same rights on TV shows with Hungary......
Tell me those kids were at least under the age of 6. If not, that's just stupid.

If they're gonna ban DB, they might as well ban Superman, Spiderman, Batman and all other beloved cartoons that no-one makes a song-and-dance about.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:56 pm

My 5th Grade Teacher was a DBZ fan. This was back in 2002/2003 when it was really popular, too. I remember when he was explaining stuff about force/physics, this one kid was having trouble understanding it, so he used the Kid Buu-Goku Spirit Bomb struggle as an example to explain it :P .
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Post by LilKokuLink » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:58 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:My 5th Grade Teacher was a DBZ fan. This was back in 2002/2003 when it was really popular, too. I remember when he was explaining stuff about force/physics, this one kid was having trouble understanding it, so he used the Kid Buu-Goku Spirit Bomb struggle as an example to explain it :P .
Lool that must have been really funny! I remember my old primary school teacher used to hate it and if anyone mentioned it we got sent out :D lol. Now I remember, we always used to play fight DBZ in the playground when we were 5/6 lol, it wasn't as fun when you got punched in the face :P
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Post by MCDaveG » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:16 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:
MCDaveG wrote:You know, you have full head of DB series and that can be pretty annoying sometimes and contraproductive.

I'm only asking, because I don't know much people here since I'm here for a quite long time.

Aside: Damn, in Hungary is Dragon Ball series officialy banned for TV broadcast because of kids that tried to learn bukujutsu from top of the buildings..... That's one fo the reasons why is DB not aired in my country, because channel A+ was converted to Animax 4 years ago and we are sharing the same rights on TV shows with Hungary......
Tell me those kids were at least under the age of 6. If not, that's just stupid.

If they're gonna ban DB, they might as well ban Superman, Spiderman, Batman and all other beloved cartoons that no-one makes a song-and-dance about.
cca 8 years old, but that's enough for some people to ban it. Lot of censhorship doesn't even make sense.....
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Post by LilKokuLink » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:27 pm

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Piccolo Daimao wrote:
MCDaveG wrote:You know, you have full head of DB series and that can be pretty annoying sometimes and contraproductive.

I'm only asking, because I don't know much people here since I'm here for a quite long time.

Aside: Damn, in Hungary is Dragon Ball series officialy banned for TV broadcast because of kids that tried to learn bukujutsu from top of the buildings..... That's one fo the reasons why is DB not aired in my country, because channel A+ was converted to Animax 4 years ago and we are sharing the same rights on TV shows with Hungary......
Tell me those kids were at least under the age of 6. If not, that's just stupid.

If they're gonna ban DB, they might as well ban Superman, Spiderman, Batman and all other beloved cartoons that no-one makes a song-and-dance about.
cca 8 years old, but that's enough for some people to ban it. Lot of censhorship doesn't even make sense.....
Well I probably shouldn't be saying this but yea... DBZ was always an influential anime... I still don't see how a few cases should ruin it for the rest of your country (well... I'm guessing Hungary if it is). If parents cannot control their kids then it is their fault, I think thats not fair.
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:38 pm

LilKokuLink wrote:Well I probably shouldn't be saying this but yea... DBZ was always an influential anime... I still don't see how a few cases should ruin it for the rest of your country (well... I'm guessing Hungary if it is). If parents cannot control their kids then it is their fault, I think thats not fair.
It's just like with those few cases of teenagers that commit murders because they've been influenced by games like Grand Theft Auto & Call Of Duty. What really peeves me off is that you hear some guy on TV who's obviously never played one of these games in his entire life preaching about how violent video games are "corrupting people's minds" and how he can't fathom how "people take pleasure out of shooting people with guns". 1, it's a frikkin' video game, not real life, 2, don't blame video games for those teenagers' crimes, blame the parents or blame the kid's own damn mentality. Take responsibility for your own actions. 3, why is it that video games are always the easy target? What about violent movies, like Saw & Scarface?

I hate hypocrisy.

Oh yeah, and is it just me, but with Dragon Ball manga releases, they seem to be less tolerant on violence than nudity. "Yeah, we'll allow that head getting ripped off, but no no no, censor that breast!"
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Post by MCDaveG » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:57 pm

With that rights it's simple, A+ channel, where there was anime in original japanese with subtitles was bought by stronger brand Animax, right before broadcast in our state went digital only and analog was set off. This Animax is the same version and same program that runs in Hungary, only that it's localized to CZ language, so unfortunately lot of anime is dubbed into Czech and if you want to switch to second audio track, It's in Hungarian. This option is probably cheaper then buying own rights on TV shows and making a completely domestic version of Animax and because Dragon Ball is banned in Hungary, there is no hope to see a run of DB series on Animax. Anime is not that popular here in mainstream and only TV series that aired outside Animax were two series of Digimon, Beyblade and Pokémon. I don't count that dumb Disney Channel with Naruto (censored) and Shaman King (also censored).

This really sucks, I'm relying on fansubs or expensive imports because of this....
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Post by LilKokuLink » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:57 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:
It's just like with those few cases of teenagers that commit murders because they've been influenced by games like Grand Theft Auto & Call Of Duty. What really peeves me off is that you hear some guy on TV who's obviously never played one of these games in his entire life preaching about how violent video games are "corrupting people's minds" and how he can't fathom how "people take pleasure out of shooting people with guns". 1, it's a frikkin' video game, not real life, 2, don't blame video games for those teenagers' crimes, blame the parents or blame the kid's own damn mentality. Take responsibility for your own actions. 3, why is it that video games are always the easy target? What about violent movies, like Saw & Scarface?

I hate hypocrisy.

Oh yeah, and is it just me, but with Dragon Ball manga releases, they seem to be less tolerant on violence than nudity. "Yeah, we'll allow that head getting ripped off, but no no no, censor that breast!"
You're right in every single way.. I totally agree with you. I just find it a shame that as these things happen, other people have to be dragged down with them. My parents think I'm "agressive" from DBZ, and that it's bad for me, but growing up watching it as a kid it's taught me so much more than just that you know? There's so much depth into what happens in DB/Z/GT with emotion and how can something like that be banned in any place? Kinda sucks but meh. I love it :P
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Post by LilKokuLink » Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:00 pm

MCDaveG wrote:With that rights it's simple, A+ channel, where there was anime in original japanese with subtitles was bought by stronger brand Animax, right before broadcast in our state went digital only and analog was set off. This Animax is the same version and same program that runs in Hungary, only that it's localized to CZ language, so unfortunately lot of anime is dubbed into Czech and if you want to switch to second audio track, It's in Hungarian. This option is probably cheaper then buying own rights on TV shows and making a completely domestic version of Animax and because Dragon Ball is banned in Hungary, there is no hope to see a run of DB series on Animax. Anime is not that popular here in mainstream and only TV series that aired outside Animax were two series of Digimon, Beyblade and Pokémon. I don't count that dumb Disney Channel with Naruto (censored) and Shaman King (also censored).

This really sucks, I'm relying on fansubs or expensive imports because of this....
I feel for you man :/ What are imports like for Prague from Amazon.com etc.? Amazon isn't too expensive, a good selection is eligble for free delivery for products over $25, and I take advantage of that from the UK all the time! I think Czech Republic is okay for it too.
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Post by MCDaveG » Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:09 pm

The last thing imported from US cost 40$ for shipping from Ebay.
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It was express and it arrived month after it got paid.

I dunno, maybe I'm idiot and there are cheaper methods :lol:
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Post by Kiyza » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:44 pm

When I was at my neighbor's house for a party, we pulled out his old Super Nintendo and started playing games on it. (Yeah, it's a classic, but we still enjoy it.) While I was looking though his stuff, I found every Dragon Ball Z movie and around half of the orange bricks. I pulled them out saying "You have all of this!?" His wife didn't know it, and proceded to yell at him for keeping anime DVDs. I knew he was a fan since he had a bunch of the PS2 game, but I never knew he was that into it.

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Post by Hujio » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:22 pm

A while back I was at my local Borders store perusing the manga section, and a girl and her boyfriend (an assumption on my part) walked in and started looking at the manga as well. The girl picked up one of the Naruto ani-manga and scoffed, saying "I hate these ani-manga things". Of course, as I always do, I was eavesdropping. And without even thinking or looking up from the manga in my hands, I blurted out, "I know, they're so redundant". They both looked up at me with these weird looks on their faces (probably because I was eavesdropping, but mostly because I looked like a crazy eavesdropping person) and walked away without saying a single word. So, I just went back to reading my manga in peace. :P

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Post by Godo » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:16 am

Hujio wrote:A while back I was at my local Borders store perusing the manga section, and a girl and her boyfriend (an assumption on my part) walked in and started looking at the manga as well. The girl picked up one of the Naruto ani-manga and scoffed, saying "I hate these ani-manga things". Of course, as I always do, I was eavesdropping. And without even thinking or looking up from the manga in my hands, I blurted out, "I know, they're so redundant". They both looked up at me with these weird looks on their faces (probably because I was eavesdropping, but mostly because I looked like a crazy eavesdropping person) and walked away without saying a single word. So, I just went back to reading my manga in peace. :P

Good times...
I wonder why you write "manga" in italic. Is that a personal thing or is that how you write it grammatically correct?

On the "kids jumping from buildings" note, kids jumped from buildings when they played Pokémon too, and that didn't lead to it's ban.
But I remember that Power Rangers got banned in Sweden, because two boys and a girl played Power Rangers and the boys beat her to death. It was all over the news.
Of course, they didn't cancel it because of censorship, they did it because of that they didn't want to get sued or to get their other shows banned or boycotted. And I think that it was the same deal in Hungary with Dragonball.
Because in reality, more children die from crossing or playing by railroads than watching anime. And more CEOs of television companies die by suicide from heavily dropped viewer rates than angry moms (I won't give any sources for my statistics, although they seem kinda logical).

When I was 15, a guy in my class read the Dragonball manga too, and the first time we spoke about it, I told him (when he asked me what I did in the weekend), that I competed in the Tenkaichi Budokai (I had seen him with a volume in his hand), and that I won it.
He called me a liar, and told me that I came 2nd place , because of that he was the one that came 1st place.
Then he told be that he was trained by Goku, and I told him that I was trained by Piccolo.
But most of the time we spoke about the happenings in the latest volume. At that time it was still being released in Sweden.

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Post by SparkyPantsMcGee » Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:45 pm

One time I was in the student cafeteria in my college and my computer was on, at the time my desktop was a picture of Goku and Vegeta. Out of no where this kid was like "DBZ FUCK YEA!", gave me a high-five, and went to class. Never saw the kid again but It was a funny moment.

Another moment was in Playstation's HOME. I was goofing around with my friend and we were in the mall area. We were just walking around when there was a speech bubble that mentioned something about "DBZ". When my friend and I saw this we ran up to him and went "DID SOMEONE SAY DRAGON BALL Z?" the kid was like "yea I did, what about it?" my friend and I went "BEST SHOW EVER!!!" The kid agreed with us and continued talking to his friends about DBZ, GoW, and Jay and Silent Bob, making him the third coolest person on PSN(next to my friend and I lol).
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Post by SparkyPantsMcGee » Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:51 pm

SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:One time I was in the student cafeteria in my college and my computer was on, at the time my desktop was a picture of Goku and Vegeta. Out of no where this kid was like "DBZ FUCK YEA!", gave me a high-five, and went to class. Never saw the kid again but It was a funny moment.

Another moment was in Playstation's HOME. I was goofing around with my friend and we were in the mall area. We were just walking around when there was a kid with a speech bubble that mentioned something about "DBZ". When my friend and I saw this we ran up to him and went "DID SOMEONE SAY DRAGON BALL Z?" the kid was like "yea I did, what about it?" my friend and I went "BEST SHOW EVER!!!" The kid agreed with us and continued talking to his friends about DBZ, GoW, and Jay and Silent Bob, making him the third coolest person on PSN(next to my friend and I lol).
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