How do you think Cooler came to resent Fr­ieza so much

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Re: How do you think Cooler came to resent Fr­ieza so much

Post by Savage68 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:35 am

Yeah, or you can let people use whatever version of the name they please, since you'll already know exactly who it is they're referring to.

I use Frieza and Cooler. I like one over the other. I also prefer Vegetto over Vegito and Jeice over Jheese. We all know who these characters are by now.

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Re: How do you think Cooler came to resent Fr­ieza so much

Post by caejones » Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:56 am

Jaws pronounces "Freeza" correctly, but pronounces "FRiEZA" as "Free-eeza", if that makes any difference? (Well, the way I had to get past the filter comes out as "Eff-Righ-Eeeza", but nya.)
Though admitedly, "Free-eeza" sounds cooler than "Frigh-za", which may have something to do with my not caring too much. Ur... presently. XD

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Re: How do you think Cooler came to resent Fr­ieza so much

Post by Xyex » Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:17 am

I've never seen Frieza and thought "Fry-za" for the pronunciation and really don't see how anyone could....

As for the Freeza/Freezer and Coola/Cooler matter.... Freezer sounds like Bobby Drake's 2nd cousin and Coola is the newest soft drink craze. Thus I use Freeza and Cooler.
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Re: How do you think Cooler came to resent Fr­ieza so much

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:19 am

Xyex wrote:I've never seen Frieza and thought "Fry-za" for the pronunciation and really don't see how anyone could....

As for the Freeza/Freezer and Coola/Cooler matter.... Freezer sounds like Bobby Drake's 2nd cousin and Coola is the newest soft drink craze. Thus I use Freeza and Cooler.
Both Freeza and Freezer are acceptable but I personally use Freeza. As for Frieza (with an "i" before the "e"), I guess it is acceptable but it just depends on the way you pronounce it, much like Saiyan.

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Re: How do you think Cooler came to resent Fr­ieza so much

Post by Rocketman » Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:00 am

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:And this matters, why? Oh yeah, it doesn't.
Here, Mike sums it up pretty well. Plus, "F-r-i-e-z-a" isn't pronounced "Freeza." Just like "Saiyan" isn't pronounced "Seiyan." :P
And "bough" isn't pronounced "bow".

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Re: How do you think Cooler came to resent Fr­ieza so much

Post by Taku128 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:04 am

jjgp1112 wrote:
penguintruth wrote:
Cooler
F r i e z a
:x :x :x
And this matters, why? Oh yeah, it doesn't.
If it doesn't matter why hit ALT+0173 to put an invisible character inside of the name Fr­ieza?
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Re: How do you think Cooler came to resent Fr­ieza so much

Post by Vhanos » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:58 am

A-dono wrote:I didn't see it as hatred. More like professional jealousy (until Coola surpassed Freeza with his extra transformation) and Coola simply being critical of Freeza for allowing Goku to escape Planet Vegeta's destruction. All of Coola's hatred was reserved for Goku and the Saiyajin as a whole for disgracing their royal bloodline.
He wasn't jealous of Freeza.

Cooler was of the mind that his brother was foolish or that he had much to learn.

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Re: How do you think Cooler came to resent Fr­ieza so much

Post by hui43210 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:17 am

I thought it was because Coola is a prick! :lol:

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Re: How do you think Cooler came to resent Fr­ieza so much

Post by Haseowolf » Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:51 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
penguintruth wrote:
Cooler
F r i e z a
:x :x :x
And this matters, why? Oh yeah, it doesn't.
CashmanX wrote:From one of the many instances where the Dub warps the intended tone and atmosphere of the original.
I'm basing it off the subs, but feel free to assume what you want. If I based it off the dub, I would've said he would've intended to kill him. :roll:
I know on some of FUNi's older releases they had two subtitle tracks. One real subtitle track and a dubtitle track. Why they thought the deaf needed to read some crappy translations are beyond me. But either way, if you're watching the original single release with the subs, just be sure you're on the right one. Easy mistake. I've done it while ripping DVD's only to find I only ripped the dubtitles track :mrgreen:
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Re: How do you think Cooler came to resent Fr­ieza so much

Post by Savage68 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:22 pm

Haseowolf wrote:Why they thought the deaf needed to read some crappy translations are beyond me.
Subtitles are for more than just the deaf.

And it's for the same reason they think the viewers with perfect hearing wanted to hear crappy lines(you can't really call it a translation when they completely changed a good portion of it).

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Re: How do you think Cooler came to resent Fr­ieza so much

Post by jjgp1112 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:44 pm

Um, I was reading it off of the subtitles from the Double Feature...WHICH DOESN'T HAVE DUBTITLES.
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Re: How do you think Cooler came to resent Fr­ieza so much

Post by Haseowolf » Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:25 pm

Sorry jjpg, just bringing it up.

Anyhow, here's what I've got from the subs on the Double Feature release from two scenes. The first is from Coola and his men observing the destruction of Planet Vegeta:
However, even though it's a baby, for him to let even one Saiyan go...

The plan to exterminate the Saiyans and take control of this district being delayed is all due to Freeza's arrogant conceit!

Freeza is still much, much too soft.
And here from his throne on some destroyed planet:
What?! Freeza, who carries our glorious bloodline, was killed by a low-life Saiyan!?

Freeza, you damned fool!

I always knew you were soft, but to be beaten by a mere monkey?
Though there are exclamation points in some of the lines, Coola's tone is completely calm the entire time. At no point is he angry or enraged when speaking about Freeza or how he runs things.

He doesn't seem happy that Freeza was done in by his own ignorance (Which if you hated them, wouldn't you be happy?), but more just dishonored by the fact that a Saiyan was able to overtake one of his own blood.

Hmmm...I think it's hard to tell exactly how Coola feels about all this, but I certainly don't think he's angry at Freeza or upset with his own situation, he actually takes great pride in his accomplishments and doesn't feel threatened by Freeza at all.
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