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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sun May 09, 2010 1:18 am

M4rb wrote:I put up English scanlations for DBZERO on my website.
Thanks so much and I absolutely love your website. :P

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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by DNA » Sun May 09, 2010 7:23 am

M4rb wrote:I put up English scanlations for DBZERO on my website.
Amazing work! Congratulations! All you've done is very impressive indeed.

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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by Amaranth Sparrow » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:33 am

It's a good doujinshi, lots of little details.

I particularily liked Desset being a barren wasteland occupied by really strong natives, with the big roots that seemed to blend into the terrain. Didn't even make the connection until the fruit of the Tree of Might dropped down into the crater with Tullece at the end.

And then Cabberoge, the Saiyan kid who had been sent to Orderve (hors d'oeuvre) as a baby was a nice little touch. He was even wearing the same clothing as the natives (just like Goku would on Earth).

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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by DNA » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:19 am

By the way, the inhabitants of Desset are the monsters from one of Toryama's drawings from GT when it was still in planning phase. Dunno if anyone caught that one.

Unrelated, is there any possibility to give a similar treatment to Mutenroshi's special AF chapter?

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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by Jaruka » Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:20 am

Sorry to bump an old topic but Zero is amazing! It even makes me wish it was official canon because it ties up a lot of loose ends, explains Turles' far better than the movie ever did, shows us more about Saiyan life and, when I was younger, I was a massive Raditz fan and this almost made it quite sad thinking that Goku killed Raditz and then eventually Turles too... :(
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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by Maphisto86 » Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:52 am

I actually have not read this doujinshi until now and I gotta say it was better than I anticipated. Nice set up with the events of the Bardock special feature and the epilogue at the end about how Tullece found the "power fruit" was a nice touch. Not to mention the little Order 66esque montage of Freeza's goons wiping out surviving Saiyans across the universe. Good artwork as always from Toyable. 8)

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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by macho_man » Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:09 pm

From a very recent interview to Toriyama (source: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... -super-qa/)
"Question - Please tell us about Bardock’s family structure! Did Goku, and also Bardock himself, have any siblings? (Apart from Raditz, that is….)
Answer - The quartet of Bardock, Gine, Raditz, and Kakarrot make up Bardock’s family, such as it is, but all four of them were never together.
Also, I think that Bardock himself might have had siblings, but perhaps even Bardock himself doesn’t really know, and at any rate, he probably has no interest in it, either.
Saiyans don’t have much of a concept of “family”."
This was the mother of Goku mentioned from Toriyama sensei.

Now this is the mother of Goku mentioned from Toyble so far. Look at this special chapter from Toyble's DBZero (drawn in the 2010) and laugh thinking at it (I'm not so sure it has been scanlated and edited in english): http://www71.zippyshare.com/v/74583304/file.html

Toyble has been kinda prophetic! :mrgreen:
And... maybe we will talk again about DBZero when we'll see the special Giaco extra chapter with Gine, the mother of Goku. I hope for a Ratitz and Bardock cameo in it like this.

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and this is from the special chapter -the secret of bardock- ImageImage

And now, at the very end, this is who, ipotetically, would be Raditz's and Kakaroth's mother according to Toyble's thoughts (not drawn in a doujinshi fortunately, it still remained draft in 2010):
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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by macho_man » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:04 am

Dragon Ball Minus is a reality just now (and the mother of Goku too!), it's the true official prequel. Considerations? What about retcons and plotholes? Do you think is there a way to make coexist DB Zero (and in addition DB Zero The Secret Of Bardock), DB Minus, DBZ Movie - Bardock The Father Of Goku and Episode Of Bardock all together?

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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:12 pm

DB- directly contradicts the TV special, and maybe Episode of Bardock. So it's already impossible to make everything fit as is. Would never really have a reason to make any of Toyble's stuff fit into any of the series' continuities though, because they aren't official works for the franchise. His Toyotaro stuff, like Victory Mission? Fine. But Toyble has no impact on Dragon Ball for me. Others can do what they want though.
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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by Raykugen » Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:22 pm

DB Minus is crap compared to DB Zero.
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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by macho_man » Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:06 am

http://blog.livedoor.jp/toyble/archives/52028726.html
Toyble just updated his blog with his considerations about giaco and dragon ball minus. In addition, he has just added dbzero scans (along with episode1 'secret of bardock' pages). Anyone could provide a translation for this post?

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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by auspx » Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:00 pm

Raykugen wrote:DB Minus is crap compared to DB Zero.
I have to agree. The only thing wrong with DB Zero is: Tullece (the events depicted in Movie 3 can't exist in the canon universe) and that Raditz and his friends look like teenagers but are supposed to be 7 or 8 year old kids. Other than that DB Zero is a much better prequel to DragonBall and it complements the Bardock TV special very well. I really liked that part where Raditz says that he doesn't care about his little brother. It certainly explains why he didn't go to Earth to bring his brother back right after learning that Planet Vegeta and their entire civilization was destroyed.

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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by auspx » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:25 am

macho_man wrote:And now, at the very end, this is who, ipotetically, would be Raditz's and Kakaroth's mother according to Toyble's thoughts (not drawn in a doujinshi fortunately, it still remained draft in 2010):
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A full color version of this image.
http://sweet-turnip.deviantart.com/art/ ... -259798339
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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by macho_man » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:03 am

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If anyone - artist or not - is interested in it, these are my own raw scans of DBZERO Draft Version:
http://www18.zippyshare.com/v/9789261/file.html
Any time soon (two-three weeks) I'll post the new DBAF pages in the related topic too, just stay tuned. ;-)

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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:17 am

Could you repost the DBZero - Episode 1 scanlations? The previous link doesn't work anymore.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by macho_man » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:44 am

Well, these are my DBZERO Episode1 scans: http://www15.zippyshare.com/v/72627083/file.html
I don't remember if there has been an english translation of this, but here you can find a french one:
http://www.fan-manga-dbz.com/dbzero.php ... #nom_ancre
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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:51 am

Don't you have it in English? Because you posted this before:

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James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by macho_man » Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:01 am

Ok, but they were translated from japanese to spanish (by ernespa), after from spanish to french (by Gokuten) and even after from french to english (by me), and I'm Italian! :lol:
Even so, if you really want them just give me a few hours :)

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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:29 am

No need to hurry, just post them whenever you can. :thumbup:
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Toyble's DB Zero

Post by macho_man » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:30 am

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... start=1780
I've found Herm's translation, I requote it here:
Page 0
DB Zero episode 1
~Bardock’s Secret~

Page 1
Narrator: About 1 year before Planet Vegeta’s destruction…Bardock and the others had returned from the battlefield for the first time in several months—
Raditz: Dad!!!
Bardock: Raditz!
Raditz: Welcome back.
Raditz: Oh, this is “Tullece”!
Tullece: H…Hello.
Bardock: [r] Tullece? [l] Now where have I heard that name before?...
Raditz (offscreen): [r] He doesn’t have a dad! [l] He wanted to see mine, so I brought him.

Page 2
Raditz: See, you really do look like my dad.
Tullece: Re…Really?
Raditz: You’re identical! You sure we aren’t related? Well, they do say there aren’t that many types of Saiyan faces…
Tullece: Oh! Mom!
Bardock: I knew it…!!!
Raditz: [r] Hey, Tullece’s mom! [l] Here’s my dad!

Page 3
Mom: [r] Oh, nice to meet you. [l] Bardock.
Bardock: [r] The…[l] The pleasure’s all mine.
Raditz: Huh? How’d you know dad’s name?
Tullece: Raditz’s dad just returned from a long trip and was about to go back to his place.
Raditz: [r] Ah! [l] Hey! You came all the way here, so why don’t you all come to our house!
Mom: Oh, I wonder if your father will introduce me to his wife?
Raditz: Sure! Come on, come on!

Page 4
Mom SFX: Chirah
Bardock: Zokuh
Bardock: Ra…Raditz…
Bardock: [r] Let’s do it some other time! [l] OK?
Raditz: Huh? Why?
Bardock: Well…How do I say this? It’s not good for you to just spend all your time playing with other kids…
Narrator: The records list Tullece’s father as “Unknown”---
Mom: Fufufu

Page 5
DB Zero episode 1
Sorry that was so poorly done
Also, I've typesetted the dialogues and fixed just one line (at page 1, 'konnichiwa' translated with 'good morning' and not 'hello'), thanks to Gokuten for having cleaned the scans. Also, I've put in the sfx too (thanks to this site: http://thejadednetwork.com/sfx/)
That's all for now, just download it! :lol: http://www67.zippyshare.com/v/5273338/file.html

* edit: honorifics added
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