Dragon Ball Z Spanish "Las Peliculas Vol 1" Boxset review

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Post by rereboy » Sun May 02, 2010 9:30 am

SonGokuGT wrote:Rereboy,

So the French made that crack about Miss Portugal '97? :roll:
How about you read the part where I stated that the video posted focuses mainly on the parts that the Portuguese version did its own mistakes, although most of it are actually liberties done on purpose to make some moments funnier?

That would have saved you a useless post.
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SonGokuGT wrote:Rereboy,

So the French made that crack about Miss Portugal '97? :roll:
No, the French dub really hasn't gotten that many erros as Rereboy is claiming.... I know this because I've watched large portions in French.
All I stated was that most of the true mistakes of the Portuguese Dub originated on the French Dub (if it weren`t most of them, then it certainly were a lot of them).
Then the Portuguese dub did its own mistakes and it also took some liberties to make some moments funnier (and that is what the video focuses on).

In short, the Portuguese dub`s translation sucks compared to the original because it cumulates the errors of the French Dub and its own errors. And only its own errors are actually the Portuguese dub`s fault. That`s all I`m saying.

For example, the fact that Piccolo is named "little heart of satan" in the Portuguese Dub is because that was his name in the French Dub, the fact that Vegeta almost always calls Goku by his Earth name in the Portuguese Dub is because of the French Dub, the fact that Mr. Satan is named "Hercule" in the Portuguese Dub is because of the French Dub, etc, etc. These are just a few examples about character names that I can think up on top of my head.

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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Sun May 02, 2010 2:18 pm

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Are you really comparing Dragonball music to someone having cancer? Even "loosely" that's still batshit. Be honest you're using the cancer scenario even though you realize it's stupid to try and add some severity to your argument.
Yeah I'm done here.
Absolutely not. I said "loosely," keep in mind. I also said the severity of the issues are totally different. I'm saying it's simmilar in the context of being bitter even after a problem has been resolved. Why bother? I've never understood that, that's all. Once a problem's done, it's done.
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Post by Freeza Heika » Sun May 02, 2010 3:48 pm

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Blue wrote:
Are you really comparing Dragonball music to someone having cancer? Even "loosely" that's still batshit. Be honest you're using the cancer scenario even though you realize it's stupid to try and add some severity to your argument.
Yeah I'm done here.
Absolutely not. I said "loosely," keep in mind. I also said the severity of the issues are totally different. I'm saying it's simmilar in the context of being bitter even after a problem has been resolved. Why bother? I've never understood that, that's all. Once a problem's done, it's done.
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Post by DB_Fan1991 » Sun May 02, 2010 4:02 pm

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TheBlackPaladin wrote:"Every dub other than the American dub has accurately-translated dialogue."
Utter bullshit. Though it's true that every dub other than the American dub has the original BGM, at least...

The dubs in these DVDs are all inaccurate in several ways. From Saiyans being called "Space warriors" to rewritten lines to Broly calling Gokû by his Earth name to calling out the wrong attack names... They're pretty bad. I can't say much about the acting quality because I just don't *want* to watch these knowing in advance the script is a pile of crap.
Actually the Catalan version is the most decent dub of those 3 as unlike most of the other dubs they have dubbed the insert songs in Movies 1 & 2, and for the first 6 the ending theme is also dubbed.
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Post by Blue » Sun May 02, 2010 7:07 pm

Freeza Heika wrote:
TheBlackPaladin wrote:
Blue wrote:
Are you really comparing Dragonball music to someone having cancer? Even "loosely" that's still batshit. Be honest you're using the cancer scenario even though you realize it's stupid to try and add some severity to your argument.
Yeah I'm done here.
Absolutely not. I said "loosely," keep in mind. I also said the severity of the issues are totally different. I'm saying it's simmilar in the context of being bitter even after a problem has been resolved. Why bother? I've never understood that, that's all. Once a problem's done, it's done.
A company not doing what its patrons want is in no way similar to a Doctor not curing cancer. One is a lack of will and the other a lack of ability. Normal businesses don't do things to have their egos stroked; they do it to make money. If they stop because they aren't praised, then they are a shit company.
Yeaaaah, this is a awful comparison for many reasons.
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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Mon May 03, 2010 3:06 am

*sighs*

And, in typical message board drama fashion, people have spun things out of control. At the same time, I'm the person who supplied the "cancer" comment and so by extension I'm the one who enabled things to spin out of control in the first place. So I offer both my disappointment and my apologies simultaneously.

So, while I don't appreciate people spinning that out of control (I said twice that they're not exactly similar), I'm sorry for bringing that up. It wasn't the best example. Forget I said that. Here's a better example. To me, still being bitter about the music is like still being bitter about the kid who pushed you off the swing set in third grade. It's over. Just like you made up with that kid, they put the music back in. Should you still be upset? I don't think so.

EDIT 4/3/2013:

Wow.....ok. Looking through some old posts and forgot about these. I highly doubt anyone cares this much, especially after all this time, but let it be known that I'm embarrassed beyond words looking back and these, and that my analogy was utterly and completely inappropriate on countless levels. So, long overdue and probably too late, but....complete, unreserved apology here, no excuses.
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Post by Blue » Mon May 03, 2010 3:50 am

TheBlackPaladin wrote:*sighs*

And, in typical message board drama fashion, people have spun things out of control. At the same time, I'm the person who supplied the "cancer" comment and so by extension I'm the one who enabled things to spin out of control in the first place. So I offer both my disappointment and my apologies simultaneously.

So, while I don't appreciate people spinning that out of control (I said twice that they're not exactly similar), I'm sorry for bringing that up. It wasn't the best example. Forget I said that. Here's a better example. To me, still being bitter about the music is like still being bitter about the kid who pushed you off the swing set in third grade. It's over. Just like you made up with that kid, they put the music back in. Should you still be upset? I don't think so.
Don't act exasperated because you offered up an awful analogy and were called out on it, what sense does that make? Next time don't compare Dragonball music to cancer victims and this won't happen. They didn't rewrite history. Their decade of failure is still acknowledged by everyone. What is so hard to grasp about this concept? Should we forget all about Big Rigs non existent A.I because they eventually released a patch for it? No, it was still a stupid choice they made that everyone can laugh at. Just because someone attempts to fix an issue doesn't mean their previous spectacular failures will be forgotten forever. They can still be looked upon and chuckled at. Your analogies are awful because you're under the impression Funi and I are fiercely entangled in some intense 1 on 1 rivalry which completely misses the point I'm trying to get across.

We're going in circles I'm seriously done this time.Have fun posting the last word so you may feel good about your efforts here.
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Post by Jon Jon » Mon May 03, 2010 6:44 am

I REALLY like that DVD box art.

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Post by Freeza Heika » Mon May 03, 2010 2:36 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote:Here's a better example. To me, still being bitter about the music is like still being bitter about the kid who pushed you off the swing set in third grade. It's over. Just like you made up with that kid, they put the music back in. Should you still be upset? I don't think so.

I never made up with that kid. I was a dick to him and then in high school, when I was the tough one, I beat his ass.

I hold grudges... seriously.
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Post by DbzFanboy » Tue May 04, 2010 12:15 am

I have a strong feeling they are going to release our u.s movie dragon box into volumes and if that's the case I will really be disappointed. It could easily be a 6 disc set with 5 disc's having 2 movies each and one having three movies but knowing how much funimation loves to space out releases I highly doubt they will do something that nice for us.
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Post by Budogenkai » Thu May 06, 2010 3:31 pm

I would only buy the Dragon Box movies in volumes if FUNi redubs all of them.
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Post by Puto » Thu May 06, 2010 7:54 pm

Oh, by the way, as an extra, each movie's disc includes on the menus some information about when the movie originally aired in Japan, between what episodes it was released, etc... Pretty neat stuff.
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Fri May 07, 2010 3:04 am

Budogenkai wrote:I would only buy the Dragon Box movies in volumes if FUNi redubs all of them.
Really? I think the movie dubs are really good. (With the possible exception of movies 4 and 5)



But there is no chance that FUNi is going to redub them.

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Post by MCDaveG » Fri May 07, 2010 5:41 am

The only most accurate dub in Europe will be actualy Catalan one, and other Spanish dubs after him, but other parts of Europe had this series from AB studio.
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Post by Timo » Sat May 08, 2010 4:34 pm

MCDaveG wrote:The only most accurate dub in Europe will be actualy Catalan one, and other Spanish dubs after him, but other parts of Europe had this series from AB studio.
I'd "vote" for the Italian Dub. Pretty accurate script and voices. Atlhough it has some name changes.

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Post by Puto » Sat May 08, 2010 10:42 pm

The German dub might also have a certain degree of accuracy not present on on other European dubs, since it lifted a lot of dialogue from their manga translation as opposed to just using the French dub's script. This doesn't apply to the movies or filler, though.

The Italian dub, though not based on the French dub like the rest of the European dubs, has a lot of name changes, more so than the French dub even, like Yamcha becoming Iamko and Tenshinhan becoming Tensing, Chaozu becoming Riff, Piccolo becoming Junior...
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sun May 09, 2010 1:10 am

Iamko? Riff? And people are bitching about FUNimation's name changes.

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Post by Timo » Sun May 09, 2010 7:58 am

Puto wrote:The German dub might also have a certain degree of accuracy not present on on other European dubs, since it lifted a lot of dialogue from their manga translation as opposed to just using the French dub's script. This doesn't apply to the movies or filler, though.
True, but the manga translation itself isn't pretty accurate. Plus the dub script is filled with a huge amount of stupid jokes and insults. Overall the German dub script is utterly shit.
The Italian dub, though not based on the French dub like the rest of the European dubs, has a lot of name changes, more so than the French dub even, like Yamcha becoming Iamko and Tenshinhan becoming Tensing, Chaozu becoming Riff, Piccolo becoming Junior...
Besides that, the Italian dub is pretty good.

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Post by Raki » Mon May 10, 2010 12:47 am

TheBlackPaladin wrote:
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They stopped making them because the sales sucked not because fans weren't sucking 4kids cock and praising them. That's a case of fans not putting their money where their mouth is. A completely unrelated problem.
Well, first off, it's not confirmed that it was due to low sales. There's evidence to suggest that it was because of legal problems with FUNimation, who played a big hand in the uncut.
I remember Zac from ANN responding to one of my posts stating they were cancelled due to low sales.
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Post by Zetto » Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:48 am

We have the same covers on the Greek Releases and also the same visual quality. Great release!
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