Should I buy the Dragon Box Movie Singles?

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Re: Should I buy the Dragon Box Movie Singles?

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun May 22, 2011 10:26 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Funimation buying the extras from them and then including them on our Dragon Boxes would result in more saled and therefore more money to Toei in return.
I don't understand if you're trying to say "sold", "sailed" as in Toei would sail the Dragon Box movie masters to North America, or "salad", as in green, as in currency, as in US Dollars, as in more profit for FUNimation.

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Really hope this means they'll announce the Dragon Box movies, because I don't think I want the double features (not just the price of some, but I have grown to dislike the overblown colors, and I have most of the singles anyway) and would love to replace my current singles/double features with them.

I was thinking about picking up the few singles I needed to replace the couple of double features I own to have a consistent 4:3 movie collection, but I wouldn't care about aspect ratio consistency (in terms of all of the movies, since the Dragon Ball films were only released in 4:3 by FUNimation, and widescreen Z movies would take away that consistency), as long as I had the phenomenal Dragon Box versions of the films. I'll wait and see whether they release the movie boxes now that this tweet about a potential announcement has come to light.
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Re: Should I buy the Dragon Box Movie Singles?

Post by Krycek7o2 » Sun May 22, 2011 11:07 pm

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jpdbzrulz4sure wrote:Hopefully, the two TV specials will make it on there, if not on the last volume of DBox Z.
I have a suspect that they don't have acess to the DBox extras, and unfortunately the TV Specials are part of those. I have explained in detail my point of view in this post: http://www.daizex.fanboyreview.net/view ... 64#p466664, but even intuitively it doesn't make any sense, for Toei didn't even re-released the extras on the the JP singles, therefore I doubt they would give it to FUNimation for their releases.

I was thinking this myself. The remastered TV Specials were never released outside of the Dragon Boxes in Japan. If r2 singles also included the TV Specials it would probably be a different situation. Of course this is all speculation and I can only hope we are all wrong and the TV Specials are indeed included as part of the movies. And, I don't know, maybe a re-dub for the Bardock special? I know, I know, it's not too much to ask, lol!

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Re: Should I buy the Dragon Box Movie Singles?

Post by SSJ2Engels » Sun May 22, 2011 11:11 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:That really wouldn't make any sense to me. Funimation buying the extras from them and then including them on our Dragon Boxes would result in more saled and therefore more money to Toei in return. If they really want to milk DBZGT and make more easy money off it like they tried to do with Kai, they shouldn't hold back on the extras that the fans want.
Yeah, but my point was that that Toei may want to kept the extras for themselves. Like, something that is chacteristic of their, and only their, release. So anyone who wanted/want the extras had to buy the Japaneses Boxes. If that isn't the case, then why they didn't release the extras in the single series? If you can think of an explanation, please spit it out to me. :D
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Re: Should I buy the Dragon Box Movie Singles?

Post by GotenDaisuki » Sun May 22, 2011 11:16 pm

Hell, Toei wanted the Dragon Boxes for themselves. They were very reluctant to give FUNimation access to those masters, which is why it took six years. Horrible timing, too. The Orange Bricks had just finished, and the Dragon Boxes were on their way shortly after.
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Re: Should I buy the Dragon Box Movie Singles?

Post by Ashura » Sun May 22, 2011 11:39 pm

GotenDaisuki wrote:FUNimation, from what I understand, only has access to the Z movies in Dragon Box format. They don't own the rights to the three Dragon Ball movies or the tenth anniversary movie in Dragon Box form. So, I highly doubt their Dragon Box: The Movies release will contain anything outside of the thirteen Dragon Ball Z movies.
Where does this info come from specifically? Sad, if true. :(
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Re: Should I buy the Dragon Box Movie Singles?

Post by Makaioshin » Sun May 22, 2011 11:48 pm

Ashura wrote:
GotenDaisuki wrote:FUNimation, from what I understand, only has access to the Z movies in Dragon Box format. They don't own the rights to the three Dragon Ball movies or the tenth anniversary movie in Dragon Box form. So, I highly doubt their Dragon Box: The Movies release will contain anything outside of the thirteen Dragon Ball Z movies.
Where does this info come from specifically? Sad, if true. :(
If I recall correctly, they announced that they acquired the footage for the Z episodes and films. They didn't say they had Dragon Box: The Movies, just that they had the Z films.

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Re: Should I buy the Dragon Box Movie Singles?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun May 22, 2011 11:53 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:I don't understand if you're trying to say "sold", "sailed" as in Toei would sail the Dragon Box movie masters to North America, or "salad", as in green, as in currency, as in US Dollars, as in more profit for FUNimation.
How about you try "sales". I mean, D is right next to S on the keyboard. I'd assume that would have been the obvious fix for the accidental typo, considering the context of the rest of the post. I have no idea how you came up with half your other suggestions, besides sold, the rest are a stretch in comparison. :roll:
SSJ2Engels wrote:Yeah, but my point was that that Toei may want to kept the extras for themselves. Like, something that is characteristic of their, and only their, release. So anyone who wanted/want the extras had to buy the Japaneses Boxes. If that isn't the case, then why they didn't release the extras in the single series? If you can think of an explanation, please spit it out to me. :D
I don't know, I just don't get why they would keep all the bonuses as exclusives for their boxes. Most of the world already has the Trunks and Bardock specials from before, so why keep those this time around if they gave us the Z series and movies? I can kind of understand not considering giving us the commercials and stuff like that, but those aren't really the extras I'm talking about. It'd be nice to have them, but I'm really just more interested in the bigger extras like the TV Specials, the Playdia footage, etc.

I can think of some reason for why they didn't add them to the single releases, but none of them are really that good. lol I end up always coming back to the money issue. I assume they made more off selling the boxes with extras for around $1000 than they would have if people just bought the extras on a $40 DVD or two after having imported cheaper releases of the series. lol But since they no longer produce the actual Dragon Boxes, if they want to make more money off the series, their only option would be to let someone purchase the bonuses or release them later on their own.
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Re: Should I buy the Dragon Box Movie Singles?

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun May 22, 2011 11:58 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:How about you try "sales". I mean, D is right next to S on the keyboard. I'd assume that would have been the obvious fix for the accidental typo, considering the context of the rest of the post. I have no idea how you came up with half your other suggestions, besides sold, the rest are a stretch in comparison. :roll:
I was trying to make a funny. :cry:

Anyways, the rest of my post, which was serious, seems to have been mostly lost due to a forum glitch, though it's still visible when making a new post, but won't be for long, so I'll post it again here.

Really hope this means they'll announce the Dragon Box movies, because I don't think I want the double features (not just the price of some, but I have grown to dislike the overblown colors, and I have most of the singles anyway) and would love to replace my current singles/double features with them.

I was thinking about picking up the few singles I needed to replace the couple of double features I own to have a consistent 4:3 movie collection, but I wouldn't care about aspect ratio consistency (in terms of all of the movies, since the Dragon Ball films were only released in 4:3 by FUNimation, and widescreen Z movies would take away that consistency), as long as I had the phenomenal Dragon Box versions of the films. I'll wait and see whether they release the movie boxes now that this tweet about a potential announcement has come to light.
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Re: Should I buy the Dragon Box Movie Singles?

Post by jpdbzrulz4sure » Mon May 23, 2011 12:00 am

SSJ2Engels wrote:Can somenone explain to me how the hell you mix a URL with a piece of your post in this forum?
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Just click "quote" and see for yourself how I did it. :)
SSJ2Engels wrote: Yeah, but my point was that that Toei may want to kept the extras for themselves. Like, something that is chacteristic of their, and only their, release.
There are plenty of other things Toei can keep exclusive to their Dragon Boxes. The Dragon Ball PSAs, the Plan To Eradicate The Saiyans visual guide, commercials...hell, they can keep the textless opening and ending animations for all I care. The TV specials, on the other hand, aren't supposed to be "extras". They're part of the series. Toei is borderline retarded if they didn't let FUNi have them.

EDIT: If we really don't get the specials, I'm gonna have to punish myself severely for not being able to buy the Japanese Dragon Boxes back in 2003. :P
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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Mon May 23, 2011 12:17 am

Brad Redfield wrote:I would hold off for now since Funimation was asked about the Dragon Box movie stuff yesterday at ACEN and:
DragonBox Movies release information would come around the end of the releases...no details yet

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Post by Krycek7o2 » Mon May 23, 2011 12:17 am

jpdbzrulz4sure wrote:
SSJ2Engels wrote:Can somenone explain to me how the hell you mix a URL with a piece of your post in this forum?
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Just click "quote" and see for yourself how I did it. :)
SSJ2Engels wrote: Yeah, but my point was that that Toei may want to kept the extras for themselves. Like, something that is chacteristic of their, and only their, release.
There are plenty of other things Toei can keep exclusive to their Dragon Boxes. The Dragon Ball PSAs, the Plan To Eradicate The Saiyans visual guide, commercials...hell, they can keep the textless opening and ending animations for all I care. The TV specials, on the other hand, aren't supposed to be "extras". They're part of the series. Toei is borderline retarded if they didn't let FUNi have them.
I wouldn't call them retarded, but geniuses since FUNi now has to pony* (get it, HA HA!) up more money for the TV Specials.

*Pony Canyon was the DVD manufacturer for the original Dragon Boxes, but not the movies.

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Re: Should I buy the Dragon Box Movie Singles?

Post by Ashura » Mon May 23, 2011 2:13 am

Makaioshin wrote:If I recall correctly, they announced that they acquired the footage for the Z episodes and films. They didn't say they had Dragon Box: The Movies, just that they had the Z films.
Ahhh.

Well, I think you guys should wait for official word before pulling out your jump to conclusions mat. It might be a generalization, who knows.
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Post by Kingdom Heartless » Mon May 23, 2011 2:20 am

Well, this seems very promising... I'll try to not get my hopes up in case this doesn't pan out.
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Post by TripleRach » Mon May 23, 2011 3:38 am

SSJ2Engels wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:That really wouldn't make any sense to me. Funimation buying the extras from them and then including them on our Dragon Boxes would result in more saled and therefore more money to Toei in return. If they really want to milk DBZGT and make more easy money off it like they tried to do with Kai, they shouldn't hold back on the extras that the fans want.
Yeah, but my point was that that Toei may want to kept the extras for themselves. Like, something that is chacteristic of their, and only their, release. So anyone who wanted/want the extras had to buy the Japaneses Boxes. If that isn't the case, then why they didn't release the extras in the single series? If you can think of an explanation, please spit it out to me. :D
IIRC, Spain released the TV specials from the Dragon Box masters. So Toei was clearly willing to license them out at one point. And it should be noted that FUNimation has been including the Dragon Books, so they obviously haven't been barred from all the Japanese extras.
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Re: Should I buy the Dragon Box Movie Singles?

Post by Kendamu » Mon May 23, 2011 5:02 am

Ashura wrote:
Makaioshin wrote:If I recall correctly, they announced that they acquired the footage for the Z episodes and films. They didn't say they had Dragon Box: The Movies, just that they had the Z films.
Ahhh.

Well, I think you guys should wait for official word before pulling out your jump to conclusions mat. It might be a generalization, who knows.
The initial announcement said that they acquired 291 episodes and 13 movies.

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Post by The Time Traveller » Mon May 23, 2011 6:20 am

I've been hoping for a six disc boxset the same size as the other 7 Dragon Boxes, that would be awesome... I'm sure if they do Dragon Ball Dragon Boxes we could probably get a two or three disc set for those movies. :D

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Post by Kendamu » Mon May 23, 2011 7:33 am

The Time Traveller wrote:I've been hoping for a six disc boxset the same size as the other 7 Dragon Boxes, that would be awesome... I'm sure if they do Dragon Ball Dragon Boxes we could probably get a two or three disc set for those movies. :D
I'm hoping that they'll follow suit with how they've done their other boxes so far and mimic DBox the Movies. Of course, minus discs #1 and #8.

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Post by GotenDaisuki » Mon May 23, 2011 10:11 am

Kendamu wrote:The initial announcement said that they acquired 291 episodes and 13 movies.
The point that bothers me is why Toei didn't and still doesn't want to grant FUNimation access to more than just the Z episodes and movies, while they gave Spain access to the TV Specials. I know they were reluctant to give anyone Dragon Box footage anyway, but exactly why they don't want to give FUNimation certain aspects of the Dragon Box is beyond me. And, what others say is true. The TV Specials are not extras. They aired in syndication with the television series. So, in a way, they are part of the television series. I understand that they would want to keep the OVA and other extras for themselves, but I find it rather peculiar on Toei's part that they would willingly give someone else the rights for something FUNimation is likely never to get.
So mondo lame.

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Re: Should I buy the Dragon Box Movie Singles?

Post by SSJSteve » Mon May 23, 2011 10:58 am

I really hope they release it as one box. It doesn't need to be split up.

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