What's the story with Gohan/Bulma/Frieza's VA's replacements

[TheBlackPaladin]

Sadly there's usually little money in the anime dubbing business for VAs. Now, regular American cartoons? That's where the real money is. (especially Simpsons which is the king of highly-paid VAs)

I'd say Simpsons is the rare exception because it's, well, The Simpsons, and they've been doing those voices for twenty years, have renegotiated their contracts many times, and have plenty of clout to do so. Other than that, I wouldn't consider American cartoon voicework to be that lucrative, unless you happen to be a pretty big name like Billy West or Frank Welker.

NAILED IT.

American cartoons do pay a lot more (despite not being nearly as difficult to do), but still not a ton. The most lucrative cartoon voice actors are cartoon voice actors who do major-league cartoons that get residuals. The Simpsons would definitely fall under that category. So would Family Guy. But it has to be a major-league cartoon. Even then, they're still not rolling in dough....but they're making enough to live solely off of acting, which is something most actors only dream of.

[Kirbopher]

I'm gonna stick to: everything in this thread is mistaken prettymuch with the exception of what TheBlackPaladin was implying.

[GS7X7]

The big-leaguers definitely roll in the dough. I think Seth Green once bragged in a Robot Chicken sketch that he earns like $250,000 a year or something playing the fat dumb kid on Family Guy. So.... luck out with a really popular cartoon show and you can be set as a VA.

[Ultimate_DB_Fan]

All that's important is that in all three cases, the new VAs are exponentially better in the roles than the previous ones.

Says who, you? Don't think so.

It's not of import as to why those three were recasted. Kai, overall, has proven to be nothing more than a mess, both in music and excecution. Say what you will about how awesome it is that the filler's cut, but that still doesn't take away the fact that the Buu saga ain't being done. If I wanted to skip filler, I'd look in my season sets' booklets to see what episode(s) I'd want to skip over to.

There are still those of us in our own camp who never cared for those replacements in the first place. They can be declared "talented" as many times as possible, but that's not making me all of a sudden jump ship and join the bandwagon of supporters.

The new Bulma sounds like a high-pitched ditz, gohan's VA trys too hard to sound like a boy, and Ayres
certainly isn't music to my ears. His best work was in that Devil May Cry 12-episode anime series from a few years ago.

[Dark Vegeta-Sama]

The new Bulma sounds like a high-pitched ditz, gohan's VA trys too hard to sound like a boy

You just described Tiffany Vollmer and Stephanie Nadolny's performances in DBZ.

and Ayres certainly isn't music to my ears

As opposed to Linda Young's Freeza, which was music to nobody's ears.

[GS7X7]

How much money did "the Don" make anyway? (I remember Hebert once said he wanted to be the next Don)

[Attitudefan]

How much money did "the Don" make anyway? (I remember Hebert once said he wanted to be the next Don)

Am I missing something... who's "the Don"?

Sabat?


Anyways, it's a shame that Young might have been crying, I mean, you replacd a person's role that they played for nearly ten years! It wasn't the most fitting, no. That isn't fair or just either, if anything maybe give them another role in the show?

[GS7X7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_LaFontaine

My nickname for the guy.

[Attitudefan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_LaFontaine

My nickname for the guy.

OHHH that guy! The famous trailer voice guy. Yeah, I heard when he died and was disappointed about that. That guy was a successful VA if there was one!

Herb said he was paid second to him

[Ketchup_Revenge]

I heard somewhere that Stephanie Nadolny went back to touring with her band.

[GS7X7]

I remember Meredith McCoy was once a part of that band. (I think Steph invited her into it? It's been ages)

[ohaimynameiserik]

Says who, you? Don't think so.

It's not of import as to why those three were recasted. Kai, overall, has proven to be nothing more than a mess, both in music and excecution. Say what you will about how awesome it is that the filler's cut, but that still doesn't take away the fact that the Buu saga ain't being done. If I wanted to skip filler, I'd look in my season sets' booklets to see what episode(s) I'd want to skip over to.

There are still those of us in our own camp who never cared for those replacements in the first place. They can be declared "talented" as many times as possible, but that's not making me all of a sudden jump ship and join the bandwagon of supporters.

The new Bulma sounds like a high-pitched ditz, gohan's VA trys too hard to sound like a boy, and Ayres
certainly isn't music to my ears. His best work was in that Devil May Cry 12-episode anime series from a few years ago.

I say so, as well.

So do plenty of people who have much better execution in providing their well thought out opinion, rather than your obvious trolling.

[jjgp1112]

Get over yourself, already.

[VegettoEX]

Get over yourself, already.

Who are you talking so rudely to?

And would you all please stop? If you're unable to articulate why it is you think something is "good" or "bad" or "better" or "worse", you're likely off better not even contributing in the first place, since it probably ain't worth reading.

[XanatosVanBadass]

I say so, as well.

So do plenty of people who have much better execution in providing their well thought out opinion, rather than your obvious trolling.

This. I can't fathom how anyone can say that Gohan's new voice is trying too hard to sound like a boy when that is literally precisely what his voice had been like for years. Colleen sounds natural and NOT like Gohan's a chain smoker. By virtually any merits, the new voices are objectively superior for their respective roles. Frankly, anyone who says otherwise is simply blinded by nostalgia IMHO.

[jjgp1112]

I say so, as well.

So do plenty of people who have much better execution in providing their well thought out opinion, rather than your obvious trolling.

This. I can't fathom how anyone can say that Gohan's new voice is trying too hard to sound like a boy when that is literally precisely what his voice had been like for years. Colleen sounds natural and NOT like Gohan's a chain smoker. By virtually any merits, the new voices are objectively superior for their respective roles. Frankly, anyone who says otherwise is simply blinded by nostalgia IMHO.

I don't understand this mentality at all.

[GS7X7]

Different strokes, different folks. Some people are just going to like different voices better, it's like saying that people who prefer chocolate ice cream over vanilla are being dumb.

[VegettoEX]

I don't understand this mentality at all.

Of course not. You're one of the people holding on to the past with your heart on your sleeve and I've never seen you even attempt to put the slightest bother toward evaluating the new voices beyond sarcastic comments. You make no effort what-so-ever.

I'd love to see someone with actual acting experience precisely explain why the re-casts were for the best, because I can only do it in vague terms with comparisons to the underlying characters that I know from the manga and actual original version of the series. Like many, what I can fall back on mostly involves phrases like "forced" and "laughable" and "completely missing the point of the character that they never bothered to research until Kai came along and gave them a chance to and I am incredibly happy for fans of the dub".

[Cacarot]

To throw my own two cents here (as a fan of the original English dub) into the voice actor replacements and my opinions of them. Chris Ayres's Frieza is leagues beyond Linda's and though her replacement may have been handled incorrectly it is easy to understand why it was done. Though I had no issue with Bulma's old voice I will admit that her new voice actress fits her character better. However, I am not a fan of Gohan's new voice. Though you can counter by saying that the new voice fits the profile of a little kid more so than the other old voice, this new voice is frankly annoying. The old voice did have a little rasp to it but it never struck me as a voice unsuited to a little child and it definitely was suited to the enraged SSJ2 Gohan. However, I have grown to tolerate the new Gohan voice through watching Kai. Anyway this is just my opinion and I recognize that voices for the most part are just a matter of opinion.

[VegettoEX]

Though you can counter by saying that the new voice fits the profile of a little kid more so than the other old voice, this new voice is frankly annoying.

And I'm really glad you acknowledge that counter because, yeah... Gohan's whole point for a lot of the early stuff is that he is annoying. He's a whining little cry-baby son of a bitch. That's Gohan. That's the Gohan the rest of us all knew from Masako Nozawa's performance, and even just from reading the manga. Yep, that's Gohan!

It's not as close to "this is not the character" as it was with Freeza, but it was certainly up there with Gohan. The instant that voice shift happened in 1999, I never once again heard "Gohan" with an English voice up until the dub of Kai.