Gohan's age when he fought Cell

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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by Kaboom » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:47 pm

Well, he could be chronologically 16, even if the Room of Spirit and Time session made him physically 17.
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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by p123 » Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:21 pm

Yea, Gohan in the world is going to be considered 16. Similar to how Goku will still be considered 40 or whatever even though he spent 7 years in the afterlife and didn't age.

So that's at least reasonable.

Gohan is 16, according to his birthday, and just happens to be 17 physically. Works out just fine.

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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by Super Sonic » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:05 pm

The 11 in the anime worked with the dub aging him up a year as well:

5- Raditz appears
6- Saiyans show up and Frieza saga
7- Trunks beats Frieza
10- Androids appear
11- After ROSAT

If anyone was wondering why they aged him up back then, Saban as well as some censors had/have issues about young children being in peril. I think something similar happened a few years later with the early Digi-kids being a year older in the dub than they were in Japan. (Don't remember if the Tamers or Frontier kids went through the same thing).

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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by Herms » Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:47 am

Super Sonic wrote:(Don't remember if the Tamers or Frontier kids went through the same thing).
The Tamers cast were changed from being 10 years old to 13 years for the English dub.
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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by kaialone » Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:30 am

Herms wrote:
Super Sonic wrote:(Don't remember if the Tamers or Frontier kids went through the same thing).
The Tamers cast were changed from being 10 years old to 13 years for the English dub.
Wich is kinda unsettling since that would mean Rika´s mom had her at 15, unless they aged her up ,too
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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by p123 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:12 am

Which is a bit silly if you think about it. Whether Gohan was 4 or 5 he's still a kid. It's just stupidity really.

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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by Herms » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:19 pm

Alright, so I checked out the anime to confirm that a] the episode 171 birthday filler does flat-out say Gohan has turned 11 in the Room of Spirit and Time, and b] episodes 118 and 119 say that it's been one year since Goku defeated Freeza, instead of one year since all the Namekians left Earth (which happened 260 days after Freeza's defeat) like in the manga. Kind of funny, because Gohan turning 11 in the Room of Spirit and Time only really works with the manga's setup of almost two years passing between the fight with Freeza and Trunks' arrival. I wonder if this was an intentional change or they just forgot all the time that passed between Freeza getting defeated and the Namekians leaving Earth.
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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by p123 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:29 pm

I think it's a good idea to accept anime filler as long as it's reasonable. But everyone is subject to human error.

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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:39 pm

Herms wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:BTW, I'm pretty sure that its implied (maybe stated?) Gohan was still home-schooled before attending Orange Star High.
Yeah, during the first Boo era chapter the narrator says there aren't any schools out in the sticks where Gohan lives, so up until then he'd just studied on his own and taken correspondence courses.
Apart from the cram school or nursery or whatever that Chi-Chi mentioned Gohan had missed when she was driving to Kame House to pick up Gohan. That was in the Saiyan arc.
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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by Shiyonasan » Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:13 pm

Slightly unrelated, but if you take into account Episode 171 as being what actually happened in the canon, Gohan's birthday would be either May 16 or May 17, since he turned 11 during his time in the RoSaT. I thought that was kind of interesting since Gohan's birthday is never specified (that is, what day in May his birthday is exactly).

On topic though, Gohan would be 11 physically, manga or anime, because of the timeline many of you on here have already posted. Chronologically though, he would be 10.

However, Gohan being 16 during the Buu arc would only make sense if you disregard his time in the RoSaT, or in other words, if you consider his chronological age to be his true age. Even though seven years are said to have passed between the end of the Cell Games and the beginning of the Buu arc, in truth, the seven year anniversary is technically a couple months away at the beginning of the Buu arc. May 26th, 767 is the end of the Cell arc, and March 28th, 774 is the beginning of the Buu arc. Since Gohan's birthday in May hasn't happened yet at the beginning of the Buu arc, he would actually chronologically be 16.

Plus, if his birthday is in fact May 16th or May 17th as stated in my first paragraph, then he would be 16 throughout the entire Buu arc, minus the day the people of Earth get their memories of Buu wiped clean (which he would be 17 chronologically on that day).

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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by Vhanos » Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:46 pm

Did that birthday episode specify how old Gohan turned?

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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by dbgtFO » Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:16 am

Vhanos wrote:Did that birthday episode specify how old Gohan turned?
Herms, 4 posts above yours, wrote:Alright, so I checked out the anime to confirm that a] the episode 171 birthday filler does flat-out say Gohan has turned 11 in the Room of Spirit and Time[...]

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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by Fox666 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:12 am

Herms wrote:Alright, so I checked out the anime to confirm that a] the episode 171 birthday filler does flat-out say Gohan has turned 11 in the Room of Spirit and Time, and b] episodes 118 and 119 say that it's been one year since Goku defeated Freeza, instead of one year since all the Namekians left Earth (which happened 260 days after Freeza's defeat) like in the manga. Kind of funny, because Gohan turning 11 in the Room of Spirit and Time only really works with the manga's setup of almost two years passing between the fight with Freeza and Trunks' arrival. I wonder if this was an intentional change or they just forgot all the time that passed between Freeza getting defeated and the Namekians leaving Earth.
Is it possible the guidebooks adapted the time-line to that filler?

Or at least everything appear to make sense if you use only the manga:
- Raditz appear: 4 (stated by the narrator)
- Vegeta and Nappa appear: 5 (1 year time-skip)
- Trunks appear: 6 (1 year time-skip)
- Androids appear: 8 and half (2 and a half year time-skip)
- RoSaT training: 9 and half (1 year training)
- Buu saga: 16 and half (7 years time-skip and stated by the narrator)

Or you could take this half passed year as his birthday and discounting the RoSaT time from his cronological age in the Buu saga. Either ways it works, but this 11 years old is really unfitable.

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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by jjgp1112 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:18 am

I think what Chi-Chi meant was not that his birthday was on the day he was in the chamber, but just that while he was spending a year (in his time) in it, his birthday passed at some point.
Fox666 wrote:Is it possible the guidebooks adapted the time-line to that filler?

Or at least everything appear to make sense if you use only the manga:
- Raditz appear: 4 (stated by the narrator)
- Vegeta and Nappa appear: 5 (1 year time-skip)
- Trunks appear: 6 (1 year time-skip)
- Androids appear: 8 and half (2 and a half year time-skip)
- RoSaT training: 9 and half (1 year training)
- Buu saga: 16 and half (7 years time-skip and stated by the narrator)

Or you could take this half passed year as his birthday and discounting the RoSaT time from his cronological age in the Buu saga. Either ways it works, but this 11 years old is really unfitable.
Trunks happened after nearly two years, though. First, there were the 260 days they were wishing people back, and my memory is probably hazy on this one, but Goku was gone for an additional year afterwards, too. So there's at least a 625 day time skip in between the Frieza and Trunks sagas, or 1.7 years.
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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by Fox666 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:28 am

No, it was said that Freeza and Cold appeared one years passed since Freeza was defeated, thus it was 3 months and a few days since the namekians left.

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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by jjgp1112 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:41 am

I don't remember them specifying that. It just said, "One year has passed" and didn't go any further than that. It could mean anything from the remaining 2.5 months to a whole year after those 260 days.
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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by Bussani » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:42 am

Fox666 wrote:No, it was said that Freeza and Cold appeared one years passed since Freeza was defeated, thus it was 3 months and a few days since the namekians left.
Like Herms said, the anime said that. The manga apparently says that one year passes since the Namekians' departure. That said, Viz's translation could probably be taken either way, and I don't know how it's worded in Japanese.
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Re: Gohan's age when he fought Cell

Post by Fox666 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:51 am

Yeah, you are right. Probably these 2 and a half year time-skip was precisely to fill these 260 years, making it around 3 years in the total.

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