The History of Ever

Discussion, generally of an in-universe nature, regarding any aspect of the franchise (including movies, spin-offs, etc.) such as: techniques, character relationships, internal back-history, its universe, and more.
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Re: The History of Ever

Post by Herms » Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:39 pm

I've added a search system like the Strength Checker now, so hopefully that'll make it easier to navigate. Details in the first post.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I do commend you for chucking it out so quickly, if your tweet the other day was when you really started.
That tweet was probably about when I was halfway through putting it together. And of course, most of it had already been written for the Kanzentai Timeline Guide.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Yeah, I think he made a little error there.
Goku was born in AGE 737. So, in AGE 801, he would be 64, physically 57. (~8 years dead, ~1 year in RoSat in 2 trips)
Vegeta was born in AGE 732. So in AGE 801, he would be 69, physically 71. (~3 days dead, ~2 years in RoSaT in 2 trips)
Whoops, fixed now. Thanks.
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Re: The History of Ever

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:14 pm

You know, I'm sorry I didn't catch this the first time I posted the list of DBO info not on the official timeline.
Herms wrote:AGE 779
--DBO: Lunch makes the news somehow.
[Ref: A news item from this year featuring her is briefly glimpsed in a history book shown in one of the DBO trailers.]
This is for her successfully breaking out of jail 100 times.
Herms wrote:AGE 900 (#900)
--DBO: On Earth, the people of Planet Yardrat are possibly put in charge of developing a time machine.
[Ref: Early English info on the game said something about this, but it’s not mentioned in the DBO timeline.]
It wasn't the time machines they were put in charge of, its the Shunkan-ido Machines that allow the player to teleport across the map from one machine to another, or to store items.
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Re: The History of Ever

Post by FindKenshi » Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:12 am

Woah. I thought
Ref: In the first issue of Viz’s Shonen Jump, released in January 2003, Toriyama says of Freeza’s species that “there aren't many of them, but perhaps they are a new hybrid species that came into existence from an accidental spontaneous mutation in our grandfathers' time.”
was fake from Super Otaku Magazine. It's actually from Viz's Shonen Jump?
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Re: The History of Ever

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:38 am

Nope, that's real.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The History of Ever

Post by FindKenshi » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:34 pm

Cool. The first place I ever saw that quote about Freeza and being a mutation from our "grandfather's time" was in the Super Otaku Magazine interview posted at GameFAQs in the time leading up to the release of the first Tenkaichi (Sparking) game. So I'm guessing a bit of "real" stuff was mixed in with the fake stuff. Thanks for clearing it up.
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Re: The History of Ever

Post by Herms » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:51 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:It wasn't the time machines they were put in charge of, its the Shunkan-ido Machines that allow the player to teleport across the map from one machine to another, or to store items.
Aha, thanks. Changed now. Is there anything else about DBO you think should be included?
FindKenshi wrote:Cool. The first place I ever saw that quote about Freeza and being a mutation from our "grandfather's time" was in the Super Otaku Magazine interview posted at GameFAQs in the time leading up to the release of the first Tenkaichi (Sparking) game. So I'm guessing a bit of "real" stuff was mixed in with the fake stuff. Thanks for clearing it up.
Yeah, there's definitely been some fake interviews that mix real interview questions with made-up ones to appear more legitimate.
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Re: The History of Ever

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:31 pm

Herms wrote:Aha, thanks. Changed now. Is there anything else about DBO you think should be included?
Hm...well, I think we covered all the back history. If there is anything else, it has to be mentioned somewhere obscure in-game, and that's just like reading chicken scratch to most people. The game does have a couple methods of story telling for the important plot points though; Time Leaps, Time Machine Quests, and Ultimate Dungeons. You've already covered the first two, so that only leaves you the latter.

I've played through a couple of them in the game, but I'm not sure how much help I'd be at giving you summaries for them. There aren't any cutscenes or anything to help tell the intended narrative, I guess because the current era isn't suppose to be scripted and you can shape your own future? Something like that I guess. So without translations, all that can be done is guess work. Its sort of a shame though, because its the Ultimate Dungeons that feature a lot of the new stuff featured on the timeline, like the black Namekian Naraka, Paella's gang, Cyborg Tao Pai Pai, Gero's Jinzoningens, etc.

I'll see what I can dig up though if you want...
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Re: The History of Ever

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:58 pm

How many are the Ultimate Dungeons? What do they feature? I'm not sure I've seen all of them, I remember the Tao Pai Pai X one, the Commander Red/Artificial Human #9, the Dr. Gero, the Pilaf/Shu/Mai statue, and the new one with the Mazoku Namekians.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The History of Ever

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:17 pm

I only know what four of them contain, but there should be 6 as of right now.
UD1 - Giran-a-like, Tao's Student?, Cyborg Tao Pai Pai
UD2 - Buyon-a-like, #1900, #20
UD3 - Transforming Freeza Remnant (Pilaf, Shu, Mai statues), #16, a Majin child on a giant robot dog?
UD6 - Bunch of Namekians, "Evil Karin", Naraka

The one with Red/#9 is just a standard dungeon (the ones that typically have no real plot). He's just walking around the remains of the RRA base.

I honestly don't want to attempt to summarize these dungeons. lol I have no idea what their official explanations for why some of these characters are grouped with the others, or why some of them are alive again or have had another version rebuilt.
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Re: The History of Ever

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:47 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I only know what four of them contain, but there should be 6 as of right now.
UD1 - Giran-a-like, Tao's Student?, Cyborg Tao Pai Pai
UD2 - Buyon-a-like, #1900, #20
UD3 - Transforming Freeza Remnant (Pilaf, Shu, Mai statues), #16, a Majin child on a giant robot dog?
UD6 - Bunch of Namekians, "Evil Karin", Naraka

The one with Red/#9 is just a standard dungeon (the ones that typically have no real plot). He's just walking around the remains of the RRA base.

I honestly don't want to attempt to summarize these dungeons. lol I have no idea what their official explanations for why some of these characters are grouped with the others, or why some of them are alive again or have had another version rebuilt.
So you seem to know as much as I know on those... I'll do some research then.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The History of Ever

Post by hleV » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:35 pm

TMQs in DBO are always the same, aren't they? Some info covering what actually happens during TMQs' cutscenes would be nice. I'm confident that the mentioned cutscenes are available on YT.

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Re: The History of Ever

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:45 pm

Here is the info I sent Herms. Excuse the horrible grammar and everything, I was in a rush to get it to him so he could finish the guide.
Time Leaps wrote:AGE 1000
Rifts begin to appear as the Time Breakers begin to unravel time, causing children get sucked into the past. (This'll happen to the “Player” four times, including the opening.)

Opening: November 28th, AGE 761 (Immediately after Raditz kidnaps Gohan and everyone gives chase)
“Player” appears at Kame House and meets Umigame, who reveals everyone left to follow a “Saiyan”. The Time Breakers arrive in search of Goku, presumably after his DNA. With Goku gone, they settle for trying to capture Umigame and the “Player”. Before they can accomplish their goal, Trunks steps in. The remnants of Freeza’s army recognize him as a member of the Time Patrol and decide to get rid of him for Miira. Trunks dispatches of them with a “Burning Attack” (Same move he used on Mecha Freeza). GBT…Hope arrives with the time machine and Trunks returns “Player” to AGE 1000.

Time Leap 1: June~August, AGE 737 (Immediately before Goku arrives on Earth)
"Player" arrives near Son Gohan's house. After a short walk to his house, "Player" meets him. Gohan notices the "Player" looks like a martial arts and the two spar in order to test the child's skills. Afterwards, a ball of fire comes streaking across the sky and crashes in the forest nearby. Gohan and "Player" run to investigate, finding a crater with a pod inside. "Player" grabs baby Goku from the ship and takes him to Gohan. After a short talk, "player" carries Goku back to Gohan's house for him. Trunks takes you back through the rift to AGE 1000.

Time Leap 2: September 9th, AGE 749 (Before Goku and the gang meet Gyuumao)
"Player arrives at the village at the base of Mt. Fry-Pan. Gyuumao attacks and then apologizes for thinking you were after his treasure. Goku arrives on Kinto-un and Gyuumao asks both you and him to go find his daughter, who went to find Kame'sennin. You head out from the village and find Chi Chi before Yamcha can make it back to her. She's still on the ground, about to be eaten by another dinosaur. "Player" defeats the creature and then must fight her after she wakes up and thinks you’re a pervert. Goku arrives and explains everything to Chi Chi, taking her to find Roshi. "Player" returns to Gyuumao and receives his thanks for finding his daughter and fr telling him that they went to find his master. Trunks takes you back through the rift to AGE 1000.

Time Leap 3: May 7th, AGE 756 (Before the prelims of the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai)
"Player" arrives on Papaya Island at the Budokai grounds. As "Player" wanders around, two martial artist walk up and begin to give you a hard time. Chi Chi steps in to help, and the two of you fight off the bullies. "Player" thanks Chi Chi for her help. She asks if he has seen a man named Son Goku around, and shows off a cute drawing from the last time she saw the boy. "Player" says no, but agrees to help her look and goes off to ask other people if they've seen him. "Player" runs into Oolong transformed as Goku and takes him to Chi Chi, but the pig isn't able to hold the transformation. Oolong tells them that Goku is in the prelim building, and the two run off to find him. Upon their reunion, Goku doesn't recognize Chi Chi, which makes her mad and causes her to storm off. "Player" follows her and Trunks takes you back through the rift to AGE 1000.
Time Machine Quests wrote:AGE 1000
Trunks decides to stop the Time Breakers from distorting history as we know it. He's determined that the "Player" and up to 4 other friends are trustworthy enough to help out the Time Patrol in their mission.

Time Machine Quest 1: November 28th, AGE 761 (Raditz arrives on Earth)
The Time Patrol arrives in the past and is ambushed by the Time Breakers. Raditz lands and kills the farmer before heading off to search for Kakarotto.
The Time Patrol makes their way towards the site where Radtiz landed and spot more Time Breakers. Trunks has you give chase until you find Freeza's remnants setting up a bomb in the middle of the Farmer's town to draw your attention. You fight off the enemies until you are able to disable the explosive. Trunks spots what looks to be their leader, Jinzoningen 8000 MX, who attempts to escape to their current hideout. Your group continues to chase them a little ways until you end up at a frozen lake surrounded by mountains. The Time Patrol defeats the rest of the Time Breakers here, as well as 8000 MX, before they can reach the proper entrance. Before Trunks is able to get everyone out of there, Raditz arrives after picking up the high battle powers on his scouter, though he leaves when he realizes you aren't his brother. Trunks packs everyone on the time machine and returns to AGE 1000.

Time Machine Quest 2: November 28th, AGE 761 (Raditz kidnaps Gohan)
The Time Patrol arrives in the past on an island, and must swim to Kame House. Goku and Piccolo took off in an attempt to follow Raditz, but it seems the Time Breakers have developed a jamming device to disrupt the signal the Dragon Radar uses, so they return to Kame House. The Time Breakers take this chance to attack and the Time Patrol helps the heroes defeat them. Afterward, Goku and Piccolo take to the sky once again while the Time Patrol uses a submarine to travel to that familiar, nearby Pirate Cave in order to destroy the jamming devices, which are being guarded by Jinzoningen 8000 and other Breakers. Once they are defeated, Trunks has everyone get into the sub at the pirate's dock instead of trekking back through the cave. The submarine pops up through the ice at the frozen lake from the last mission and the group returns to the site where Radtiz landed. They help to stall Raditz while Piccolo charges his Makankosappo, and Goku returns to his feet to hold his brother in the path the Namekian's attack. Job finished, the Time Patrol return to AGE 1000.

Time Machine Quest 3: November 28th, AGE 761 (Piccolo training Gohan)
The Time Patrol arrive in the past near to the area that will soon become Gohan's training grounds. The masked man (Bardock) has the Time Breakers set up cannons to shoot Piccolo out of the sky, and then goes off to work on other plans. The Time Patrol destroys the forces and devices to clear the way for Piccolo. The Namekian arrives safely and tells Gohan about his hidden power and then leaves him to survive in the wilderness. When their original plan fails, the Time Breakers resorted to brainwashing the local wildlife for extra help, forcing you to defeat a group of the T-Rex like dinos before they devour Gohan. One manages to make it to Gohan, who becomes enraged and puts too much power into his jump as he avoids the dinosaur, resulting in him landing on top the giant plateau. Jinzoningen 8000 and 8000 MX arrive with a large group of Time Breakers ti stop you from interfering with their plans...they fail. Trunks calls everyone to the time machine and they jump ahead to Gohan going Oozaru

Masked Man puts the finishing touches on the brainwashing device. The Time Patrol arrives as Gohan transforms into an Oozaru. The Masked Man sends his device to brainwash the giant monkey and the Time Patrol rushes to stop him. The Masked Man steps in to prevent them from stopping the brainwashing process, and by the time the Time Patrol finally gets him on the defensive, he retreats because Gohan now under his control, leaving the heroes to fight off the Oozaru while they destroy the machine. Piccolo arrives right after Gohan is freed, though the monkey still fires off a mouth blast at his new teacher. Piccolo then destroys the moon to revert Gohan back to normal and prevent Nappa and Vegeta from transforming when they arrive. Situation returned to normal, Trunks has everyone return to the time machine and the AGE 1000.

Time Machine Quest 4: November 3, AGE 762 (Nappa kills Piccolo)
The Time Patrol arrives in the past and rushes to the battlefield to help stall Nappa from killing Gohan and Kuririn before Goku arrives. The Time Patrol manage to defeat Nappa and Vegeta goes to make a move, but Goku arrives and draws his attention. The two head off for a new location to hold their battle. The Time Patrol attempts to follow them, but runs into a Time Breaker XXXXXX and must destroy the 6 generators that power it. Elsewhere, Goku is using the Kaio-ken to drive Vegeta into a corner. They manage to destory the final generator as Goku sends Vegeta into the air with his Kaio-ken x4 Kamehameha. Vegeta returns and tosses his Power Ball to trigger his Oozaru transformation. This prompts Gohan and Kuririn to return to the battlefield, but they are attack by Time Breakers. The Time Patrol saves them and help attack Vegeta in order to distract him from Yajirobe, who cuts off his tail.m After he returns to normal, everyone continues to beat him up while Kuririn is given the energy for the Genki Dama from Goku. Vegeta is sent soaring into the air, again. Every heads back to the time machine, Trunks a fair distance ahead of the others, but the Masked Man arrives and attacks everyone else. The heroes end up breaking his mask and causing him to retreat as it starts to rain. Trunks arrives at the time machine and is caught off guard by a blast from the Pale Man, Miira. Trunks collapses and Miira goes in to finish him off as the rest of the Time Patrol arrive. They attempt to fend him off, but can't match his power. He prepares a blast to finish everyone off, but Bardock arrives, maskless, and grabs him in a full-nelson by surprise. Miira is surprised the mask wore off, and Bardock thanks him for saving him from Freeza, but says he'll act on his own free will. Miira notes Bardock is attempting to use a self-destruct, but that it won't work. Bardock tells him that he'll use the life that he was given to take Miira out, and bids farewell to Kakarotto once more. The area where they were floating explodes. Everyone gets Trunks on board the time machine and they return to AGE 1000...Miira is shown alive when the smoke finally clears.

Epilogue (TMQ4 was the last one during the original release):
Trunks and the Time Patrol had defeated Miira and the Time Breakers. By doing so, they helped to return several timelines back to normal and it seemed history was preserved. But the shadow of the seed of darkness still remains in the cracks between the timelines. (Towa silhouette shown)

Time Machine Quest 5: December 18-19th, AGE 762 (Gohan, Bulma, Kuririn and Vegeta arrive on Namek)
Towa is watching as Gohan and Kuririn stay hidden from Freeza and his goons as he attempts to gain another Dragon Ball from Muri's village. The Time Patrol arrives on Namek shortly after everyone else. Sensing their arrival, Towa appears before the Time Patrol and briefly introduces herself. Trunks is upset that he could sense any signs of her ki. Towa realizes they are the ones who "defeated" Miira and tells them they don't need to know her plans, and she will stop them now before they can interrupt her later. She summons some more Time Breakers and has them stall the heroes while she goes to try and find someone to experiment on. By the time the soldiers are defeated, Towa has resurrected and enslaved Kyui, who was killed by Vegeta. She attempts to power him up by increasing his size and combat power, but despite his power growing, his body shrinks. Towa leaves Kyui to fight the Time Patrol, and Trunks gives chase, leaving the other members to fight the reanimated corpse. Elsewhere, Gohan and Kuririn save Dende from Freeza and end up with Dodoria chasing them. Vegeta interferes and ends up killing Dodoria, with Towa reviving his corpse as well. This time she increases the subjects power and size and has him attack the Time Patrol as a distraction while she slips into another timeline. After they defeat Dodoria, they follow her to the new timeline.

They arrive after Vegeta has been defeated by Zarbon and taken to Freeza's ship. Vegeta is fully healed and escapes with the 5 Dragon Balls that were in Freeza's possession. Trunks assumes Towa is after Vegeta, and plans to ambush him when he arrives at the location where he tossed the DBs. The Time Patrol arrives before Vegeta and wipes out the Time Breaker forces. Afterwards, they gather all the DBs Vegeta tossed into that single inlet for Vegeta to find, though they weren't scattered very far originally. Vegeta arrives without incident, and Trunks realizes that Towa must have really been after Zarbon, who will soon encounter Vegeta and alter the past if Towa makes him stronger. Vegeta goes after Kuririn's Dragon Ball and is then attacked by Zarbon, who Towa has made stronger and bigger as well. The Time Patrol arrive to help Vegeta to defeat him. Zarbon is backed into a corner and forced to transform, but when he does, he shrinks. Kuririn takes this chance to escape with his Dragon Ball, but Vegeta gives chase, leaving Zarbon to be dealth with my the Time Patrol alone. Towa is sad that her experiments aren't going as planned, and she disappears. The Time Patrol defeats Zarbon for good, and Vegeta gets the Dragon Ball from Kuririn. He then encounters Gohan, who stole the DB he hid in the lake when he first arrived, just as history is supposed to go. Trunks gathers everyone and returns them home.

Time Machine Quest 6: December 24th, AGE 761 (The Ginyu Special Squad arrives on Namek)
The Time Patrol arrives after the Ginyus. Trunks decides to track down Towa while everyone else takes out the other Time Breaker members/grunts. By the time they finish, Reacoom has already taken out Gohan, Kuririn and Vegeta thanks to Towa making him bigger and stronger. Butta notes the strength increase after he grew bigger and makes fun of him for being so silent since, and wondering if the girl who powered him up was his girlfriend. Towa continues to watch from the sky as the Time Patrol arrive to protect Vegeta. They manage to defeat Reacoom and free him from Towa's control, and Trunks arrives to confront the woman herself. She flirst with him, saying she knows she has her charms, but she doesn't have time to deal with a stalker. She then disappears. Trunks tells the rest of his group that Goku will arrive soon and they should leave everything else to him. He'll continue to chase Towa while they head to the coordinates he's provided them. Reacoom wakes up, only to get beaten by Goku, who then takes care of Butta and lets Jheese go get Ginyu.

Arriving at the coordinates Trunks provided, the Time Patrol members are told that Towa has ordered the Time Breakers to kill all the frogs in the region to prevent Goku from trapping Ginyu inside one when he attempts to control Vegeta. They defeat their enemies and protect the frogs, but receive bad news, as Trunks arrives and reveals that he has lost Towa. One of the downed Time Breakers raises his blaster/beam gun to get a shot in on Trunks before he dies, but Bardock arrives and smashes the gun upon landing. He tells Trunks that he's soft at finishing off his enemies and blasts the alien he's stepping on without even looking. Trunks is surprised, thinking the once Masked Man was supposed to be dead, but Bardock says there is no time for that as Towa's ultimate goal here is to brainwash Goku. Trunks says Goku is too pure to be brainwashed, but Bardock tells him that she's aiming for him while GInyu's soul is still inside. Bardock offers to go destroy the devices if the Time Patrol will go stall Goku-Ginyu from coming close to them. Trunks wonders why the guy is is helping them, and he starts to reveal that he is Goku's dad, but instead just says that he owes them one for breaking the mask. Elsewhere, Goku and Ginyu change bodies. The Time Patrol arrives to stall Goku-Ginyu and Jheese. The two eventuall realize the Time Patrol are just dodging their attacks and head off to Freeza ship in order to stop wasting time. The next part plays out like in the show, with Vegeta killing Jheese, Ginyu-Goku arriving and changing their bodies back, and then Goku throwing the frog that traps Ginyu. Towa is mad that the Time Patrol prevented her from brainwashing Goku and decided to attack everyone with a gigantic Ginyu-Frog. Once it is defeated, she seems happy, that finally one of her experiments was stable in size and power. She deduces that the creatures of Namek yield good results and thinks that there might be some Namekians still alive to experiment on...next time. She disappears, and Trunks gathers everyone back in the time machine to go home.

Time Machine Quest 7: December 24th, AGE 761 (Freeza defeats Nail)
Continuing to use Namek as her testing grounds, Towa watches as Nail faces off against Freeza in a futile battle. The Warrior Namekian attempts to buy time for Dende and the Earthlings, and manages to succeed, but he pays the price by being left at death’s door. Before Freeza can deliver the final blow, Nail enjoys letting Freeza know that he’s been duped. The tyrant rages and flies back to his ship at full speed, determined to protect the Dragon Balls he worked so hard to gather. The battle over, Towa makes her way over to the battered Nail and channels some of his remaining ki into a mysterious bottle without a word, and then disappears as quickly as she came. Determined to stop the Time Breakers, the Time Patrol arrives back on Namek. Trunks takes off after Towa, while the others enter Freeza’s Spaceship in order to protect the injured Goku from Towa's goons.

In the meantime, Gohan, Kuririn and Dende attempt to summon Porunga. They manage to wish Piccolo back to life and to planet Namek, but Vegeta shows up before they can make their third wish. Vegeta tries to pressure them for his immortality, but the Eldest dies before it can be granted. On the other side of the planet, Piccolo finds Nail and the two merge into a single body. Vegeta begins to rage, but is forced to deal with it when Freeza arrives and is filled with rage. The battle begins and Vegeta coaxes Freeza to transform, but the power increase is greater than he expected. Kuririn manages to cut off Freeza’s tail, but that only infuriates the alien even more. A nearby Towa takes Freeza’s severed tail, thinking how exciting it will be to experiment with, and then disappears once again. Lucky for everyone, a new and improved Piccolo arrives to battle Freeza, but is quickly tossed aside as the tyrant transforms again.

Back at Freeza’s ship, with most of the remnant soldiers defeated, the survivors attempt to escape with their lives. The player gives chase until they are able to corner the cowards. Towa arrives with Freeza’s tail. The woman takes out the bottle that contains Nail’s ki, and as her hand begins to glow, pours it over the severed appendage. She tosses it to the soldiers and tells them that by eating Freeza’s tail, they can gain immense power, the likes they could never imagine. Desperate to survive, a soldier begins eating the tail, and begin to grow in both size and power. The Time Patrol fights all of them and eventually over powers them, much to Towa’s displeasure. The woman disappears as quickly as she appeared, mentioning something about Goku…

Freeza, not wanting to take any chances, transforms into his final and true form. Dende heals the injured Piccolo and Vegeta, but the Saiyan is the one to step up and challenge the tyrant. The two battle briefly while Freeza adjusts to his new body, though Vegeta seems to be putting forth much more effort than his ex-boss.

Back at Freeza’s ship, Towa floats opposite Trunks, who has finally managed to track her down. The two banter back and forth briefly before Towa uses her staff to implant a crystal on the forehead of Ginyu’s body, which still has the soul of a frog inside. Trunks tells the player to take care of the situation while he handles Towa, but as the battle drags on, Ginyu’s body begins to grow in size. Once the player manages to defeat the creature, Towa appears disappointed that her experiments failed yet again, but will be happy to try again the next time she plays with them all… Trunks gets frustrated that the woman keeps escaping them. Everyone heads back toward the time machine just as Goku’s time in the healing chamber comes to an end. The Saiyan busts out from the machine and out the roof of the ship. He takes a brief moment to get his bearings and sense where the fight with Freeza is taking place and then heads off at top speed. He arrives just in time to witness Freeza attempting to finish off the battered Vegeta, who is laying on the ground with his pride and his hope shattered.

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TMQ2 NOTE: The submarine is just like the only in the RRA Arc, I have no idea if it is Trunks' or Roshi's though. Probably not important. lol Also, the Pirate Cave they travel to is the same one where Goku faught Blue. I guess it didn't collapse in this timeline, or at least not as bad as was implied?

TMQ3 NOTE: No notice of how far they jump into the future is made, though I would assume it was only to later that night. That, and well, Bardock was still there making preparations to brainwash Oozaru Gohan. I doubt he waited there for days, weeks, or months. lol Also, I find it interesting that Gohan is an Oozaru, but Bardock isn't. Seems his mask blocks Bruits Waves.

TMQ5 NOTE: Apparently Vegeta killed Kyui in this timline, but didn't explode his body. Towa says she found him dead, but you can't find a dead body person if they were blown to bits.

TMQ6 NOTE: Apparently Trunks is too dense to realize that Bardock has the exact same freaking hair as Goku. He seems to know everything about history, but not about Bardock being Goku's father...or even who Bardock is, as he never once connects the dots.

TMQ7 NOTE: This one doesn't come from first hand experience, and there are no videos of it with the cutscenes, so I'm working off of word of mouth since I'm not the required level to play it. If there are any changes, I'll let you know, and I'll send you updates when future TMQs are released, if you want. #8 should be out sometime soon, the developers were working on it last month and posting images on facebook. Super Saiyan Goku is next!
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Re: The History of Ever

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:23 pm

OK, so I did some research, and Ultimate Dungeon 4 & 5 don't seem to contain anything special. I was said that UD5 contains some Freeza Army Bosses, nothing special, or anyone familiar from the manga.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The History of Ever

Post by DNA » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:08 pm

This is absolutely beautiful, puts to shame everything I've been working with lately (I have a secret in-universe website project, but after this I'm not sure if it's even worth continuing). An amazing read so far, I've just reached about the beginning of the series.

I found a few mistakes so far:
Herms wrote:--DBZ Movie 9: Bojack, a survivor of the “Hera Clan”, rampages throughout the four galaxies.
What about his guys?
Herms wrote:AGE 556
--DB Episode 149: Uranai Baby has her last cold for the next 200 years.
Uranai Baba.
Herms wrote:AGE 650
The Tenkaichi Budokai is founded
--The Tenkaichi Budokai [“Strongest-Under-the-Heavens Tournament”] is created to determine the world’s martial arts champion. It is held in a martial arts temple in South City, on Papaya Island. The date of the tournament is always May 7th, and for the next century it is held once every 5 years. There are two other such world championships, as well as the Olympics, but the Tenkaichi Budokai remains in a league of its own.
It's possible that the second tournament is some sort of wrestling/grappling, since Mr. Satan is apparently the world's best grappler.
Herms wrote:Roughly Age 703~712? (#700)
--On Planet Vegeta, the Saiyan Nappa is born.
It was still Planet Plant at this time.
Herms wrote:AGE 721
--On Earth, the martial artist Namu is born in a poor village in the western part of the world. He becomes a Buddhist, and hones his techniques while working as a farmer. Practicing his “Tenku-Pekeji-Ken” [Heavenly X-Mark Attack] leaves X-marks etched into the village fields, perplexing his fellow villages.
Fellow villagers.
Herms wrote:--Around the same time, King Vegeta takes a queen.
[Ref: From Daizenshuu 7. It’s based on backtracking from Prince Vegeta’s birth in 762. Saiyans don’t waste time, it seems.]
It's 732.

There's another mistake earlier than the first 556 but since I didn't make a note, I forgot, maybe someone else will notice it. I just reached the third post I'll see what else is there.
But from browsing the next few entries I noticed that you didn't list Elder Kaioshin's supposed date of death. He mentions that he only has "about a thousand years left to live" or something like that.

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Re: The History of Ever

Post by DNA » Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:20 pm

Basically finished the whole manga portion so these are the mistakes I found:
AGE 748
(...) Some later, Kame-sennin’s Sea Turtle goes out into the mountains to gather mushrooms and becomes lost.
Some time later.
September 10th, Age 749 (#TRA)
(...)From their nothing indicates a day passes until Chapter 29.
From there?

Between that one and the next entry you mention "puffer fish" and "blowfish". It should be either one of the other.

As for Movie 3, wouldn't it make more sense to put it in the day of the 22nd Budokai? After the Red Ribbon Army has been defeated and Tenshinhan and Chaozu have appeared?
AGE 753
[About DBO]
(...)they somehow get loose and multiple in the wild.
Multiply in the wild.
May 28th, Age 762
The anime shows Piccolo starting to train Gohan somewhat earlier than Goku when reaches Kaio’s, while in the anime they’re about the same time.
Than when Goku reaches.

Right after Movie 5 is mentioned:
(...)He modifies them primarily via organic parts, using infinite energy reactors as their power sources so that their energy never falls.(...)
Energy never fails.
May 7th, Age 767
Since Goku won the 23rd, this makes the (one Satan won the 24th(...)
Wild parenthesis appeared!
May 19th, Age 767
Vegeta entering the ROSAT is from Piccolo’s Chapter 390 explanation of the schedule.
You mean Trunks.
May 7th, Age 774
(...)Gohan faces Kibito in Match 4, but Spopvitch and Yamu(...)
Spopovitch

Edit: And just finished the rest of it:
AGE 781
[Ref: Date from Daizenshuu 7. Chapter 519 mentions Mo Kekko losing Boo.]
Mo Kekko losing to Boo.
AGE 785
Chapter 358 shows Cell as coming from 788, which Trunks says is 3 further into the future than he himself came.
3 years further. This mistake is repeated in both entries.
April 24th, Age 789
The Para-Para Brothers are able to go the Planet Llod and back without Goku and co. realizing they’re gone(...)
Able to go to the.
October 16th, Age 789
GT Episodes 25 has Bulma and Chi-Chi says that it’s been 9 months since Goku and co. left.
Bulma and Chi-Chi say.
December 18th, Age 789
(...)wishing to create a planet identical to the old Planet Tsufru (aka Planet Plant, aka Planet Vegeta), which he likewise calls Planet Tsufru.
I get where you're coming from but it still sounds weird to repeat Planet Tsufru twice in the same sentence. Might has well ignore Baby's actual phrasing of the wish and say he wished for a planet identical to Plant.
August 12th, Age 790
(...)opening a whole between Earth and Hell.
A hole.

You repeat Age 793 twice. Are these events on the same year?

On the GT Special, you put it on 890 and note there are irregularities. This in conjunction with the fact that when the special was made it was the end of the Baby Arc (they even show his demise at the beginning, maybe it would indeed be more logical that this is all in 789 instead.
AGE 975
Perhaps it’s also to explain why the human characters in the game aren't at home with the parents?
With their parents.

In Age 990's entry about Paella you mention the entry on 988, what was your reasoning to omit entry out? Perhaps because it states here that he aims to take over the world? He might have attacked Kinoko Rocks with other motives, maybe they were just a small gang with small motives.

Elder Kaioshin mentions that he only had about a thousand years to live when he passes his life force on to Goku. I believe this means that in a thousand years he will completely cease to exist. Anyway, that would be AGE 1774.

Well, I'm done. There might be stuff that I didn't notice.

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Re: The History of Ever

Post by t0ffe3m4n » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:18 pm

Sooo the events of Movie 7 took place before the events of Movie 6?

Interesting! :o

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Re: The History of Ever

Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:33 am

t0ffe3m4n wrote:Sooo the events of Movie 7 took place before the events of Movie 6?

Interesting! :o
Ehhh, it's the Dende-God thing that throws everything off. If you forget about that, it slides somewhere into the early Artificial Human stuff since Gohan has his long hair and the fact that Piccolo's inferior to Goku and Vegeta.
I can't get over how odd the decision to make Dende God in DBZ Movie 6 is. :|

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Re: The History of Ever

Post by Kaboom » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:24 am

DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:I can't get over how odd the decision to make Dende God in DBZ Movie 6 is. :|
Perhaps Toriyama already had that planned pretty far in advance, at least as far back as Piccolo and Kami re-merging, I'd suppose, and thus might have let Toei in on who would be Earth's new god. But without knowing the actual timing and circumstances (y'know, Cell and all that), they just kinda awkwardly plunked him in there.

Come to think of it, when was the movie released compared to when Dende got the job in the manga? Wouldn't that be pretty spoilery?
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Re: The History of Ever

Post by Fox666 » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:55 am

It was spoilery.

The 6th movie premiered in 07 March 1992. Chapter 362 (ジンジャータウンの決闘 "A Duel in Ginger Town") was released in 09 March 1992. Goku would only look for a new God in chapter 393 (19 October 1992).

Of course 07 March is the premiere time, the production started much earlier, probably even before Piccolo merged with Kami given it happened in chapter 360 and was first suggested by Kuririn in 355, about two months of difference at best.

That would explain why in Movie 6 Piccolo doesn't look anything special. Toriyama might already have told Toei that Dende would became the new God, but they had no idea that it was because Kami-sama merged with Piccolo or anything.

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Re: The History of Ever

Post by Insertclevername » Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:00 pm

May 28th, Age 762
The anime shows Piccolo starting to train Gohan somewhat earlier than Goku when reaches Kaio’s, while in the anime they’re about the same time.
Than when Goku reaches.

I think he was trying to compare the manga and anime but ended up saying anime twice
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