Funimation is not an animation studio. It's best to leave production to professionals, not second-hand salesmen.
Not to mention it would make the people who worship Funimation even more insufferable.
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Re: Sabat & Cook answering to idea of USA exclusive Kai Buu
Don't forget they said Majin Boo's arc was just filler.penguintruth wrote:Funimation is not an animation studio. It's best to leave production to professionals, not second-hand salesmen.
Not to mention it would make the people who worship Funimation even more insufferable.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x-qRNsEE54
Edit: Hah, they said that roughly around 11mins.
Playing Super Boo pissed off clip after what they said should be fun.
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Re: Sabat & Cook answering to idea of USA exclusive Kai Buu
bkev wrote:^The Dragon Box says hi.KingofWisdom wrote:They can't even give DBZ a proper release, so I'd be pretty nervous about them handling the editing too.
Well in a way they haven't. Not a release targeted to one side of the fanbase. But a release two both sides whether you perfer the original or dub more.
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And therein lies a business decision on FUNimation's part that was either very wise or very unwise depending on your point of view. It's wise in the sense that it has given them a reason to re-release their most financially successful property multiple times, but unwise in the sense that it divided an already divided fandom.Gotham22 wrote:bkev wrote:^The Dragon Box says hi.KingofWisdom wrote:They can't even give DBZ a proper release, so I'd be pretty nervous about them handling the editing too.
Well in a way they haven't. Not a release targeted to one side of the fanbase. But a release two both sides whether you perfer the original or dub more.
A "rather haggard" translation of a line from Future Gohan in DBZ, provided to FUNimation by Toei:
"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."
"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."
Re: Sabat & Cook answering to idea of USA exclusive Kai Buu
Honestly they should redub the Buu Saga from Z for a more accurate dub and to make it fit with Kai. No editing, just dubbing.
And while not saying the Kai's uncut on the DVDs and Blu-ray was a mistake, I can see FUNi assuming that any Anime fan would know like it went without saying. I thought that too before coming here. But apparently, they overestimated what some fans knew and didn't.
And while not saying the Kai's uncut on the DVDs and Blu-ray was a mistake, I can see FUNi assuming that any Anime fan would know like it went without saying. I thought that too before coming here. But apparently, they overestimated what some fans knew and didn't.
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Re: Sabat & Cook answering to idea of USA exclusive Kai Buu
If they did this, shouldn't they do the same with DB, GT & all the movies & specials, Garlick Jr. arc, and the rest of the fillers? DBZ & DBKai are 2 different series. Yes, Kai contains DBZ material, but they are still 2 different series. Boo arc does NOT belong to DBKai.matt0044 wrote:Honestly they should redub the Buu Saga from Z for a more accurate dub and to make it fit with Kai. No editing, just dubbing.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Re: Sabat & Cook answering to idea of USA exclusive Kai Buu
Nah, Buu Saga actually has basis in the Manga filler or none.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:If they did this, shouldn't they do the same with DB, GT & all the movies & specials, Garlick Jr. arc, and the rest of the fillers? DBZ & DBKai are 2 different series. Yes, Kai contains DBZ material, but they are still 2 different series. Boo arc does NOT belong to DBKai.matt0044 wrote:Honestly they should redub the Buu Saga from Z for a more accurate dub and to make it fit with Kai. No editing, just dubbing.
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Re: Sabat & Cook answering to idea of USA exclusive Kai Buu
The original Dragon Ball is also manga material, but it wasn't included in Kai.matt0044 wrote:Nah, Buu Saga actually has basis in the Manga filler or none.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Sabat & Cook answering to idea of USA exclusive Kai Buu
They did include the original Dragon Ball series in Kai, but as a 10min recap or so.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The original Dragon Ball is also manga material, but it wasn't included in Kai.
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Re: Sabat & Cook answering to idea of USA exclusive Kai Buu
The recap was 1:32 long.dbboxkaifan wrote:They did include the original Dragon Ball series in Kai, but as a 10min recap or so.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Sabat & Cook answering to idea of USA exclusive Kai Buu
Oh, then I wonder what I was thinking about the 10min-thing.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The recap was 1:32 long.dbboxkaifan wrote:They did include the original Dragon Ball series in Kai, but as a 10min recap or so.
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And Kai having the recap doesn't mean that Dragon Ball is part of Kai. If we go by this, DBZ episode 50 includes DBZ episode 49 because it has a recap of the episode. And by this logic, when we are watching an episode we are actually watching two episodes. 
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Sabat & Cook answering to idea of USA exclusive Kai Buu
FUNimation should just re-dub the Boo arc, like they did with the first Dragon Ball movie (albeit, based on their original, poorly-translated dub).
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And it's not exactly all-inclusive.dbboxkaifan wrote:Oh, then I wonder what I was thinking about the 10min-thing.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The recap was 1:32 long.dbboxkaifan wrote:They did include the original Dragon Ball series in Kai, but as a 10min recap or so.
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Re: Sabat & Cook answering to idea of USA exclusive Kai Buu
This movie was redubed because it was edited like hell before, they even removed scenes from the movie & replaced them with scenes of episodes of the series.Piccolo Daimao wrote:FUNimation should just re-dub the Boo arc, like they did with the first Dragon Ball movie (albeit, based on their original, poorly-translated dub).
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Yeah but this time from scratch with little dub lines and whatnot.Piccolo Daimao wrote:FUNimation should just re-dub the Boo arc, like they did with the first Dragon Ball movie (albeit, based on their original, poorly-translated dub).
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Re: Sabat & Cook answering to idea of USA exclusive Kai Buu
I know I've criticized FUNi's Shin-chan before but it's sort of relative to this.
FUNimation did somewhat do their own anime show, based on Shin-chan which they transformed into an American cartoon series type by only using:
I don't think anyone would want a lousy Majin Boo Kai arc produced-ish by FUNimation.
Dragon Ball Z Kai (Dragon Ball Kai) ended with Cell's arc and everyone just has to accept the fact. To continue Boo's arc watch it on Dragon Box / Orange Bricks or read the manga.
Btw, it's good to see the English audience has been introduced to another series than Dragon Ball Z, regardless of the many changes FUNimation did. =)
FUNimation did somewhat do their own anime show, based on Shin-chan which they transformed into an American cartoon series type by only using:
- Characters' names were changed from Japanese to Western names
- US references
- Cutting off the A/B/C episode parts
- Bringing up Hima-chan way too early
- Much later episodes are brought up too early
- Episodes are in an inconsistent order
- They only call Shinnosuke by "Shin"
- Went from a child/family anime series to adult theme
- No original Japanese cards
- The DVD version doesn't even feature Japanese audio with English subs, or English dubtitles for the English dub
I don't think anyone would want a lousy Majin Boo Kai arc produced-ish by FUNimation.
Dragon Ball Z Kai (Dragon Ball Kai) ended with Cell's arc and everyone just has to accept the fact. To continue Boo's arc watch it on Dragon Box / Orange Bricks or read the manga.
Btw, it's good to see the English audience has been introduced to another series than Dragon Ball Z, regardless of the many changes FUNimation did. =)
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Re: Sabat & Cook answering to idea of USA exclusive Kai Buu
How much content would there actually need to be cut out and added in for a Majin Buu Kai arc to be even possible anyway?
I'm guessing quite a lot.
I'm guessing quite a lot.
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Re: Sabat & Cook answering to idea of USA exclusive Kai Buu
I'm doing my own cut of the arc and there's a lot you could cut. Much of it is waiting around / useless scenes like the behind-the-scenes antics at the Tenkaichi and Dabura's heightening-ki filler and Heaven bits. Those can be seemlessly cut, and I'm doing it with Windows Live Movie Maker and no budget so it's definitely possible with a real studio at the helm.Gonstead wrote:How much content would there actually need to be cut out and added in for a Majin Buu Kai arc to be even possible anyway?
I'm guessing quite a lot.
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Re: Sabat & Cook answering to idea of USA exclusive Kai Buu
Well we could always start a Kickstarter for Buu Saga KAI.
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