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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:33 pm

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Majin Steve wrote:I dunno a new series that doesn't focus on the main cast sort of defeats the point here. What are we talking? Bulma, Videl, Roshi, Baba or what? If it was just like Dragon Ball Online that'd just seem to be really generic stuff with the DBZ label slapped on it. The whole point of Dragon Ball is those core characters, that cast.

I doubt we'll get a new series anyway and I wouldn't really want one.
I'm talking everyone: Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo, etc. Master Roshi can make a cameo since he is immortal but I was thinking a show about the newer generation. Everyone is long dead. They could make a DBO anime.
But then it wouldn't be Dragon Ball. It'd be like those awful sequel series they make to Beyblade and the like. It would wear the cloak and boots of Dragon Ball, with its senzu bean growth or scattered Dragon Balls but it would be hollow.
Dragon Ball isn't all about these characters. The lore and story has a lot going for it too. If my idea sucks then why is Dragon Ball Online a success? Its essentially the same idea. Yugioh GX is about the later generation and I like that series almost as much as the original. You don't need Goku to have a successful series. You just need a good story, good characters, flashy combat and humor. Thats what Dragon Ball is.
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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by Majin Steve » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:39 pm

Umm Dragon Ball Online is only popular with anime fans. Narrowed to Dragon Ball fans. Narrowed to Dragon Ball fans who live in Korea, Taiwan, or Hong Kong where it has been released for 2 years now with no apparent news of further releases.

I would like to play it sure, but an anime? No way, this can't replace Dragon Ball. People wouldn't accept it as such anyway.

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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:42 pm

Majin Steve wrote:Umm Dragon Ball Online is only popular with anime fans. Narrowed to Dragon Ball fans. Narrowed to Dragon Ball fans who live in Korea, Taiwan, or Hong Kong where it has been released for 2 years now with no apparent news of further releases.

I would like to play it sure, but an anime? No way, this can't replace Dragon Ball. People wouldn't accept it as such anyway.
Toriyama was behind it and it seems like a pretty solid new series. I'd watch it if done correctly.
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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by Gonstead » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:45 pm

I'd love to see a Dragon Ball version of Yu-Gi-Oh's Bonds Beyond Time.

Heck, I'd just about love a series of shorts of the daily lives of the main characters, kinda like Lucky Star.
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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by Scarz » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:51 pm

I feel that at this point I would watch anything DB related no matter how good or how bad it is. I'm that desperate for a new series.

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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by CaBrPi » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:53 pm

I still want a sitcom starring Mr. Satan and Mr. Boo. You could call it Leave It to Satan.

Or a little sort of pseudo-anthology series, with various plotlines centering around Gohan returning to High School after Boo, Mr. Satan and Mr. Boo (again lol), Future Trunks, Oob...

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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by penguintruth » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:54 pm

We don't need more Dragon Ball. We have enough Dragon Ball.

But I'm sure the annual horrible video game tradition will continue.
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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:55 pm

For a new series, I'd rather have something based around DBO with a new cast and based on a lot of that back-storyline, or something that explored the characters in a deeper level than ever done before, jumping around the timeline to various places to give us stories about characters that we never would have known otherwise.
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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by Majin Steve » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:56 pm

I wish they'd make more nice RPG-y handheld games like The Legacy of Goku-Buu's Fury.

People eat that up. But now all they seem to do is produce those supersonic fight after fight games.

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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:58 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:For a new series, I'd rather have something based around DBO with a new cast and based on a lot of that back-storyline, or something that explored the characters in a deeper level than ever done before, jumping around the timeline to various places to give us stories about characters that we never would have known otherwise.
Exactly. Thats the only route they can take with a new series besides a clusterfucked of Dragon Ball heroes series IMO. Dragon Ball Heroes has some good ideas I'm sure but they also have highly improbable things in the series such as SSJ3 Mirai Trunks.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:02 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Exactly. Thats the only route they can take with a new series besides a clusterfucked of Dragon Ball heroes series IMO. Dragon Ball Heroes has some good ideas I'm sure but they also have highly improbable things in the series such as SSJ3 Mirai Trunks.
Oh lord. That's actually the very last thing I want, and is probably the most likely, is a DB Heroes anime series. Just make a crossover with Yu-Gi-Oh! and get it over with.

Now, the game, I'm sure is fun. It looks it. But there's no real story there to intrigue me.
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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by DoomieDoomie911 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:23 pm

I honestly don't feel the need for a sequel. I think the series is complete the way it is and should just be left alone. As for the chances for a sequel, they're pretty slim. And if we were to get a sequel, I would like to see the original cast (of the Japanese version).
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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by Daimakku » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:35 pm

Majin Steve wrote:Dragon Ball is done, and over. It will always be popular with those who grew up with it or were introduced to it later. This is how things are now, we don't get series or a movie ever year for a franchise whose main body is no longer functioning.
Popular franchises like Dragonball, which is known all over the world, do not die this easily. They know there is still money in this franchise. It'll eventually get either remade with some retcons made (like Goku being recognized as a saiyan from the very beginning instead of just some strange mountain kid) or it'll get rebooted. It might not be 5 years from now, or 10, but eventually it will. This is how the entertainment industry works. They won't let big things alone if they know they can squeeze more money from it.

I'm just glad Toei hasn't raped Dragonball as much as an american company would. If Dragonball was a western property, you can bet the franchise would still be active today, with either a ridiculous number of super saiyan levels, some crazy mix of fused character or would have been rebooted like 3 times already. And wouldn't let go until people weren't interested in the crap they were spewing anymore, at which case it would be cancelled without any proper ending. Happens all the time.

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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:38 pm

I doubt we will ever get a sequel to GT since the show was consider to be a failure. I think something new and different is fine depending how it's done. I hated GX because the characters are paper thin and forgettable. They can do a new show, but still have the old characters.
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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by DBZ Mick » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:44 pm

Where else could you take the story after GT anyway? Guess you could reboot and make it about Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr...
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:55 pm

Some people will like to see a story that it set before the 100 year time skip. I think Vegeta and the others were likely still projecting the planet before Hero's Legacy happen. I rather have a new story instead of a sequel to GT. I doubt a sequel to GT would do well given how unpopular GT is in Japan.
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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by DBZ Mick » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:59 pm

I'd prefer something new myself because while I like GT, the story was already stretched to it's limits by then (but then I think the same about the Aritifical Humans arc onwards of Z/Kai/Manga).
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

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Post by SilverPlaqueVII » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:43 pm

DBZ Mick wrote:I'd prefer something new myself because while I like GT, the story was already stretched to it's limits by then (but then I think the same about the Aritifical Humans arc onwards of Z/Kai/Manga).
Second.
Scarz wrote:Calling it now: Dragon Ball Heroes Anime.

It would be like Yu-gi-oh but instead of card games, you get power levels and card games.
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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by bjh13 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:53 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I doubt a sequel to GT would do well given how unpopular GT is in Japan.
I see you say this a lot in various threads, but is it really that unpopular in Japan? They released DB Heroes stuff based on GT, and it's been incorporated in various games, along with a bunch of figures released. I know the show was cancelled due to low ratings, hardly surprising considering how saturated the market was at the time and it had been running for over a decade, combined with the fairly uninspired storytelling, but you bring this up all the time as though GT is the black plague of Dragon Ball in Japan. Are there any recent numbers to back up exactly how popular it is or is not in Japan?

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Re: Future of Dragonball

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:57 pm

Going from what I've been told over the past decade that GT is not very popular in Japan at all. DB and DBZ are much popular since more people grew up with them and there is more merchandise of those two shows. I don't think GT being in heroes is enough to say that GT is popular. I don't think most older fans really care about the video games.
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