Signs of Goku's Saiyan Heritage

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Re: Signs of Goku's Saiyan Heritage

Post by 90sDBZ » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:42 pm

I'd say he acted very Saiyan in the King Piccolo saga when he killed Tambourine in cold blood and said he deserved it. And I'm pretty sure he'd have killed King Piccolo in cold blood if he'd had the chance too. He was one cold-blooded badass back then.

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Re: Signs of Goku's Saiyan Heritage

Post by Saiga » Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:46 pm

He DID kill Daimao in cold blood.
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Post by ABED » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:53 pm

Define cold blooded because Goku was completely justified and in the right to kill Piccolo and his minions.
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Re: Signs of Goku's Saiyan Heritage

Post by Saiga » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:56 pm

Killing someone without being emotionally effected by it. It doesn't mean not being justified or anything.
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Re: Signs of Goku's Saiyan Heritage

Post by 90sDBZ » Thu May 02, 2013 12:48 pm

Saiga wrote:He DID kill Daimao in cold blood.
I'm not sure if that really counts as cold blood though. Cold blood means killing someone who is no immediate threat to you but Goku's life was clearly in danger. It was basically kill or be killed though I have no doubt he would have killed him even if he wasn't still a threat.

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Re: Signs of Goku's Saiyan Heritage

Post by Saiga » Fri May 03, 2013 3:43 am

Ah, does it? I thought it meant intentionally killing someone when you're not blinded by emotion.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri May 03, 2013 11:07 am

I don't know about you guys but I definitely think Goku and Piccolo killed Raditz in cold-blood. All he wanted was to reunite with his little bro but Goku just rejects him. I mean, what did he do that was so wrong? :(
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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Re: Signs of Goku's Saiyan Heritage

Post by SSJJezter » Fri May 03, 2013 11:37 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:I don't know about you guys but I definitely think Goku and Piccolo killed Raditz in cold-blood. All he wanted was to reunite with his little bro but Goku just rejects him. I mean, what did he do that was so wrong? :(
Oh, you know, only kidnapped Goku's son to try and force Goku into destroying the whole planet, killing everyone on it, including all of his loved ones. Just the usual... ;)

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Post by rereboy » Fri May 03, 2013 11:43 am

Saiga wrote:Ah, does it? I thought it meant intentionally killing someone when you're not blinded by emotion.
No, it generally means to kill without really having to. Piccolo Daimao was about to kill Goku, so Goku's killing blow wasn't in cold blood. Its almost the same difference as in between killing in self defense (or in war) and simple murder.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri May 03, 2013 11:52 am

SSJJezter wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:I don't know about you guys but I definitely think Goku and Piccolo killed Raditz in cold-blood. All he wanted was to reunite with his little bro but Goku just rejects him. I mean, what did he do that was so wrong? :(
Oh, you know, only kidnapped Goku's son to try and force Goku into destroying the whole planet, killing everyone on it, including all of his loved ones. Just the usual... ;)
Wasn't that after Goku told him to get lost and that they weren't related without second thoughts (he even threatens to beat him up if wanting to meet his nephew)? Raditz only told him to kill a bunch of people and show it to him if he wants his son alive. Not blow up the planet.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Signs of Goku's Saiyan Heritage

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri May 03, 2013 11:55 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
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DBZAOTA482 wrote:I don't know about you guys but I definitely think Goku and Piccolo killed Raditz in cold-blood. All he wanted was to reunite with his little bro but Goku just rejects him. I mean, what did he do that was so wrong? :(
Oh, you know, only kidnapped Goku's son to try and force Goku into destroying the whole planet, killing everyone on it, including all of his loved ones. Just the usual... ;)
Wasn't that after Goku told him to get lost and that they weren't related without second thoughts? Raditz only told him to kill a bunch of people and show it to him if he wants his son alive. Not blow up the planet.
The first thing that Raditz did was get mad at Goku for not killing all of the Earthlings. And then he knocked Krillin through a house. All this was before Goku told him to get lost.
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Re: Signs of Goku's Saiyan Heritage

Post by SSJJezter » Fri May 03, 2013 12:30 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
SSJJezter wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:I don't know about you guys but I definitely think Goku and Piccolo killed Raditz in cold-blood. All he wanted was to reunite with his little bro but Goku just rejects him. I mean, what did he do that was so wrong? :(
Oh, you know, only kidnapped Goku's son to try and force Goku into destroying the whole planet, killing everyone on it, including all of his loved ones. Just the usual... ;)
Wasn't that after Goku told him to get lost and that they weren't related without second thoughts (he even threatens to beat him up if wanting to meet his nephew)? Raditz only told him to kill a bunch of people and show it to him if he wants his son alive. Not blow up the planet.
Okay, wiping out all life on the planet, not destroy, but same point.

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