Kai Moments vs. Z Moments

[ABED]

I didn't need a video to tell me what it is, I was fishing for an example.

[KentalSSJ6]

For the most part, the Kai moments are superior. I will agree thoughthe dubbing during the Kamehameha struggle between Gohan and Cell was better in Z. The music in Kai during Cell's death was really underwhelming...thought thats maybe because I absolutely love the Ginyu Transformation theme to death and want it used in every scene . To be honest that was pretty much my only scene I preferred in Z.

Think youd all like this, Kai version of Cell's death but to the good old Faulconer soundtrack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl6trkyA1EA

[KingofWisdom]

Kai had some good use of insert songs. I thought the Ginyu Force arrival was made all the more awesome by Sanjō!! Ginyū-Tokusentai!!, as was Vegeta's bravado towards Freeza with Saiyan Blood. There was also Over the Star, a very touching song that nearly brought me to tears after Vegeta left Earth.

I can't think of any particular moments currently where I prefer Z to Kai (in the English dub). However, it should be interesting to see how Goku's Super Saiyan 3 transformation against Boo turns out. There aren't many tracks I like from the FUNimation re-score, but Super Saiyan 3 Ascension is a great one that I still like to listen to from time to time.

[Storm]

One moment that sticks out to me particularly was the tail end of Vegeta vs. 18. In DBZ (see here), Vegeta yells nandato?! with this great echo, and in Kai it's just a more usual line reading of it. There's also a brilliant use of music (unreleased! ) at three minutes in, showing this real intense, somber scene as Vegeta watches 18 approach him. In Kai, the Yamamoto placement was just another use of the Braveheart The Strong, and the Kikuchi placement is a good song, but not quite the tragic sound in the DBZ cut.

I'm not very familiar with English Kai so I can't comment on much but I'm pretty sure almost anything out of Kai I'd prefer to DBZ in terms of writing and acting.

[Jackal puFF]

Ah I forgot to mention this. I didn't really seem to fond of 16's voice this time around in Kai.. The voice acting was great but I didn't like the dialogue he was given compared to Z. His speech in Z had more impact compared to Kai. But that's just me.

[qjz123]

One moment that I really liked in kai was Vegeta's speech to motivate Goku (In the english dub) after his Kaio-Ken X20 Kamehameha failed to injure Frieza. It was really well done.

[dbzfan7]

Vegeta getting his arm broken in Kai was just "Holy Shit". Sabat did that moment better than Horikawa did in Kai.

[some_weirdGuy]

Ah I forgot to mention this. I didn't really seem to fond of 16's voice this time around in Kai.. The voice acting was great but I didn't like the dialogue he was given compared to Z. His speech in Z had more impact compared to Kai. But that's just me.

Yeah, 16's one of my favourite characters and i gotta say, liked him better in Z than in Kai. I think his voice's manner was a little 'flatter'/more evenly measured in Z, (in a good way), and i suspect there was a slight metalic filter or maybe just the audio recording equipment, but something that gave his voice a slightly different quality that i found actually tied in well with who he was , but which wasn't present in the kai redub, making his voice sound more 'normal' or perhaps 'human'. At first when i heard his new voice i was wondering if it was the name actor or not cause of it.

I also think 16's death was actually really well done in the faulconer team score specifically, having his gentle theme still playing on after he died really seem to catch the emotion to me, esspecially right when the light fades away on his computer chip.

(faulconer score) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFPmUc34JNk
(original score) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0-u0OQu2Y4

In the original score it's silent, and that had it's own emphasis, but the gentle 16 music of the faulconer score gave this sense of peaceful sadness, and despite 16 dying(forever), the theme continued, as if his 'spirit' still lingered - a melancholy memory of everything 16 was, still reaching out to gohan.

[ABED]

We know 16 is a robot, we don't need a robotic voice to tell us that, especially since every other Cyborg speaks normally.

[some_weirdGuy]

We know 16 is a robot, we don't need a robotic voice to tell us that, especially since every other Cyborg speaks normally.

He doesn't have a robotic voice in either dub, so i guess they agree.
If you were referring to when I said more 'human' or 'normal' though, then I'll clarify that I wasn't referring to any faint filter/recording fidelity/whatever it was. That 'normal' bit was in reference to the voice as a whole again, his tone and inflection in kai sounds more 'regular' in their ups and downs, while as i said his Z voice was presented in a slightly flatter way.

((to pull out another comparison, since there two lines are not changed much between z and kai:
kai - https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... 2WfE&t=157
DBZ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... LFqdc&t=69 ))

Though if you meant robot voice as in just it being flatter, then I guess I'll just have to disagree there I think the flatter voice fits, cause he's different to 17 and 18, so he contrasts well their banter and mannerisms with his more formal prose.

[ABED]

He sounds robotic in Z, but more natural in Kai. It's not just a matter of how flat his voice was but in his inflections. He should sound reserved but not robotic for the simple reason that it makes for a terrible performance. In Kai, he's still very different from 17 and 18, and his performance isn't ruined by trying to sound like a robot.