What's your favorite Super Saiyajin form?

[Zephyr]

"Super Saiyan" 4 and Super Saiyan God would be my favorites, simply because the means to achieve both forms is unconventional compared to the others.

[Sani007]

Super Saiyan - This is the original, and iconic.
Super Saiyan God - My new favourite. 'Don't judge by appearance.' This is so Dragon Ball style for me. (last form of Freeza, Cell, Buu)


Super Saiyan 4 - I hate it.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

And what I hate more about Super Saiyan 4 is that both Goku and Vegeta cheated to achieve their forms.

And black hair? Another thing i don't like. Everything about "Super" so far has been golden up until the latest forms.

SSG I do not even consider a form at all, since Goku gathered energy from the other Z fighters.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I think that Super Saiyan 3 is my favorite. Especially Super Saiyan 3 Goku.

SSG I do not even consider a form at all, since Goku gathered energy from the other Z fighters.

So, even though Goku's body transformed... it's not a transformation because it's triggered from others' powers? What?!

[TheGmGoken]

And what I hate more about Super Saiyan 4 is that both Goku and Vegeta cheated to achieve their forms.

Funny because Goku felt hat way he he got SSG. Toei doesn't know Goku's persona

[Gyt Kaliba]

And what I hate more about Super Saiyan 4 is that both Goku and Vegeta cheated to achieve their forms.

Er...Vegeta, definitely cheated, which is why I'm not as fond of him in the form (I'd probably be bothered by it less if A) there was more after that showing him training to attain the form on his own somehow, and/or B) He was used as more than fusion fodder for Goku), but how did Goku cheat to get the form?

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

I think that Super Saiyan 3 is my favorite. Especially Super Saiyan 3 Goku.

SSG I do not even consider a form at all, since Goku gathered energy from the other Z fighters.

So, even though Goku's body transformed... it's not a transformation because it's triggered from others' powers? What?!

Its mostly a red aura surrounding him. And his hair resembles base.

[Rocketman]

how did Goku cheat to get the form?

He had his tail pulled out.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Its mostly a red aura surrounding him. And his hair resembles base.

His hair are red, his eyes are bigger & red (with black inside), and his body is slimmer. Just because the shape of the hair doesn't change doesn't mean that it's not a transformation.

[Gyt Kaliba]

how did Goku cheat to get the form?

He had his tail pulled out.

Oh yeah...hmm. I guess I can see how that's cheating, but it was much less on his part than Vegeta's was. That and, when his tail was getting pulled out, it was originally just for the purpose of him getting back to full strength, something his child body just couldn't seem to handle without it. It wasn't meant to give him an all new form. On the flip side, Vegeta having blutz waves forced en masse into his body to trigger a transformation, just seems a lot cheaper IMO.

[TheGmGoken]

So, even though Goku's body transformed... it's not a transformation because it's triggered from others' powers? What?!

Kaioken isn't a transformation yet Goku's body transformed. SSG is the same deal.

his eyes are bigger & red (with black inside), and his body is slimmer. Just because the shape of the hair doesn't change doesn't mean that it's not a transformation.

His eyes are almost the same size. SSG's is slightly bigger. More or less an inconsistent art style. Kaioken body gets bigger but it's not a transformation.

A thorough or dramatic change in form or appearance.

[DynasticHunter]

He had his tail pulled out.

I wouldn't really call that cheating, his tail was still intact with his body.

[TheGmGoken]

He had his tail pulled out.

I wouldn't really call that cheating, his tail was still intact with his body.

Wasn't his tail removed permanently?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Kaioken isn't a transformation yet Goku's body transformed. SSG is the same deal.

Goku's body didn't transform when using Kaio-ken, he just got a red aura.

[TheGmGoken]

Kaioken isn't a transformation yet Goku's body transformed. SSG is the same deal.

Goku's body didn't transform when using Kaio-ken, he just got a red aura.

Exactly. His aura still went though a great change making his body to be all red. SSG isn't a transformation. More or less a power up.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

At least Kaioken's appearance was more of a change because Goku would bulk up after a little bit. Especially kaioken x3 when he fought Vegeta, he was almost as big as Beast Zarbon.

Kaioken isn't a transformation yet Goku's body transformed. SSG is the same deal.

Goku's body didn't transform when using Kaio-ken, he just got a red aura.

Exactly. His aura still went though a great change making his body to be all red. SSG isn't a transformation. More or less a power up.

And that brings back my point about Goku gathering energy would not change you. Except for just a power boost. Its not like he pulled anything from deep within, as logic would normally apply for an actual transformation.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Exactly. His aura still went though a great change making his body to be all red. SSG isn't a transformation. More or less a power up.

No, Goku's body just glowed red, it didn't literally changed colors. Super Saiyan God however did exactly the same alterations Super Saiyan did, except that it didn't make the hair stand up (both changed hair & eye color, altered the body, gave new aura). Super Saiyan God changes more things than Pseudo-Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan Grade 2, Super Saiyan Grade 3, Super Saiyan Full Power, Legendary Super Saiyan, and Super Saiyan 2 change.

[DynasticHunter]

He had his tail pulled out.

I wouldn't really call that cheating, his tail was still intact with his body.

Wasn't his tail removed permanently?

Maybe I'm missing something here but didn't Old Kaioshin pull his tail out? Its been a while since I have seen GT.

[TheGmGoken]

Exactly. His aura still went though a great change making his body to be all red. SSG isn't a transformation. More or less a power up.

No, Goku's body just glowed red, it didn't literally changed colors. Super Saiyan God however did exactly the same alterations Super Saiyan did, except that it didn't make the hair stand up (both changed hair & eye color, altered the body, gave new aura). Super Saiyan God changes more things than Pseudo-Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan Grade 2, Super Saiyan Grade 3, Super Saiyan Full Power, Legendary Super Saiyan, and Super Saiyan 2 change.

I said the aura made him red. I never said the form itself changed his colors. SSG didn't change much. Yes his hair color change and such. But his overall appearance stood the same. The DOG president could't even recognized Goku. I'm pretty sure he would know it was Goku had he saw him. SSG had extremely less changes than LSSJ.

Maybe I'm missing something here but didn't Old Kaioshin pull his tail out? Its been a while since I have seen GT.

Yes he pulled it out. But the former Kami removed it forever. I mean would't that remove it from his body.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Maybe I'm missing something here but didn't Old Kaioshin pull his tail out? Its been a while since I have seen GT.

Consider it a plothole, out of several that GT has. Goku did in fact permanently have his tail removed when he trained on Kami's lookout before the 23rd tournament. god knows how many years thats been in that gap between that moment and GT.