Biggest DB disappointment

[Chuquita]

Kai not getting reanimated like other series'. I.e Hunter X Hunter, FMA Brotherhood, etc.

Easily this.

The things I dislike about GT; that was different than Kai. GT already existed when I first got into DB. GT was static for me, but with Kai there was an actual waiting period of "what is this "Kai" series and will it be done completely from scratch?" that happened, so I had expectations for Kai that I didn't have for GT.

What additionally hurts is that Toei's completely reanimating Sailor Moon, which they wouldn't do for DB. I can't help but wonder if the decision to start Sailor Moon over from scratch was due to any backlash about how cheaply Kai was done. That it made them choose the more expensive route for SM when they saw doing a major franchise over on the cheap didn't work out that well.

[Rocketman]

Ultimate Battle 22.

I was raring for more DBZ games after Budokai 1, so when they (re?)released this turd, I ran out and bought it.

uggh

[Fionordequester]

Dragon Ball Z Kai not having as good of a musical score as the old FUNI dub did. You can say it's unfitting all you want, but at least you could feel the effort Team Faulconer put in there, from composing like, 200-300 songs (even if some of them were iffy), to actually having unique motifs for each character. With Yamamoto, even discounting the plagiarism...he was decent, but I don't feel like there was anything really unique or "outstanding" about him at all, unlike Akihito Tokunaga and Team Faulconer.

[Hellspawn28]

UT/UB was a letdown as well. It was bad enough that I spend $40 on that game and I wanted my money back after a week of playing the game. I hated the boss battles and the endless button mashing. RB2 was not good, but it was easy to play and I had fun with it. UB/UT made me want to rip my hair out. UB22 was the worst games that I've ever played, but I didn't pay for it like I did with UT/UB.

[KentalSSJ6]

Ultimate Battle 22.

I was raring for more DBZ games after Budokai 1, so when they (re?)released this turd, I ran out and bought it.

uggh

I feel you're pain. I fell for that too. Even with the Ultimate Battle 27 cheat, still wasn't enough.

[goku the krump dancer]

Burst Limit...

Even after the confirmation that it was only going up to Cell, I still had high hopes for the game.

Ultimate Battle 22.

I was raring for more DBZ games after Budokai 1, so when they (re?)released this turd, I ran out and bought it.

LOL same but unlike everybody else I like Ultimate Battle 22, sure its nothing to brag about but hey it was fun for me.

[Hellspawn28]

I found UB22 to be very dull and unplayable. The combat system is terrible and I remember the characters move slow as hell. I don't know why the game has a build up mode when there's no story mode, which makes the whole mode pointless.

[Kamiccolo9]

You are the seed of evil. How dare you mock the hero who saved us from Cell, Bojack, and Majin Boo.

*Wishes my post rank was now Seed of Evil...or Kamiccolo Disguise Spotter*

I'm really hoping you're not being serious about this...

[KentalSSJ6]

Just extending the fun Kamiccolo, dont worry.

[Codarik]

Kenji Yamamoto's music being deleted from Kai. Just when I finally got over Kai not being reanimated, that happened.

[penguintruth]

I frankly find it rather amusing that anyone was expecting Kai to be reanimated. We're talking about Toei here, guys.

Disappointment can only occur where expectations are. Kai turned out well enough for me. Or, at least it will be when it does the Buu arc. It does help to have standards, but with Toei, you learn to curb them slightly.

[Bejiita]

I don't like how Gohan loses the innocence in his eyes once he become mystic Gohan, his eyes go from his original Gokustyle eyes, to Vegeta's type and it just makes him look like a completely different person. I liked the way Gohan was while he was at high school, running from Videl, I dislike the permanent new look he gets after the power up, it'd be better if his eyes only went that way after powering up, but nope, he always looks like that from that episode onwards. I kept thinking, oh no, is that how Gohan is gonna look from now on? What did that purple prick do do him?! And he still didn't beat Buu?!

[KentalSSJ6]

I don't like how Gohan loses the innocence in his eyes once he become mystic Gohan, his eyes go from his original Gokustyle eyes, to Vegeta's type and it just makes him look like a completely different person. I liked the way Gohan was while he was at high school, running from Videl, I dislike the permanent new look he gets after the power up, it'd be better if his eyes only went that way after powering up, but nope, he always looks like that from that episode onwards. I kept thinking, oh no, is that how Gohan is gonna look from now on? What did that purple prick do do him?! And he still didn't beat Buu?!

Gohan had the sharp eyes because he was staring down the creature that killed his mother, future wife, and many of his friends. Id be disappointed if he didn't have that look. He knew he had the power to obliterate Buu and apart from the Cell saga, genuinely wanted to kill. I can't blame him even if I wanted to.

[rereboy]

I frankly find it rather amusing that anyone was expecting Kai to be reanimated. We're talking about Toei here, guys.

Why wouldn't we expect it? Personally, I had never heard of a anime or any show being "remade" Kai-style. Such a notion of a "remake" hadn't even entered my mind before I knew what Kai was and to this day I have trouble believing that a company chose that over a true remake...

Everyone who has seen Kai noticed how cheaply Toei has done their remake. Everyone knows that its just DBZ minus some filler, with some inferior redrawn scenes and with inferior audio. There's hardly any point to it at all and the only thing that distinguishes Kai from what someone with a video editor could do to DBZ is the new audio (which is inferior to the original) and the redrawn scenes (which are poorly made and worse than the original).

And, despite all this, it still sold.

Now imagine if they had actually made a true remake, reanimating everything. They would have made so much more... So, so much. The costs would have been bigger, but the profits would more than compensate that. And this assumption is hardly a stretch... Animes like Fullmetal Alchemist had proper remakes made shortly after the original series was done and they had no trouble with profits. Dragon Ball wouldn't either.

Instead they chose Kai, an half-assed product, and ruined the window of opportunity for a proper Dragon Ball remake for years, which makes them look very bad. To me that's not being cheap, which Toei is often called. Its being stupid. They chose agaisnt what would have made them more profit, which is just incomprehensible.

[thatdbzguy]

The fandom's general interpretation of Gohan's speech to Cell as "random pacifism".

The fandom in general.

Goku losing to Tenshinhan due to dumb luck.

No fight between Piccolo and Vegeta ever occurred.

The DBZ games nowadays being pretty sucky.

[Bejiita]

I don't like how Gohan loses the innocence in his eyes once he become mystic Gohan, his eyes go from his original Gokustyle eyes, to Vegeta's type and it just makes him look like a completely different person. I liked the way Gohan was while he was at high school, running from Videl, I dislike the permanent new look he gets after the power up, it'd be better if his eyes only went that way after powering up, but nope, he always looks like that from that episode onwards. I kept thinking, oh no, is that how Gohan is gonna look from now on? What did that purple prick do do him?! And he still didn't beat Buu?!

Gohan had the sharp eyes because he was staring down the creature that killed his mother, future wife, and many of his friends. Id be disappointed if he didn't have that look. He knew he had the power to obliterate Buu and apart from the Cell saga, genuinely wanted to kill. I can't blame him even if I wanted to.

I realise this, what I don't like is how he retains this 'look' even when he's not powered up, the eyes of a character are what defines them, it's unique to them, and this completely changes Gohan look, I can understand how they can change his eyes by transforming or powering up, but they stay that way permanently! Kind of a let down to me.

[KentalSSJ6]

You do know they fixed that in the last eps of Z right?

[cRookie_Monster]

My biggest let downs had to do with the credits screens at the end of the show.

I think the harshest I ever reacted to something *that I didn't expect already* was when I would would be watching the show on Toonami and see a scene where Funimation had gone in and changed the score from what we had sent them, especially cases where multiple pieces were playing at the same time, in different keys and tempos. I kinda freaked out.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I also share disappointment with the fandom at times, though it comes from slightly different places and in slightly different ways than how others feel probably.

Beyond that...I'd have to say the VizBigs, in retrospect anyway, and Dragon Ball Evolution. For the VizBigs, they are still the best way to get the manga right now IMO, but when I look back and forth between the Rurouni Kenshin ones (which I have all of) and the DB/Z ones (which I have only a few so far)...the Dragon Ball ones just seem so lazy. Whereas the Rurouni Kenshin ones come with detailed Japanese history notes in the back of each omnibus (stuff that somewhat ties in to the story), all of the color pages (I don't recall any being missing anyway), and two of the bonus post-series one-shots that Watsuki did for the series...the Dragon Ball ones just slap the singles into a bigger book, without even restoring all the color pages, and not giving any other cool extras (like the Kanzenban ending, or the one chapter of Neko Majin Z they'd translated, or something). It just feels so lackluster in comparision.

Oh, and DBE? I think that one speaks for itself, so I'll just say that before we got any trailers or anything, I'd actually had some small hopes that maybe, just maybe, we'd get a pretty cool movie...*sighs*

[Polyphase Avatron]

I agree with GT. I watched it on Toonami of course because I was a kid and didn't know any better, only later did I really appreciate how much it shit all over the original.