Why do fans hate/demonize Yamcha and Chi-Chi?

[thatdbzguy]

VEGETA gets shafted!?

Take deep breaths, RandomGuy.

Deep breaths.

[RandomGuy96]

I just don't get it. Who gets a better deal than him after he stops being a villain?

[Kid Buu]

Yamcha is basically out of commission before the real fight begins in the Saiyan and Androids arc. I'm surprised Toriyama let him fight a Cell Jr instead of being knocked out by collateral damage when Cell blew up the ring.

[DBZAOTA482]

I just don't get it. Who gets a better deal than him after he stops being a villain?

Goku. He caught on to the harsh reality that you have to constantly suck Goku's dick unconditionally or else you're a terrible person. He was humbled by Goku.

[RandomGuy96]

I just don't get it. Who gets a better deal than him after he stops being a villain?

Goku. He caught on to the harsh reality that you have to constantly suck Goku's dick unconditionally or else you're a terrible person. He was humbled by Goku.

...not really. Vegeta saves the day more often, gets many more solo victories (at least 6 vs at max 4), and is just as involved in Cell and Buu's defeats as Goku is.

But I think Gohan does more than either of them, and for extra points never causes any of the villains.

[DBZAOTA482]

I just don't get it. Who gets a better deal than him after he stops being a villain?

Goku. He caught on to the harsh reality that you have to constantly suck Goku's dick unconditionally or else you're a terrible person. He was humbled by Goku.

...not really. Vegeta saves the day more often, gets many more solo victories (at least 6 vs at max 4), and is just as involved in Cell and Buu's defeats as Goku is.

But I think Gohan does more than either of them, and for extra points never causes any of the villains.

But most of those solo victories were from little minions, and Vegeta's punished more often for his bad decisions than Goku is even for doing the same thing.

[RandomGuy96]

"Little minions"? I think Cui/Dodoria/Zarbon/19/etc. have more plot relevance than anyone Goku beat alone except Nappa. Goku only beat Nappa, Recoome, Burter, and Yakon. Vegeta got Cui. Appule, Dodoria, Zarbon, Jeice, 19, Pui Pui... and those are just solo kills. Gohan has the best solo victory count in Z, but people usually don't care because despite being really powerful and at least as relevant in the grand scheme as most of Freeza's henchmen, if not more so, the Cell Juniors only were around for 5 minutes and didn't have unique names or designs.

[Vice]

"Little minions"? I think Cui/Dodoria/Zarbon/19/etc. have more plot relevance than anyone Goku beat alone except Nappa. Goku only beat Nappa, Recoome, Burter, and Yakon. Vegeta got Cui. Appule, Dodoria, Zarbon, Jeice, 19, Pui Pui... and those are just solo kills. Gohan has the best solo victory count in Z, but people usually don't care because despite being really powerful and at least as relevant in the grand scheme as most of Freeza's henchmen, if not more so, the Cell Juniors only were around for 5 minutes and didn't have unique names or designs.

Yes, Cui, Appule, Dodoria, Zarbon, 19, and Pui-Pui are all insignificant small fry.

If Zarbon is the most plot relevant guy you've beaten, then yes, you've gotten the shaft.

[DBZAOTA482]

"Little minions"? I think Cui/Dodoria/Zarbon/19/etc. have more plot relevance than anyone Goku beat alone except Nappa. Goku only beat Nappa, Recoome, Burter, and Yakon. Vegeta got Cui. Appule, Dodoria, Zarbon, Jeice, 19, Pui Pui... and those are just solo kills. Gohan has the best solo victory count in Z, but people usually don't care because despite being really powerful and at least as relevant in the grand scheme as most of Freeza's henchmen, if not more so, the Cell Juniors only were around for 5 minutes and didn't have unique names or designs.

I'll give Dodoria, and Zarbon but Cui and Appule where pretty insignificant, and #19 and Jeice could have been beaten by Goku himself.

[damn]

Hello...I'm new here this is my first post

I think it's mostly Z Fanboys who "demonize" Yamcha...cuz Z Fanboys thinks that simply being strong makes for a good character
These are the same people that think Post-Freeza Saga Vegeta is Cool
Vegeta gets pussified after the Freeza Saga...and simply turns good for some reason that AT never explained
Onto the pussification...he gets his ass pwned by a Girl(well a Robot Girl but still),is dum-... er "proud" enough to let Cell level up to his final form for his ego and his sacrifice in the Buu Saga is useless...I don't know about you but I preferred Vegeta when he was evil...early Namek Vegeta is the best
The only reason for Vegeta even existing post Freeza-sage is Trunks...and that is pretty lame

But anyways let's not further stray off-topic ...back to Yamcha I think AT treated Yamcha pretty badly(he would do the same to all the Human Characters in Z later on) at first Yamcha was cool but AT never gave him any sort of character development...like for example like he did with Krillin and that's a damn shame cuz Yamcha is one of the most likeable characters in the franchise

People hate ChiChi cuz in DBZ she's annoying as fuck...bla bla bla "Gohan must do his homework...I don't care if the world gets destroyed"
Chichi was fine in Dragonball but what AT did to her in DBZ is just disgraceful

[Kid Buu]

Yamcha is a good singer too!

[ABED]

...not really. Vegeta saves the day more often, gets many more solo victories (at least 6 vs at max 4), and is just as involved in Cell and Buu's defeats as Goku is.

I'll give you Buu, but not Cell. Sure, Vegeta had a part in distracting him but without Goku's guidance, reassurance, and training, Gohan wouldn't have defeated Cell.

So basically you're saying:

Settling down to raise family = "OMG fighting is for fags"?

Here you are calling a fictional character is irrational but what you're saying isn't making a lick of sense.

First, no, that's not what I'm saying. Second, I would never be so crass. And finally, my issue wasn't her settling down.

[damn]

Yamcha is a good singer too!

Tuxedo Mask is the only good character in this terrible anime
The Sailor Scouts are so useless...especially Sailor Moon
He always has to throw one of his roses to save them lol...I always had to watch Sailor Moon cuz they showed DBZ after it lol
Every episode was the same lol...Sailor Scouts meet new person,new person turns out to be monster in disguise...Sailor Scouts transform for 10 minutes,Sailor Scouts get their ass handed to them,Tuxedo Mask or the White Version of him(can't remember the name) throws a flower at the villain,Sailor Moon does the Final Attack which takes 1 minute to charge up and finishes the villain
How can people like this crap ?

[ABED]

Yamcha is a good singer too!

Tuxedo Mask is the only good character in this terrible anime
The Sailor Scouts are so useless...especially Sailor Moon
He always has to throw one of his roses to save them lol...I always had to watch Sailor Moon cuz they showed DBZ after it lol
Every episode was the same lol...Sailor Scouts meet new person,new person turns out to be monster in disguise...Sailor Scouts transform for 10 minutes,Sailor Scouts get their ass handed to them,Tuxedo Mask or the White Version of him(can't remember the name) throws a flower at the villain,Sailor Moon does the Final Attack which takes 1 minute to charge up and finishes the villain
How can people like this crap ?

every cartoon has its formulas.

[damn]

[/quote]every cartoon has its formulas.[/quote]
But none as repetitive as Sailor Moon
I suppose if the characters were actually good and interesting(like for example another Shojo called "Kamikaze Kaito Jeanne" comes to mind or Detective Conan(Case Closed)) I wouldn't mind but all of the characters in Sailor Moon are just boring...so yeah

[Kid Buu]

Agree to disagree, I think SM is hilarious. I watched it subbed all the time.

[ABED]

every cartoon has its formulas.

But none as repetitive as Sailor Moon
I suppose if the characters were actually good and interesting(like for example another Shojo called "Kamikaze Kaito Jeanne" comes to mind or Detective Conan(Case Closed)) I wouldn't mind but all of the characters in Sailor Moon are just boring...so yeah

80s cartoons were pretty darn repetitive.

[damn]

Agree to disagree, I think SM is hilarious. I watched it subbed all the time.

I think the only funny thing about SM was the awful english dub...Luna's voice for example is just WTF xD
Don't really remember SM being that funny apart from that

[ABED]

Agree to disagree, I think SM is hilarious. I watched it subbed all the time.

I think the only funny thing about SM was the awful english dub...Luna's voice for example is just WTF xD
Don't really remember SM being that funny apart from that

But yet you remember the characters names?

[damn]

[/quote]80s cartoons were pretty darn repetitive.[/quote]
Sailor Moon was from the 90s lol
Dragon Ball was from the 80s and it wasn't that repetitive